You just can't win sometimes it seems.

First people say that AoC sucks and game play is horrible so they listen and make changes and now people say they ruined the game or look the game sucks because they are doing a radical overhaul of it.

Will this make AoC a better game? More playable? Hard to say until people have spent some time playing it but doing nothing certainly isn't the way to survive.

You can make changes for lots of reasons. The content has gotten old and tired for the current population. There design issues. There were technical issues. You just plain screwed up. Sometimes all of the above.

Can the changes end up causing more problems? Oh yeah especially if the changes are because of basic flaws in the game and you haven't actually figured out what was wrong let alone how to fix it.

But, doing something is better than doing nothing so I will hope that this works out for AoC and might even give it a try to see for myself.

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by vinzone

I'm happy to hear about this patch finally coming out, I had been waiting for it while I was playing but didn't last long enough.

I'll be waiting to see if vets get any free time this summer and if not I will have to resub and check it out.

i would love to see Funcom launching a vet win back program, a 2 weeks free trial or something... i think they deserve it and Funcom owes it to them especially those who played at launch. Also it is more likely that they will stick around if given a free trial cause 1.05 has most of what they have been asking for. so i think it is a good idea and a win win situation.

They just did a 30 day vet win back program for AO.

Those who came back got met with massive lag and disconnects ( RK3 even got totally brought down ) due to a script kiddy hammering the database with a chat bot last week, followed by a massively broken patch yesterday which removed players XP, perks, research, levels, etc., which caused a rollback to be necessary, and the /petition system being offline so they couldn't even contact an ARK/GM ingame.

You really sure you want them to try the same for AoC?

Originally posted by sigurd57

I must be the only one that thinks the changes in AoC are decent. 
I'm happy that gear makes some kind of sense.   I'm happy with my somewhat increased survivability (I play an Assassin).I'm more of a PvE player than a PvP player these days.  (Guess I've 'grown up' )

I just see the latest patch as a nice "fix" for a lot of things.    This of course all should have been in the game since the start, but hey, a year + paid beta... It's all good.    

I'm OK so far with everything except for some unjust nerfs to HoX.   My Alt is a HoX,  I can't kill a damn thing.

 

Ofc you're not alone in finding the changes with the new patch decent, the biggest group is as always the silent majority.

Nay-sayers will always scream the loudest. Just look at this forum...

Originally posted by Barteaux

Originally posted by sigurd57

I must be the only one that thinks the changes in AoC are decent. 
I'm happy that gear makes some kind of sense.   I'm happy with my somewhat increased survivability (I play an Assassin).I'm more of a PvE player than a PvP player these days.  (Guess I've 'grown up' )

I just see the latest patch as a nice "fix" for a lot of things.    This of course all should have been in the game since the start, but hey, a year + paid beta... It's all good.    

I'm OK so far with everything except for some unjust nerfs to HoX.   My Alt is a HoX,  I can't kill a damn thing.

 

 

Ofc you're not alone in finding the changes with the new patch decent, the biggest group is as always the silent majority.

Nay-sayers will always scream the loudest. Just look at this forum...

No kidding haha. It's funny that for every one whiner around here, that just won't even attempt to accept change (a change that was necessary in the long run, no less), there's like 10+ people who understand, accept, and for the most part, even welcome the new changes. What does that tell you?
 

I'll admit that what SOE did with the NGE was terrible, and in all honestly, it's the only time I've ever quit a game based on a drastic change, but to compare the 1.05 patch to the NGE is just ridiculous. That's an apples to oranges comparison, bar none.

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by vinzone

I'm happy to hear about this patch finally coming out, I had been waiting for it while I was playing but didn't last long enough.

I'll be waiting to see if vets get any free time this summer and if not I will have to resub and check it out.

i would love to see Funcom launching a vet win back program, a 2 weeks free trial or something... i think they deserve it and Funcom owes it to them especially those who played at launch. Also it is more likely that they will stick around if given a free trial cause 1.05 has most of what they have been asking for. so i think it is a good idea and a win win situation.

 

They just did a 30 day vet win back program for AO.

Those who came back got met with massive lag and disconnects ( RK3 even got totally brought down ) due to a script kiddy hammering the database with a chat bot last week, followed by a massively broken patch yesterday which removed players XP, perks, research, levels, etc., which caused a rollback to be necessary, and the /petition system being offline so they couldn't even contact an ARK/GM ingame.

You really sure you want them to try the same for AoC?

absolutely positive, 

now, supposing that whatever you claim about AO is true (even partially)... those kind of things did not happen after 1.05 released, no lag no xp loss etc...

so yeah, a vet win back program will do just great.

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Originally posted by clearSam

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Originally posted by eyeswideopen

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Originally posted by clearSam

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Originally posted by vinzone

I'm happy to hear about this patch finally coming out, I had been waiting for it while I was playing but didn't last long enough.
I'll be waiting to see if vets get any free time this summer and if not I will have to resub and check it out.

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i would love to see Funcom launching a vet win back program, a 2 weeks free trial or something... i think they deserve it and Funcom owes it to them especially those who played at launch. Also it is more likely that they will stick around if given a free trial cause 1.05 has most of what they have been asking for. so i think it is a good idea and a win win situation.

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They just did a 30 day vet win back program for AO.
Those who came back got met with massive lag and disconnects ( RK3 even got totally brought down ) due to a script kiddy hammering the database with a chat bot last week, followed by a massively broken patch yesterday which removed players XP, perks, research, levels, etc., which caused a rollback to be necessary, and the /petition system being offline so they couldn't even contact an ARK/GM ingame.
You really sure you want them to try the same for AoC?

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absolutely positive, 
now, supposing that whatever you claim about AO is true (even partially)... those kind of things did not happen after 1.05 released, no lag no xp loss etc...
so yeah, a vet win back program will do just great.

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 I smell a Troll...

AoC was:

1. Anounced
2. Planned
3. Tested by the players
4. Polished before publish
5. Didn't remove any classes
6. Didn't remove any game play mechanics (even enhanced RPG system)
7. Asked by the players

SWG:

1. None of the above

I really like the new patch

Respected MMO columnist Sanya Weathers likes the patch:

http://www.examiner.com/x-5353-MMORPG-Examiner~y2009m6d26-Age-of-Conan-releases-dev-walkthrough-video-for-Tarantia-Commons

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Esquire1980

I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

Edit:  and yeah, AoC.  My advise, avoid it like the plague.

 

ROFL! You guys are so sad that I almost begin to feel pitty for you guys.

 

 

NOT!

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Seriously, you cannot even phantom the big difference between the 1.05 patch of AoC and the NGE with SWG.

NGE on SWG was announced only 24 hours upfront to the whole world and then just hammered through our troats with no mercy! Skill system being ripped away! Classes being ripped away!

The changes in 1.05 are NOTHING like that!!

Patch 1.05 has been announced months and months ago. And on top of that, it has been available on the Public Test Server for 2 months!!

Every subscribed player had the ability to log on to PTS and test all the changes themselves and provide feedback on the special PTS forums for 2 months!!

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So that you guys even try to compaire those two makes me laugh and just shows how deep you guys have drown yourself in your eternal pre-NGE SWG missery, that you don't even notice anymore what is actually going on outside you little grudge balloon.

Cheers

 

You should direct your pity towards the OP instead of "you guys". You disagree with him..not any group of people that use this forum. Seems we arent the only ones who have grudges huh?

And you should suck a fart from my bum, your point is?

Well the latest patch has brought me back as a customer and I'm enjoying the game once again, I see this patch as no bad thing at all, and comparing it to the CU/NGE of SWG is ludicrous, the CU patch made me quit within the month, the AoC patch actually brought me back.

Originally posted by qbangy32

Well the latest patch has brought me back as a customer and I'm enjoying the game once again, I see this patch as no bad thing at all, and comparing it to the CU/NGE of SWG is ludicrous, the CU patch made me quit within the month, the AoC patch actually brought me back.

 

I aggree, the patch got me to reactive also.

Originally posted by Esquire1980

I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

Edit:  and yeah, AoC.  My advise, avoid it like the plague.

I take it you either:

A. Haven't played it for more then five minutes.

B. Haven't switched from one of your old specs that might have changed.

C. Never tested it on TL.

or

D. Have never played the game.

This isn't an NGE by any definition of that term.

Guilds that I haven't seen in months have returned and are staying.

Trial member feedback has also been positive in game.

No patch is perfect but the majority widely agrees this is their best patch to date.

You're never going to please everyone 100%.

You're also always going to have the whiners that do more complaining then playing and learning how to the play.

For the ones that were around for the SWG:NGE ... did you ever really play it? Have you played AoC with their new 1.05 patch?

I suspect that the people who think that the two are the same have played neither. NGE changed the whole game. 1.05 made AoC better but kept the same base game alive.

Not the same at all as anyone who really knew what they were talking about would know.

One of these days I will wise up and stop feeding the trolls.