Originally posted by crunchyblack

My biggest worry about aion is leveling/reward for leveling.

First, the reason i like to level is to add to my character....add statistics, skills, equipment.  Now i understand they have a nice equipment upgrade and the (forgot the name) 5 stones thing... But auto statistics and auto skills when i level?

I feel im going to miss the long term playability of tweaking my stats, changing my skill setup or whatever, to better fit what i need and how i play.

Im worried that the levels are going to get grindy later on in  the game, and that im going to spend an awful amount of time to level up, only to have the excitement of adding stats and skill points to customize my charater. 

Having a lot amount of time imbetween levels ontop of nothing for me to do when i level up seems like its going to get me into a who cares mood.

I just feel that a mmorpg without the option to mess up, lacks any depth and complexity as far as character building goes.

im hoping im just missing something and that aion offers a bit more than arranging 5 stones for me to mess with over 50 levels, especially if your not flying though the levels like a westen mmo.

am i the only one worried about this, or is this game about loot drops and pvp only?

Did you played DAOC? Templating on DAOC is very similiar to setting up gears on Aion.

Aion's gear setup and socketting mana stone,godstone have quite big variety.

By setting up your gears mostly focused on 'Magic Resistance'

you almost become magic immune.

If you pay your stuffs mostly on 'Damage stuff(crit rate,dmg increase)'

you almost become super mob grinder (may get grinded by enemy PC)

Or you can research and try best setup for your toon.

There's other useful stats that affect very well 'Block rate' 'Parry rate' 'HP increase" "Dodge rate' 'magic accuracy'

About customizing your toons while lvling there's not that much choice

but somewhat grinding will be there.

It's like original DAOC's lvling i thought, some other people who played much mmo

 could reply to compare on other western mmo that had similiar term of original DAOC's exping.

so a mix between CoH and AC2 then? you can solo if you want, there is some repetative grind but if you party the grind is not as noticable, more fun and it's better XP.

I'd like to take this oportunity to say thanks to kilkil. You've really brought some insight into the game for a lot of people here and as I recall even caused some people that were unsure to pre-order it :P

Originally posted by gr0men

so a mix between CoH and AC2 then? you can solo if you want, there is some repetative grind but if you party the grind is not as noticable, more fun and it's better XP.

 

I'd like to take this oportunity to say thanks to kilkil. You've really brought some insight into the game for a lot of people here and as I recall even caused some people that were unsure to pre-order it :P

Thank you :)

There's some period better to solo and some perios better to group follow my old memories(half&half i think..).

But easily can say if you aren't enough rich to abuse all kind of potion stuffs(require quite much Kinah for early game)

there should be better xp for group hunting. Except just one class the Assassin.

Assassin's speed of grinding mob is almost unbelivable,, i know the first guy hit max level (45 that time) 

on a week after level cap released from 25(KOR OB limited cap to 25)

He was Assassin and 2nd guy hitted lv45 was also Assassin..

Anyway i believe if you aren't too impatient grinding is bearable haha.

Joy very wide aspect of Aion's cool contents ..

Not only level rules Aion but also Many other contents that concluded to Economy

 Here's secret spoiler

Craft(TONs of income for early crafter Rockefeller in online lawl. But its huge Lotto)

Harvest(No Lotto(well sometime does) but stable earning from diligence working)

Explorer(There's treasure!! But how can we reach the El Dorado..

Well, Glide and climb that considered to you couldn't touch. Only for Elyos though? :P)

Rift(Just too fun to infiltrate to somewhere you didn't invited and do something)

Abyss(Final winner of Aion will be who finished Abyss Gear..Sometime better to not lvl up for AP. Serious!)

Boss Competition(Especially when ambitious Asmodians touch the treasure of Elyos theres fun coming)

All these kinda contents aren't area for bot players except few case of Harvesting.

And there's quite much thing i forgot to mention.

Whatever you try hard that could have worth and respect that concluded to economy(money,kinah)

Adding one more, on lvl 41-44 period which exp requirement is getting harder

with best conditioned group i could get 10% xp per hour(not exact).

So with rough counting you may able to ding 1 level in 2days

when you played 6hours in a day on that hard level period.

Surely 46-50 period getting abit more cliff to be done, but don't be impatience.

Since level don't rule this game at finally but AP.

Because everyone will ding lvl50 someday, but no everyone gonna wear Abyss Gear, it makes difference

Compared to getting most Abyss Gear, Lvling to 50 is just easy.

once again a lot of good useful information :)   thx

by the way,  your english isn't that bad, I mean you learned english simply by playing games and forums like this etc., which is very admireable!

I speak german myself but I know how dificult it is to pick up another language without being in the country that speak the language or having someone to talk to in person who speaks the language.

Originally posted by kilkil2

Adding one more, on lvl 41-44 period which exp requirement is getting harder

with best conditioned group i could get 10% xp per hour(not exact).

So with rough counting you may able to ding 1 level in 2days

when you played 6hours in a day on that hard level period.

Surely 46-50 period getting abit more cliff to be done, but don't be impatience.

Since level don't rule this game at finally but AP.

Because everyone will ding lvl50 someday, but no everyone gonna wear Abyss Gear, it makes difference

Compared to getting most Abyss Gear, Lvling to 50 is just easy.

 

grind is only grind when advancing feels like work. If aion is enough fun to allow you to play without you really noticing any xp gain then it doesnt matter if it takes 2 hours to get a lvl or 2 weeks. Thats my opinion.

I have a suspicioun that Aion with its fast combat and plenty of pvp (which also rewards xp) is the type of game where grind doesnt matter because you're having fun.

Originally posted by gr0men

Originally posted by kilkil2

Adding one more, on lvl 41-44 period which exp requirement is getting harder

with best conditioned group i could get 10% xp per hour(not exact).

So with rough counting you may able to ding 1 level in 2days

when you played 6hours in a day on that hard level period.

Surely 46-50 period getting abit more cliff to be done, but don't be impatience.

Since level don't rule this game at finally but AP.

Because everyone will ding lvl50 someday, but no everyone gonna wear Abyss Gear, it makes difference

Compared to getting most Abyss Gear, Lvling to 50 is just easy.

 

 

grind is only grind when advancing feels like work. If aion is enough fun to allow you to play without you really noticing any xp gain then it doesnt matter if it takes 2 hours to get a lvl or 2 weeks. Thats my opinion.

I have a suspicioun that Aion with its fast combat and plenty of pvp (which also rewards xp) is the type of game where grind doesnt matter because you're having fun.

Yup! Totally agreed :)

There's lots of things to have fun and get thrilled.

Also fast paced combat with certain combo you've got to choose to use what combo on what situation

give you unlimited excitement(uh only for melee..sorc and cleric doesnt have much things like this honestly QQ)

Btw playing as Assassin/Glad/Templar is really exciting, fun.

I think caster classes are need some improvement ;x

It looks good, but I'd still like? to see some real strategic RvR, rather than fighting in random caves and such. Do the Elyos and Asmodian commanders know nothing about fortificiations? If we get some sieges and you know, actual strategy, combined with the already fluid and fun combat, Aion can be so much better.

Think DAoC + Asian design + wings.

Also fast paced combat with certain combo you've got to choose to use what combo on what situation

give you unlimited excitement(uh only for melee..sorc and cleric doesnt have much things like this honestly QQ)

Btw playing as Assassin/Glad/Templar is really exciting, fun.

I think caster classes are need some improvement ;x

Would you say the same for ranger and spiritmasters?

those are the 2 classes I am considering. Dont care how well they do in pvp or whatever, just want a class that doesn't feel.. empty after a while

Originally posted by Toxilium

It looks good, but I'd still like? to see some real strategic RvR, rather than fighting in random caves and such. Do the Elyos and Asmodian commanders know nothing about fortificiations? If we get some sieges and you know, actual strategy, combined with the already fluid and fun combat, Aion can be so much better.

Think DAoC + Asian design + wings.

You can expect that plus rewards in DAoC's sieging. Actually there was no true rewards on DAoC's sieging.

Major people who willing and like to fight dare i can say you can see progressed RvR in Aion.

Korean doesn't want or seek real fight and fun of fighting so its sometime boring

because no one trying hard to do something but want easy rewards(lower reward cause didn't tried hard)

even they could get better APs and rewards when they try something hard to achieve, i made something like this so i can say.

Game system is well done about all aspect of PvP, RvR, and their balancing.

We were just missing good peoples who really want to fight and have fun to joy game(in korean server).

Its mostly up to the culture that makes public's way to joying game.

I played on both cultures for long time so knows well about both style

So i can't swear but can assume there should be better realistic RvR,PvP actions with massive strategies.

Originally posted by gr0men

Also fast paced combat with certain combo you've got to choose to use what combo on what situation

give you unlimited excitement(uh only for melee..sorc and cleric doesnt have much things like this honestly QQ)

Btw playing as Assassin/Glad/Templar is really exciting, fun.

I think caster classes are need some improvement ;x

 

Would you say the same for ranger and spiritmasters?

those are the 2 classes I am considering. Dont care how well they do in pvp or whatever, just want a class that doesn't feel.. empty after a while

Uh, Ranger is one of best exciting class in PvP

because of they have some Lotto skill that sometime spiking very huge damage and they have lower armor.

but in PvE yes i think they have about 20% empty feeling

while all of their skill is cooling down(got to shot your bow without skills).

though since they used to jump and move around while fighting its not that boring as like cleric,sorc i think.

Spiritmaster have no much empty time for PvE i think. They are much better than sorc,cleric

have quite diverse skills and no much empty.

For aspect of solo exping Cleric,Sorc is most boring class i think~ others are just ok

Well I now have an account for this weekends EU beta weekend.

I will be playing a priest/cleric and priest/chanter (since I was a Cleric and Friar in DAoC). I'm also guessing flying is more critical to healers, a well timed flight could provide you with uninterupted undamaged healing.

Also I have a quick question, since I'm an eye candy sort of person - are there weapon particles in the game? I know some of the melee moves are already quite, colorful, but just wondered if you can craft (or some weapons already have) some particle effects :)

Thanks.

Originally posted by Wintersbite

Well I now have an account for this weekends EU beta weekend.

 

I will be playing a priest/cleric and priest/chanter (since I was a Cleric and Friar in DAoC). I'm also guessing flying is more critical to healers, a well timed flight could provide you with uninterupted undamaged healing.

 

 

Also I have a quick question, since I'm an eye candy sort of person - are there weapon particles in the game? I know some of the melee moves are already quite, colorful, but just wondered if you can craft (or some weapons already have) some particle effects :)

 

Thanks.

eh..i don't think so.

There's no way to craft particle effects..

But you can transfer gear's appearance.

ex) you have 50lvl good utility weapon but it looks suck, and you have another 40lv weapon that looks great.

you can transfer 40lv weapon's appearance to 50lv weapon so you get 40lv appearance'ed 50lv weapon

and 40lv weapon is deleted

Originally posted by kilkil2

Originally posted by Wintersbite

Well I now have an account for this weekends EU beta weekend.

 

I will be playing a priest/cleric and priest/chanter (since I was a Cleric and Friar in DAoC). I'm also guessing flying is more critical to healers, a well timed flight could provide you with uninterupted undamaged healing.

 

 

Also I have a quick question, since I'm an eye candy sort of person - are there weapon particles in the game? I know some of the melee moves are already quite, colorful, but just wondered if you can craft (or some weapons already have) some particle effects :)

 

Thanks.

 

eh..i don't think so.

There's no way to craft particle effects..

But you can transfer gear's appearance.

ex) you have 50lvl good utility weapon but it looks suck, and you have another 40lv weapon that looks great.

you can transfer 40lv weapon's appearance to 50lv weapon so you get 40lv appearance'ed 50lv weapon

and 40lv weapon is deleted

Thanks :)

That sounds quite good.

Originally posted by kilkil2

You may able to take lower floor's castle with 24man.

But its hard to do at upper floor castle, only way is zombie rush by Kisk resurrection.

Regardless you can or you can't there should be almost no chance to do that imho.

It'll be zergish most time because everyone want Medals.

And game's early time its just like War's sieging i think.

But after time passed more peoples started to having interest on Abyss Gear

that required quite much Abyss Point it getting more struggle while sieging.

Because Sieging is one of easiest way of quick AP earning in short time.

2 forces(48man) Sieging team could be eliminated by about 10 defending enemy race.

If all of your members not paying attention of backstab its not that hard

to die to 10 enemies even your race having 48man.

Usually taking down castle guardian have no much strategies.

but 'How to take care about enemy PCs' is up to strategies and Artifacts and players quality.

 

Wow defending sounds awesome.  I play defense in every sport I play, soccer center back, and I love defense over anything else in games.  Really good news to me.  =D

Originally posted by Wintersbite

Well I now have an account for this weekends EU beta weekend.

 

I will be playing a priest/cleric and priest/chanter (since I was a Cleric and Friar in DAoC). I'm also guessing flying is more critical to healers, a well timed flight could provide you with uninterupted undamaged healing.

 

 

Also I have a quick question, since I'm an eye candy sort of person - are there weapon particles in the game? I know some of the melee moves are already quite, colorful, but just wondered if you can craft (or some weapons already have) some particle effects :)

 

Thanks.

You can add godstones to your weapons:

www.aionarmory.com/search.aspx

To make them look like these:

Originally posted by Wintersbite

Originally posted by kilkil2

Originally posted by Wintersbite

Well I now have an account for this weekends EU beta weekend.

 

I will be playing a priest/cleric and priest/chanter (since I was a Cleric and Friar in DAoC). I'm also guessing flying is more critical to healers, a well timed flight could provide you with uninterupted undamaged healing.

 

 

Also I have a quick question, since I'm an eye candy sort of person - are there weapon particles in the game? I know some of the melee moves are already quite, colorful, but just wondered if you can craft (or some weapons already have) some particle effects :)

 

Thanks.

 

eh..i don't think so.

There's no way to craft particle effects..

But you can transfer gear's appearance.

ex) you have 50lvl good utility weapon but it looks suck, and you have another 40lv weapon that looks great.

you can transfer 40lv weapon's appearance to 50lv weapon so you get 40lv appearance'ed 50lv weapon

and 40lv weapon is deleted

 

Thanks :)

 

That sounds quite good.

This is a godstone-equipped dagger.  So, if you like particle effects, grab some godstones.

Godstones are listed here:

www.aionarmory.com/search.aspx

Oh i forgot godstone.

I thought about its efficiency only.. forgot its effects ;p

Some of their price is about 20m(silence,blind)~60m(paralyze) Kinah btw (60m kinah = around 50$)

Cheapest one is about 2-3m kinah.

Also this price is 7months after price xP. x3~x5 for early game period.

You guys need to remember that

Kinah isn't that easy to earn it could take about 50hours  to earn 10m kinah on around 40lvl period.

(Excluded Kinah that you gonna need to spend.. if you earn 10m kinah,

i think 5m or more kinah you've got to use if you don't want to be miserable)

Crafting godstone on weapon for effects is really hard i think..

It's not like just a dye that can buy easily or some crafted gear that time and few money will let you get

but only drop off from monsters VERY RARELY. except some cheap godstones

don't think to crafting it on weapon for effects ;p until you buy alot of kinah on ebay.

even though 7months passed away i think only 2-30% peoples

can afford to use certain godstone that they want to use(still quite expensive).

Aion's economy is really harsh until you get some from ebay(or play hardcore).

I swear at least 4-60% of peoples who played Aion for 7months never had chance to get it from mob.

while I PvE so long time, 46lvl Sorc+50lv Cleric I only saw one godstone that dropped

from some Named boss mob(but it was 2-3m kinah one). surely I couldn't win a dice hehe.

Thanks for all the info! Nice to have some input from Korean players with more experience. After checking your youtube videos i noticed almost all of the footage was from air. I'm wondering why is that so? Do people prefer flying or does it just depend on the situation? I hope it doesn't get too one sided and everyone will be just flying, that's why im asking.

Originally posted by kilkil2

Oh i forgot godstone.

I thought about its efficiency only.. forgot its effects ;p

Some of their price is about 20m(silence,blind)~60m(paralyze) Kinah btw (60m kinah = around 50$)

Cheapest one is about 2-3m kinah.

Also this price is 7months after price xP. x3~x5 for early game period.

You guys need to remember that

Kinah isn't that easy to earn it could take about 50hours  to earn 10m kinah on around 40lvl period.

(Excluded Kinah that you gonna need to spend.. if you earn 10m kinah,

i think 5m or more kinah you've got to use if you don't want to be miserable)

Crafting godstone on weapon for effects is really hard i think..

It's not like just a dye that can buy easily or some crafted gear that time and few money will let you get

but only drop off from monsters VERY RARELY. except some cheap godstones

don't think to crafting it on weapon for effects ;p until you buy alot of kinah on ebay.

even though 7months passed away i think only 2-30% peoples

can afford to use certain godstone that they want to use(still quite expensive).

Aion's economy is really harsh until you get some from ebay(or play hardcore).

I swear at least 4-60% of peoples who played Aion for 7months never had chance to get it from mob.

while I PvE so long time, 46lvl Sorc+50lv Cleric I only saw one godstone that dropped

from some Named boss mob(but it was 2-3m kinah one). surely I couldn't win a dice hehe.

 

I got 2 blue grade godstones in Draupnir instance in 2 days (regular mobs, no bosses) :P both were extra damage though (low price compared to silence and paralize).