Hi all,

I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings on the World of Warcraft now that I have finally made a break from it. After four years of playing this game, I made the decision to leave the game and NEVER go back. I found myself kept getting pulled back to it every month or so, paying £8.99 and then getting bored after a couple of days. It was just a waste of money.

It wasn't just the money though. I got so fed up with the people in the game. The community just got worse and worse. Players were always bitching to each other about loot and it appeared to be a huge amount of jealousy if someone won an item and they didn't. Things like 'my gear is better then yours' and of course with the :P thing at the end. Which is a pile of rubbish. Why do people keep typing that :P thing in WOW these days.

Then of course there was the guild hoppers. They played a whole new game there! People hopping guilds every day just to get some items from some poor soul that has put loads of time into running the guild and doing the raids etc. It was a joke. What happened to the days when players use to work together and enjoyed the game? Not stabbed each other in the back just to win some crappy "epic"

The worse thing above all though was the achievement point system and the biggest joke of all is when players started to ask for these BEFORE you could join a raid. What's all that about? One player even had a ton of achievement points in a raid and still didn't know how to do a boss. Asking for these is a total waste of time.

On a closing note, just a quick thought for the next "big" online game that comes out. It will not stand a chance against the people that leave wow to play it. I can see the general whatever channel on the first day. It will be like 'Well in wow you can do this and that' or 'Will this game beat wow?'

For me the whole game has turned into this vile mess that isn't fun to play and has lost its entertainment value. Once that's gone, then its not worth playing. Would you watch a DvD you really didn't like? This post may have seem like a rant and maybe it is. I just wanted to give the people out there some food for thought.

Originally posted by dazaonline

Hi all,

 

I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings on the World of Warcraft now that I have finally made a break from it. After four years of playing this game, I made the decision to leave the game and NEVER go back. I found myself kept getting pulled back to it every month or so, paying £8.99 and then getting bored after a couple of days. It was just a waste of money.

 

It wasn't just the money though. I got so fed up with the people in the game. The community just got worse and worse. Players were always bitching to each other about loot and it appeared to be a huge amount of jealousy if someone won an item and they didn't. Things like 'my gear is better then yours' and of course with the :P thing at the end. Which is a pile of rubbish. Why do people keep typing that :P thing in WOW these days.

 

Then of course there was the guild hoppers. They played a whole new game there! People hopping guilds every day just to get some items from some poor soul that has put loads of time into running the guild and doing the raids etc. It was a joke. What happened to the days when players use to work together and enjoyed the game? Not stabbed each other in the back just to win some crappy "epic"

The worse thing above all though was the achievement point system and the biggest joke of all is when players started to ask for these BEFORE you could join a raid. What's all that about? One player even had a ton of achievement points in a raid and still didn't know how to do a boss. Asking for these is a total waste of time.

 

On a closing note, just a quick thought for the next "big" online game that comes out. It will not stand a chance against the people that leave wow to play it. I can see the general whatever channel on the first day. It will be like 'Well in wow you can do this and that' or 'Will this game beat wow?'

 

For me the whole game has turned into this vile mess that isn't fun to play and has lost its entertainment value. Once that's gone, then its not worth playing. Would you watch a DvD you really didn't like? This post may have seem like a rant and maybe it is. I just wanted to give the people out there some food for thought.

Ah so ya one of those people we can poke in the eye a few dozen times before you decide you dont like it, 4 years in the same game.... your burned out, community is what you make it and no different from any other mmo, have you gamed with all of the 11 million players? if no then your wrong to tar all players with the same brush.
 

BTW can I have you stuff?

Originally posted by coffee

Ah so ya one of those people we can poke in the eye a few dozen times before you decide you dont like it, 4 years in the same game.... your burned out, community is what you make it and no different from any other mmo, have you gamed with all of the 11 million players? if no then your wrong to tar all players with the same brush.
 

BTW can I have you stuff?

 After four years and how popular and strong this game is, should the community not be stronger and more solid? Its the people that bring this game down and will continue to do so. I know many people that use to play this game and when asked why they left, its all the same reason. The bad community.

Sure you can have my stuff. Oh wait you cant! It all got deleted with the character.

Anyway, I have wasted enough time on this game and this post. Like I said. Food for thought.

It sounds like the OP was incapable of finding a decent guild containing mature players.

That could have been for one of several reasons. E.g.

a) The OP was the only mature player on his entire server

or

b) The OP was incapable of finding the other mature players

or

c) The OP found the other mature players, and they decided they didn't want anything to do with him.

Originally posted by dazaonline

Originally posted by coffee

Ah so ya one of those people we can poke in the eye a few dozen times before you decide you dont like it, 4 years in the same game.... your burned out, community is what you make it and no different from any other mmo, have you gamed with all of the 11 million players? if no then your wrong to tar all players with the same brush.
 

BTW can I have you stuff?

 

 After four years and how popular and strong this game is, should the community not be stronger and more solid? Its the people that bring this game down and will continue to do so. I know many people that use to play this game and when asked why they left, its all the same reason. The bad community.

 

Sure you can have my stuff. Oh wait you cant! It all got deleted with the character.

 

Anyway, I have wasted enough time on this game and this post. Like I said. Food for thought.

Heh no the community isn't really bad. You apparently never got into a good guild. In the time I've played this game ive only seen people bitch about not getting an item a handfull of times and even then that was only because i was in a pug . Your simply just burnt out on the game. That much is clear. Your using the community as a scape goat.

Originally posted by Antipathy

It sounds like the OP was incapable of finding a decent guild containing mature players.

 

That could have been for one of several reasons. E.g.

 

a) The OP was the only mature player on his entire server

 

or

 

b) The OP was incapable of finding the other mature players

 

or

 

c) The OP found the other mature players, and they decided they didn't want anything to do with him.

I beg your pardon? I ran a successful guild right the way through the burning crusade expansion. The guild was made up of close friends. All of which left because of the bad community in the game. Other factors of course were - Blizzards mess up on the Black Temple and how early it was brought out and when they decided to drop the 40 man instances in the game. Don't forget the flock of burning crusade players. That was bad.

During Karazhan we let some players join the guild using the guild website etc. Most of them were to lazy to supply pots etc to the raids or couldn't be bothered to install the Ventrilo client when asked. Also guild "members" who couldn't even be bothered to tab out and read how a boss would work. All these people didn't last long in the guild. They were first to bang on the door when there was loot going though.

You can try to defend this game, but I'm right in what I say and I know people will agree with me. Most of them wont say anything though.

HUH  how original, a post bitching and whining about bitchers and whiners... QQ

I feel your pain. Im considering leaving WoW too here after 3 years of good times. Thanks for that Blizz.

My reasons are a bit different though. In my opinion the community is just fine. You find mature players at leasti in RP-servers where I play.

My reason is the game itself, not the people. I also hate the stupid and unnecessary achievement system. I guess you just need a change every once in a while, no matter how big the map of a game is.

In my guild its getting to a state where people are coming and going. Some veteran members just leave the game and new golddiggers join with their alts to get to raids. The feeling of a brotherhood has gone. That may of course be my guilds issue only.

EQ or EQ2 worth a shot for a PVE-junkie like me?

I agree man... I left a while back because they've changed the game from the core thing I played, it's not the game I want to play anymore "/

\       <-- WoW

 :P

On the topic of community, I can understnad where people think it is bad. I mean, just log in and look at trade chat for a few minutes. With that in mind though, spend a few minutes longer watching trade and you will see it is the same two or three people who are the most vocal and present the worst image of the "community". The more 'mature' players will tend to not be as vocal and therefore not be as noticable. You'll see them in guild, party, raid, or any number of more limited chat.

With such a large population, it's easy to feel like the community a a whole is degraded by these few people who seem to infest every server.

Now, don't get me wrong, good for you that you are moving on and hopefully you find something you enjoy as much as you orginially must have enjoyed WoW (to keep playing for 4 years).

Originally posted by mklinic

On the topic of community, I can understnad where people think it is bad. I mean, just log in and look at trade chat for a few minutes. With that in mind though, spend a few minutes longer watching trade and you will see it is the same two or three people who are the most vocal and present the worst image of the "community". The more 'mature' players will tend to not be as vocal and therefore not be as noticable. You'll see them in guild, party, raid, or any number of more limited chat.

With such a large population, it's easy to feel like the community a a whole is degraded by these few people who seem to infest every server.

Now, don't get me wrong, good for you that you are moving on and hopefully you find something you enjoy as much as you orginially must have enjoyed WoW (to keep playing for 4 years).

Good Point there mklinic and one I missed out on. I remember a guild member of ours was trying to sell an item in the trade channel only to be told to shut up by two people having a chat in there. Blizzard should have more control of it.

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Originally posted by dazaonline
I beg your pardon? I ran a successful guild right the way through the burning crusade expansion. The guild was made up of close friends. All of which left because of the bad community in the game.

During Karazhan we let some players join the guild using the guild website etc. Most of them were to lazy to supply pots etc to the raids or couldn't be bothered to install the Ventrilo client when asked. Also guild "members" who couldn't even be bothered to tab out and read how a boss would work. All these people didn't last long in the guild. They were first to bang on the door when there was loot going though.

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Couple of things made me chuckle there and in no particular order;

Firstly, were you not just moaning about how people were demanding achievements before letting you raid with them??? Yet you go on to list how you dropped members for not meeting your demands to raid??? Loved that one!

Secondly, loved the "successful guild" quote. How can you run a successful guild when everyone leaves? Especially when they leave with the excuse of "bad community"?

Hey, but since you are so right i must be wrong, oh well ;-)

Good guilds need to be picky about who they recruit. For example our guild requires an online application form and an in-game interview.

If you just let any person join, then you end up with the rejects that all the good guilds passed on. It sounds like that's what happened to the OP.

It seems the complaints do not change much, however the game changes.

I remember WOW was still in its first year and people were already upset about how its community turned out. Most were MMO veterans, so to speak. They just hated the Barrens chat, the ninja-looting, the failure to grasp what Greed and Need rolls stood for, or the general lack of Netiquette, if you will...

Meanwhile, I was surprised to see that most of my "newbie friends" were having a blast. They took the PUG misdemeanors as natural defects of human nature and did not dwell on them for long, even when they were annoyed. They didn't have a problem with the Barrens chat, the exceedingly often pop culture references, or the drunken late-night chitchat.... It was all new to them and they were even having fun, while the veteran grumpies (maybe even I included, for a while) were grumbling in small groups in a corner. :)

Though in the end, WOW had so many players that the people who were unhappy with the WOW community were a big crowd as well, and finding like-minded folk and forming guilds to their liking was not too hard for them.

I suspect your problem is simply WOW burnout. When a game stops feeling fresh and fun, annoyances with the community tend to stand out much more.

Originally posted by dazaonline

Originally posted by coffee

Ah so ya one of those people we can poke in the eye a few dozen times before you decide you dont like it, 4 years in the same game.... your burned out, community is what you make it and no different from any other mmo, have you gamed with all of the 11 million players? if no then your wrong to tar all players with the same brush.
 

BTW can I have you stuff?

 

 After four years and how popular and strong this game is, should the community not be stronger and more solid? Its the people that bring this game down and will continue to do so. I know many people that use to play this game and when asked why they left, its all the same reason. The bad community.

 

Sure you can have my stuff. Oh wait you cant! It all got deleted with the character.

 

Anyway, I have wasted enough time on this game and this post. Like I said. Food for thought.

I don't believe you that you deleted your character, and you WILL be back!

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Originally posted by Antipathy
Good guilds need to be picky about who they recruit. For example our guild requires an online application form and an in-game interview.
If you just let any person join, then you end up with the rejects that all the good guilds passed on. It sounds like that's what happened to the OP.

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This is of course all defined by your own opinion of what you consider to be a 'good guild' though isn't it?

Some raid guilds will put up with the odd asshole because he/she has the right experience or fills their role well in raids etc, which may make them a successful raid guild but does it make them a 'good' guild?

Personally i prefer the social aspects of the game and anyone is welcome to join our guild as long as they are over 16 years old and over L20. The 16yo restriction is because the conversations can get a little blue sometimes and the L20 at least shows a little commitment to the game. Within a couple of days, if not hours we can tell whether someone 'fits' or they decide themselves whether the guild is for them. It works for us and we maintain a 200+ membership, so to me that is a good guild, but at the end of the day it is each to their own.

the community has been brainless for years in wow!

trade chat ha i don't even know it exists just turn it off!

guildhoppers problem u can not fix except u join certain guilds that require a application on there homepage and a 2-4 weeks trial! There are not many guilds out there anymore that really play together and enjoy the game not just raid 24/7!

If you find one of those most of them play more then one game for example eq2 lotro and WoW you will be able to enjoy the game in a different way!

I have some sympathy for the OP.   Yes, there are mature, decent players in the game.   However, Wow has the absolute worst common chat I've seen in any MMO.    If I were a dev in that game for one day, I swear I'd be banning ppl by the hundreds.

Originally posted by jason_webb

 

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Originally posted by dazaonline
I beg your pardon? I ran a successful guild right the way through the burning crusade expansion. The guild was made up of close friends. All of which left because of the bad community in the game.

 

During Karazhan we let some players join the guild using the guild website etc. Most of them were to lazy to supply pots etc to the raids or couldn't be bothered to install the Ventrilo client when asked. Also guild "members" who couldn't even be bothered to tab out and read how a boss would work. All these people didn't last long in the guild. They were first to bang on the door when there was loot going though.

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Firstly, were you not just moaning about how people were demanding achievements before letting you raid with them??? Yet you go on to list how you dropped members for not meeting your demands to raid??? Loved that one!

 

Are you serious?

You must be a WotLK noob cause you apparently have no clue that prior to the retard-proof xpac, players with certain profs did need to supply the raid with consumables.  There was planning and preparation involved before.  Unlike now where all that is required of players like you is rolling a Deathtard and clicking a few actions.

Your comments actually support his point.  The game is overrun by hyperactive silly kiddies.  There are still cool people playing but the number has been diminishing for years.

Originally posted by Hydroblunt

Originally posted by jason_webb

 

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Originally posted by dazaonline
I beg your pardon? I ran a successful guild right the way through the burning crusade expansion. The guild was made up of close friends. All of which left because of the bad community in the game.

 

During Karazhan we let some players join the guild using the guild website etc. Most of them were to lazy to supply pots etc to the raids or couldn't be bothered to install the Ventrilo client when asked. Also guild "members" who couldn't even be bothered to tab out and read how a boss would work. All these people didn't last long in the guild. They were first to bang on the door when there was loot going though.

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Firstly, were you not just moaning about how people were demanding achievements before letting you raid with them??? Yet you go on to list how you dropped members for not meeting your demands to raid??? Loved that one!

 

 

Are you serious?

You must be a WotLK noob cause you apparently have no clue that prior to the retard-proof xpac, players with certain profs did need to supply the raid with consumables.  There was planning and preparation involved before.  Unlike now where all that is required of players like you is rolling a Deathtard and clicking a few actions.

Your comments actually support his point.  The game is overrun by hyperactive silly kiddies.  There are still cool people playing but the number has been diminishing for years.

You must have been in one of those elitist guilds that made people do this. We ran with or without consumables and did just fine. If we thought we needed them, then it was the individual player's responsibility to get them, not the crafters in the guild. And yes, I have played since launch and was the GM of a raiding guild at launch on Blackhand so don't call me a noob.

And no the game isn't overrun by hyperactive kiddies. There are studies that show the average player is 25-50 or so and the trend for WOW is much older players. The issue is, like every game, the bad players and immature ones stand out in the crowd. The good players congregate together. My guild is fine and we do not let in anyone under age 25. And we are the largest guild on the server. Good, mature players flock to us and logging in , for me, is fun and interesting.

People who complain about the community usually have a bad reputation and choose to conduct themselves in game in a manner that attracts criticism and immature players. However they are just too blind to see it.

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Originally posted by Hydroblunt
Are you serious?
You must be a WotLK noob cause you apparently have no clue that prior to the retard-proof xpac, players with certain profs did need to supply the raid with consumables.  There was planning and preparation involved before.

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Completely 100%, bang on serious!!! I wasn't the one complaining about guilds making demands, he was and if you actually read my post i was just pointing out that it may be slightly hypocritical to complain about demanding something when you actually do it yourself!!!

I'm afraid i will have to blow your theory a little too as i am an EU launch veteran, originally on Aggramar now more active on Emerald Dream and when it comes to raiding i have always taken a self responsible approach, but again, each to their own.

Originally posted by dazaonline

Hi all,

 

I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings on the World of Warcraft now that I have finally made a break from it. After four years of playing this game, I made the decision to leave the game and NEVER go back. I found myself kept getting pulled back to it every month or so, paying £8.99 and then getting bored after a couple of days. It was just a waste of money.

 

It wasn't just the money though. I got so fed up with the people in the game. The community just got worse and worse. Players were always bitching to each other about loot and it appeared to be a huge amount of jealousy if someone won an item and they didn't. Things like 'my gear is better then yours' and of course with the :P thing at the end. Which is a pile of rubbish. Why do people keep typing that :P thing in WOW these days.

 

Then of course there was the guild hoppers. They played a whole new game there! People hopping guilds every day just to get some items from some poor soul that has put loads of time into running the guild and doing the raids etc. It was a joke. What happened to the days when players use to work together and enjoyed the game? Not stabbed each other in the back just to win some crappy "epic"

The worse thing above all though was the achievement point system and the biggest joke of all is when players started to ask for these BEFORE you could join a raid. What's all that about? One player even had a ton of achievement points in a raid and still didn't know how to do a boss. Asking for these is a total waste of time.

 

On a closing note, just a quick thought for the next "big" online game that comes out. It will not stand a chance against the people that leave wow to play it. I can see the general whatever channel on the first day. It will be like 'Well in wow you can do this and that' or 'Will this game beat wow?'

 

For me the whole game has turned into this vile mess that isn't fun to play and has lost its entertainment value. Once that's gone, then its not worth playing. Would you watch a DvD you really didn't like? This post may have seem like a rant and maybe it is. I just wanted to give the people out there some food for thought.

Obviously, you don't enjoy the game and that's good that you quit. However, there are plenty of arguments against everything you state, as it isn't even remotely true or make any sense.
 

First of all, achievements are a good way to weed out a lot of bad players, won't weed them all out, because players -can- be carried through them, especially in Naxxaramus. However, to say it was a bad idea, I don't see where that comes from, are you failing to get those achievements or do you just feel it was a wate of time on Blizzard's part?

About poor communities and poor guilds, every game that gets big, will have these problems. EVERY GAME. You need to find a guild you can stand and play with, and people who you can play with, and ignore the community as a whole, in a game like WoW that is almost neccesary. An easy way to cure this problem, is to play with your own friends either in RL or online.

People backstabbing people isn't that groundbreaking and happens in almost any game, and from the sound of it, it sounds like you are quitting over losing gear. That's something I hate, gear isn't important, it's having fun that is, and if your gear you have lets you do that, then why cry? How is getting gear fun? I have fun playing with people, and I only raid with people who are close and understand that you should give out on what would improve the raid the most over yourself.

Maybe you just need a break, to say you are gone forever is quite a statement. You are very emotional, and obviously very angry, but that hardly means you won't be coming back. Also, with the success Aion is having, Wrath should be getting some nice updates and Cataclysm (assuming it's an expansion) should also be nice if Aion is still there.

Although, on that note, I still believe WoW has the best content of any MMO out right now.

Originally posted by luciusETRUR

Originally posted by dazaonline

Hi all,

 

I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings on the World of Warcraft now that I have finally made a break from it. After four years of playing this game, I made the decision to leave the game and NEVER go back. I found myself kept getting pulled back to it every month or so, paying £8.99 and then getting bored after a couple of days. It was just a waste of money.

 

It wasn't just the money though. I got so fed up with the people in the game. The community just got worse and worse. Players were always bitching to each other about loot and it appeared to be a huge amount of jealousy if someone won an item and they didn't. Things like 'my gear is better then yours' and of course with the :P thing at the end. Which is a pile of rubbish. Why do people keep typing that :P thing in WOW these days.

 

Then of course there was the guild hoppers. They played a whole new game there! People hopping guilds every day just to get some items from some poor soul that has put loads of time into running the guild and doing the raids etc. It was a joke. What happened to the days when players use to work together and enjoyed the game? Not stabbed each other in the back just to win some crappy "epic"

The worse thing above all though was the achievement point system and the biggest joke of all is when players started to ask for these BEFORE you could join a raid. What's all that about? One player even had a ton of achievement points in a raid and still didn't know how to do a boss. Asking for these is a total waste of time.

 

On a closing note, just a quick thought for the next "big" online game that comes out. It will not stand a chance against the people that leave wow to play it. I can see the general whatever channel on the first day. It will be like 'Well in wow you can do this and that' or 'Will this game beat wow?'

 

For me the whole game has turned into this vile mess that isn't fun to play and has lost its entertainment value. Once that's gone, then its not worth playing. Would you watch a DvD you really didn't like? This post may have seem like a rant and maybe it is. I just wanted to give the people out there some food for thought.

Obviously, you don't enjoy the game and that's good that you quit. However, there are plenty of arguments against everything you state, as it isn't even remotely true or make any sense.
 

First of all, achievements are a good way to weed out a lot of bad players, won't weed them all out, because players -can- be carried through them, especially in Naxxaramus. However, to say it was a bad idea, I don't see where that comes from, are you failing to get those achievements or do you just feel it was a wate of time on Blizzard's part?

About poor communities and poor guilds, every game that gets big, will have these problems. EVERY GAME. You need to find a guild you can stand and play with, and people who you can play with, and ignore the community as a whole, in a game like WoW that is almost neccesary. An easy way to cure this problem, is to play with your own friends either in RL or online.

People backstabbing people isn't that groundbreaking and happens in almost any game, and from the sound of it, it sounds like you are quitting over losing gear. That's something I hate, gear isn't important, it's having fun that is, and if your gear you have lets you do that, then why cry? How is getting gear fun? I have fun playing with people, and I only raid with people who are close and understand that you should give out on what would improve the raid the most over yourself.

Maybe you just need a break, to say you are gone forever is quite a statement. You are very emotional, and obviously very angry, but that hardly means you won't be coming back. Also, with the success Aion is having, Wrath should be getting some nice updates and Cataclysm (assuming it's an expansion) should also be nice if Aion is still there.

Although, on that note, I still believe WoW has the best content of any MMO out right now.

 

Have you heard of the mod, Underachiever....you can link any achievement in chat with it, so the whole achievements weeding out bad players thing is out the window already. 

OOriginally posted by Tutu2

Originally posted by luciusETRUR

Originally posted by dazaonline

Hi all,

 

I thought I would share my thoughts and feelings on the World of Warcraft now that I have finally made a break from it. After four years of playing this game, I made the decision to leave the game and NEVER go back. I found myself kept getting pulled back to it every month or so, paying £8.99 and then getting bored after a couple of days. It was just a waste of money.

 

It wasn't just the money though. I got so fed up with the people in the game. The community just got worse and worse. Players were always bitching to each other about loot and it appeared to be a huge amount of jealousy if someone won an item and they didn't. Things like 'my gear is better then yours' and of course with the :P thing at the end. Which is a pile of rubbish. Why do people keep typing that :P thing in WOW these days.

 

Then of course there was the guild hoppers. They played a whole new game there! People hopping guilds every day just to get some items from some poor soul that has put loads of time into running the guild and doing the raids etc. It was a joke. What happened to the days when players use to work together and enjoyed the game? Not stabbed each other in the back just to win some crappy "epic"

The worse thing above all though was the achievement point system and the biggest joke of all is when players started to ask for these BEFORE you could join a raid. What's all that about? One player even had a ton of achievement points in a raid and still didn't know how to do a boss. Asking for these is a total waste of time.

 

On a closing note, just a quick thought for the next "big" online game that comes out. It will not stand a chance against the people that leave wow to play it. I can see the general whatever channel on the first day. It will be like 'Well in wow you can do this and that' or 'Will this game beat wow?'

 

For me the whole game has turned into this vile mess that isn't fun to play and has lost its entertainment value. Once that's gone, then its not worth playing. Would you watch a DvD you really didn't like? This post may have seem like a rant and maybe it is. I just wanted to give the people out there some food for thought.

Obviously, you don't enjoy the game and that's good that you quit. However, there are plenty of arguments against everything you state, as it isn't even remotely true or make any sense.
 

First of all, achievements are a good way to weed out a lot of bad players, won't weed them all out, because players -can- be carried through them, especially in Naxxaramus. However, to say it was a bad idea, I don't see where that comes from, are you failing to get those achievements or do you just feel it was a wate of time on Blizzard's part?

About poor communities and poor guilds, every game that gets big, will have these problems. EVERY GAME. You need to find a guild you can stand and play with, and people who you can play with, and ignore the community as a whole, in a game like WoW that is almost neccesary. An easy way to cure this problem, is to play with your own friends either in RL or online.

People backstabbing people isn't that groundbreaking and happens in almost any game, and from the sound of it, it sounds like you are quitting over losing gear. That's something I hate, gear isn't important, it's having fun that is, and if your gear you have lets you do that, then why cry? How is getting gear fun? I have fun playing with people, and I only raid with people who are close and understand that you should give out on what would improve the raid the most over yourself.

Maybe you just need a break, to say you are gone forever is quite a statement. You are very emotional, and obviously very angry, but that hardly means you won't be coming back. Also, with the success Aion is having, Wrath should be getting some nice updates and Cataclysm (assuming it's an expansion) should also be nice if Aion is still there.

Although, on that note, I still believe WoW has the best content of any MMO out right now.

 

 

Have you heard of the mod, Underachiever....you can link any achievement in chat with it, so the whole achievements weeding out bad players thing is out the window already. 

Alright.. again I never said it weeded out bad players. Sure, if you have a mod that shows you have it, but really who cares? No game is going to be fun if you don't play with people you like, and that was my point of my post.