Originally posted by qbangy32

And they say $oE likes to bleed their customers dry of their money, seems nearly everything in WoW is available at a price.

 

Honestly, as a WoW player, the transfer thing does not affect me at all. In fact, this game has so many options for the people willing to pay, its great. A lot of people slap the hand that feeds them, but good lord are they the annoying type. The game will eventually be on its third expansion, and if there ARE 10 more levels to grind out, I sure as hell don't want to start from scratch if I have already experienced that content 10 times.

By the way, Blizzard isn't forcing people to do this. People can do it if they want, and everything has a price. Its funny because if they offered it for free, people would complain. Pay? Complain. Don't offer it at all? Complain. 

I agree that the instant gratification in games is getting out of hand. But that's a problem soley with that particular part of the player base, not the people that run the games. Just as with gold farming. The problem isn't really the farmers, but the so-called players that buy their gold.

As far as changing factions, I think it's a fantastic idea. If you look at it from an RPG perspective, it just makes sense. I've always thought games should have this built in. It shouldn't be easy, but it should be possible.

You know i don't undestand the "omg blizzard is trying to squeeze people for every last cent" crap,  yeah i know they sure do like the money rolling in but the cost is also put in place to keep the system from being abused, since they know alot of people just don't want to part with their money.

None of this stuff is necessary to use, nobody forces you to use it so in the end its just something that is being offered to those who might desperatly want to use it for whatever reason.  They really aren't milking anyone for any more money then their 15 bucks a month.

Its nice that they are offering services and these types of services should never be free or cheap as far as i'm concerned.

I just recently payed 10 bucks for a name change, i simply got tired of the name i chose, kinda stupid to some yeah, but it felt good that i could have that kind of option and i agree with the price of it.

These type of services take extra work and time so like i said i don't see a problem charging for it.

 I have no issue with it although I have reolled multiple times on both factions. They really want to make me happy they need to give nonraiders something more. I don't really care about raiders epeens just give me some long storyline quests to do that have good rewards. Doesn't even have to be on par with raids a step under if fine but it should have a completely different look. Honestly if my hatred of raiding was not bad before after seeing the majority of  the raiders community I have contact with in WoWs antics the hatred as only grown.

Did they say if it was going to be a $$ service or something you can actually do ingame involving quests ?  However i'm not sure having Undead in Ironforge or Night Elf in Orgrimmar is a good thing....

Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0

Originally posted by Elikal

 if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0

hope so, otherwise I really don't care about this addtion to bliz's offered services.  I'm resubbing if the race stays, ignoring it as normal if it changes your race :P

I do admit, the idea of switching factions is interesting and could be do-able.

But I feel Blizzard is going to too far with these "Paid Character Services". If any thing comes after this. it would switching your own Class. Then even after that it would go to the point of absolute sell-out: Blizzard instantly leveling a character to 80 for a fee.

I'm not saying Blizzard would do those, but from what I've seen it's plausible they would. Being the largest MMO out there, they can either make or break their own ideas.

Originally posted by Seamz

Blizzard is just milking WoW for the rest of its worth before they announce their next MMO, imho.

On another note, I see this as another factor contributing to the downfall of WoW, seeing as no one I know of is going from Horde --> Alliance, and most people will be going from Alliance --> Horde. Population imbalance is going to be something that Blizzard actually needs to think about.

If anything, this should fix the population imbalances. On all the servers I've been on, alliance has always outnumbered horde. Plus, I always wanted to be a human Death Knight, but on the horde :)

Originally posted by Hives

I remember the days when you just rerolled and experienced the other side.... I can see that the "I don't have to time to play" crowd is getting what they want but in the meantime they live on the WoW forum 24/7. I predict that premade characters will be sold soon.

Perhaps some people have already maxed out 3-4 characters dont feel like re-rolling yet again.

If WOW wasn't the game doing this, nobody would be complaining. The ONLY reason people complain is because its the cool thing to do now - insult Blizzard, WOW and its players.

Blizzard is providing a much needed service with this. I think we can expect it to involve a long cool down time (maybe 6 months or so) and cost some money. That is fine - nobody HAS to do it.

It seems the jaded members of the MMo community forget what the word "options" mean. There is an option to transfer servers, there is an option to change names, etc.... Nobody forces you to do it, nobody must do it, it is an option for people to take part of.

I am one of those players that this is being considered for. Let me explain.

When WOW launched, I created a Dwarf paladin on Blackhand. I was the GM of a raiding guild that had moved from EQ to WOW. Things were great at first, but as the 40 person raid style began to take its toll on us, our guild fractured and people left. Some of these people were "friends" in real life and the in-fighting and arguing hurt many of these friendships.

Once the guild fell apart, about 6 months after launch, I changed to the Horde side and played a Shaman. Since then, this has been my main and my Paladin is still level 60 (maybe 62 or so). The reason I do not play him is because he is stuck on a server where 99% of the players are in raiding guilds. I know no one on the server and could care less about playing on that server.

I have 3 level 80 Horde characters. I have no desire to roll a 4th just to play a class I have already played to 60 elsewhere. And remember, back in the day, Paladins were Alliance only and Shaman Horde only. I would love to play my Pally but not while he is stuck on some god awful server (not Blackhand anymore) and I have no desire to play Alliance anymore. I would like to transfer him to my server with my Horde characters and have access to him. The real life friends who play all play here and they, like me, have Alliance on other servers they would love to bring over to the Horde if they could.

Will I? It depends on how this will be done and how much it costs. Blizzard will not make it easy since it is something that should be done in rare occasions. Personally, I think it should be a one-way trip. Also there are a lot of quetions about mounts, factions, quests, etc.... that will need to be answered.

But I think people should really think before they criticize Blizzard or the players who have real reasons for wanting this. To me, this shows that Blizzard listens to their playerbase and are doing things that will help keep the game fresh as it can be for many original WOW players at launch and for those who want to come back. For many, this will bring them back.

Originally posted by Elikal

Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0

It would be awesome of Gnomes could become Lepper Gnomes.

Originally posted by Elikal

Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0

I doubt it unless something else changes. I expect this to be WAY off (maybe patch 3.3) most likely in the next expansion. I don't think the race itself would change. I would see it as too much work just for something a small percentage of the playerbase would use.

It would probably be like character selection. Say you play a Draeni Shaman and want to go Horde. You would get the option to play Tauren, Troll or Orc.

If you were a Blood Elf Paladin, I would guess you get the option to play Draeni, Human or Dwarf.

I would expect the opposite to be true too. If you are a ______ Alliance paladin, you would have to become a Blood Elf.

Tauren Druids would have to become Night Elves and vice versa.

Just my guesses and speculation though.

 This will make me resub!

/sarcasm

Most likely because the new expansion will contain a new race or races, and since this is World of Nerfstick, they don't want to risk having casual players leave because they can't play it.

I did quit when BC hit, and came back from Lich King, and I must say this game has definitely gotten stupid easy and lost its pre-BC appeal.

Originally posted by Thradar

 This will make me resub!

 

/sarcasm

nice sarcasam, too bad for some of us, who will only play what we find enjoyable (no sense paying if you're not enjoying it), this will make the difference of resubbing or not.  I've played mmos for 10 years and won't spend my cash when I'm not enjoying what I'm playing even if the reason I'm not enjoying it is the race limits /shrug

 Now if only we had FFA servers

Originally posted by krityc

 Now if only we had FFA servers

This......

Would actualy bring me back to WOW for another run.

But regarding faction transfers, looks like they'll sell just about anything to maximize their revenues, maybe you could ask them for their sisters?

I'm split on this as well. I like it because it will be good for PvP if players decide they want more balanced realms. Having the option to be the underdog is nice, even though I highly doubt many WoW players are really into that. That's one of the advantages of playing multiplayer FPS, is you can change sides to even things up. Instantly. Without paying any money. Hell some of the better class-based FPS multiplayer games automatically even teams out.

What I don't like about it is that now, players are even less accountable for thier actions. Reputation used to mean something (alot more than your stats and gear). Nowadays ninja looters and all around assholes can just change thier character's name, face, and now faction, and no one would be the wiser. I think this is a big reason that there are so many solo gamers nowadays also. Those who couldn't be bothered with the risk of a poor player, or a jerk. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell anymore. It's so anonymous.

I havent read every response but I read this as, "Give us your credit card number and we will give you whatever you want".

I see this as the downfall of WoW simply because, those who actually EARNED what they have will leave from spite. I know I would.

Someone back there brought up this turning into SOEs RMT.... Not really anything like it. Station Cash lets people buy cosmetic items... at least SOE was kind enough to make it free... just have to do some quests to get your faction relations up.... though I suppose a majority of players would prefer a quick and easy payment instead of faction grinding.