Is a complete and utter moron. I would never pay 50 dollars again for that Crap game and its Crap guard towers mybe if they told me.

With this copy of Darkfall we will have Anti hack software, No Safe Zones (all towers even guild citys removed), Locational Banks, Armor drops from mobs that are worth a damn, All starter weapons do 0.05 DMG to other players,  Fixed NPC UI, Added pets, Added NPC hired Mercs, ect the list gos on but those are the lies that made me turn away after 4 months of play so. Basically AV can fist there o rings to the point of permanint damage

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I think the NA server is for the players that have NOT got the game yet. You know many waits until a NA server first.

 You don't have to buy a new client,  you only need to pay for the character transfer, that will start after 3 months of the start of the na server.

LoL i love how only 2 people tried to defend this crap.

yeah in 3 months the NA server will be over run by hackfesters and 3 months of afk sparing later lol.

AV couldnt even pay me not to go to Mortal.

But yeah when NA is out you 2 have a great fucken time and say hello to the Towers for me there so No safe zone's.

Yeah they still advertise Darkfall with Lies i love all the Lies!!!!

"http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html"

"Will Darkfall have safe zones?
There are no safe zones in Darkfall unless the players themselves create them or seek them out. There is no area where a player cannot be attacked by another player. In the starting locations, guard towers will attack aggressors, providing some measure of safety for new players."

So a Tower thats a NPC object that zaps you even through mountains by Player citys Those arnt safe zones???

Needless to say its Range of shooting you is longer then its range of seeing you..

Fun fun welp have fun in your hardcore dangrous Hackzor world of Fagon..

Originally posted by Teiman

 You don't have to buy a new client,  you only need to pay for the character transfer, that will start after 3 months of the start of the na server.

Needless to say if it survives past 3 months.

With all the flying boats need to make some head room.

Originally posted by daarco

I think the NA server is for the players that have NOT got the game yet. You know many waits until a NA server first.

You really believe that there are that many people, not playing Darkfall.  Because they were just sitting around waiting for a NA server?  AV is going to be hard pressed to hit 1/4th of the 10,000 cap they set for server.  Sorry but the days of believing there are hundreds of thousand of people beating down AV's door to play DF, are long gone my friend.

Originally posted by krieblood

AV couldnt even pay me not to go to Mortal.

You don't like DF. Fair enough. But don't get wound up about Mortal. It's not the baby jesus of MMORPGs. It might even be poo. There will be good games released, adn they will be fun, Mortal may or may not be one of the fun ones.

Originally posted by daarco

I think the NA server is for the players that have NOT got the game yet. You know many waits until a NA server first.

I m willing to bet that almost all the people wanting to play this game bought it already. Some will transfer, a few will buy, then it will become a dead server on both sides of the ocean. This isn t going to do anything good to a game with losing subs as it is. Spread out the community thats already dropping, lol just doesn t make sense.

I was waiting for the NA server to open up, but im still staying away from the game until the numerous problems with this game are resolved. I try a trial account to see if that may change my mind.....if they ever do that.

I was a huge fan of Darkfall but am pretty much tired of AV's crap and am no fan of the company.

I would like to play on the NA server but I won't pay for the client again.   There are so many broken game mechanics and hackers it isn't even funny.    This expansion won't be an expansion at all and they pass it off like its going to free which is total bullshit.   When you buy a hamburger at McD's you GET THE BUN FREE!!!!    Wahoo!!!!    For the past 5 months I feel they have neglected a very promising game and totally turned their backs on their customers.    This game could have been something special but AV sure screwed it up with all their arrogance.

Just tired of being mislead and under informed intentionally as a business practice of theirs.    I think Mortal Online is going to be junk but if their company deals with its customers alot better than AV does, I won't feel bad spending my money on that game to try it out.    I really don't feel AV deserved my money or support because it never felt mutual.

Originally posted by krieblood

LoL i love how only 2 people tried to defend this crap.

yeah in 3 months the NA server will be over run by hackfesters and 3 months of afk sparing later lol.

AV couldnt even pay me not to go to Mortal.

But yeah when NA is out you 2 have a great fucken time and say hello to the Towers for me there so No safe zone's.

Yeah they still advertise Darkfall with Lies i love all the Lies!!!!

"http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html"

"Will Darkfall have safe zones?
There are no safe zones in Darkfall unless the players themselves create them or seek them out. There is no area where a player cannot be attacked by another player. In the starting locations, guard towers will attack aggressors, providing some measure of safety for new players."

So a Tower thats a NPC object that zaps you even through mountains by Player citys Those arnt safe zones???

Needless to say its Range of shooting you is longer then its range of seeing you..

Fun fun welp have fun in your hardcore dangrous Hackzor world of Fagon..

It sounds as you just dont like Darkfall at all, not because they will open up another server.

And what about the "safe zone"? If you belive some guardtower makes a location safe..then you have not played darkfall at all. The tower cant defend anyone. Think that was explained many months ago : )

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

I was waiting for the NA server to open up, but im still staying away from the game until the numerous problems with this game are resolved. I try a trial account to see if that may change my mind.....if they ever do that.

What will you try ? trial account ...and where you will you find the trial account ? L L

(Those who know some things about the game will unterstand )

you people are always a great read and a great laugh.

All this bit about the company itself and not the game is amazing to me! It reminds me of how I used to not believe people actually watched American Idol until I found out that, yeah, they do!

I consider myself lucky. Wnen I shop for something I buy what I like, I dont care who from or what their customer services is like UNLESS I am actually buying customer service which in the case of software I am not.

And people who follow games before they come out are either inexperienced gamers are just really slow learners.

Sorry guys but the truth is, when it comes to MMO's if you dont like Darkfall it means you like the other ones.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I consider myself lucky. Wnen I shop for something I buy what I like, I dont care who from or what their customer services is like UNLESS I am actually buying customer service which in the case of software I am not.

Too bad MMORPGs are about keeping your customers subscribed or bite the dust. Not only one.

Sometimes I wonder if you're just trolling, because your attitude is not helping Darkfall nor Aventurine.

Originally posted by Routver

 

Too bad MMORPGs are about keeping your customers subscribed or bite the dust. Not only one.

Sometimes I wonder if you're just trolling, because your attitude is not helping Darkfall nor Aventurine.

The people who complain are

1. either still playing the game because they havent found anything better

or

1.

I think suggestions on how to make the game better is great but the orginal post for this string is anything but constructive and on a lot of gaming boards would have been locked right off the bat

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

you people are always a great read and a great laugh.

All this bit about the company itself and not the game is amazing to me! It reminds me of how I used to not believe people actually watched American Idol until I found out that, yeah, they do!

I consider myself lucky. Wnen I shop for something I buy what I like, I dont care who from or what their customer services is like UNLESS I am actually buying customer service which in the case of software I am not.

And people who follow games before they come out are either inexperienced gamers are just really slow learners.

Sorry guys but the truth is, when it comes to MMO's if you dont like Darkfall it means you like the other ones.

Actually quite a few people spend their money to "vote" for what they like and dislike.  Whether it be MMOs or pretty much anything.

You may not be aware but there are quite a large number of people who refuse to buy anything from WalMart.  Why?  Because they do not like the business practices that WalMart engages in.  I do not happen to be one of them, but I can respect those who feel that strongly about a certain principal.

The same can be said about quite  a few gaming companies.  There are quite a few gamers who will never touch another SOE product because of SWG.  EA, Turbine, Blizzard... they all have their percentage of gamers who will never buy another product.

So, thanks for letting us know that you are not concerned about the company behind the product.  Good to know.  Does that sentiment reflect the majority of the gaming populace?  Who knows. 

We do know that there is at least a certain percentage of the gaming population that the company behind the product DOES make a difference for.   To try and just wave that percentage off like they don't matter comes off as un-educated, or perhaps arrogant.  

Either way, a few more months will decide if the majority believes as you do, or differently.  Aventurine rolled the dice with this decision; we'll see how it works out for them. 

Originally posted by xzyax

 

Actually quite a few people spend their money to "vote" for what they like and dislike.  Whether it be MMOs or pretty much anything.

 

You may not be aware but there are quite a large number of people who refuse to buy anything from WalMart.  Why?  Because they do not like the business practices that WalMart engages in.  I do not happen to be one of them, but I can respect those who feel that strongly about a certain principal.

 

The same can be said about quite  a few gaming companies.  There are quite a few gamers who will never touch another SOE product because of SWG.  EA, Turbine, Blizzard... they all have their percentage of gamers who will never buy another product.

 

So, thanks for letting us know that you are not concerned about the company behind the product.  Good to know.  Does that sentiment reflect the majority of the gaming populace?  Who knows. 

We do know that there is a least a certain percentage of the gaming population that the company behind the product DOES make a difference for.   To try and just wave that percentage off like they don't matter comes off as un-educated, or perhaps arrogant.  

Either way, a few more months will decide if the majority believes as you do, or differently.  Aventurine rolled the dice with this decision; we'll see how it works out for them. 

i think that is all great and cute but serious...out of ALL the things in the world to have a principle about THIS is it?

if protesting AV even though you like the game is the only prinicpled thing you can find to protest in lfe you got it gravy!

ADDED: ON THE OTHER HAND. If you leave the game becuase you dont like and you found a game you like more. THEN I am in your ballgame.

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by krieblood

LoL i love how only 2 people tried to defend this crap.

yeah in 3 months the NA server will be over run by hackfesters and 3 months of afk sparing later lol.

AV couldnt even pay me not to go to Mortal.

But yeah when NA is out you 2 have a great fucken time and say hello to the Towers for me there so No safe zone's.

Yeah they still advertise Darkfall with Lies i love all the Lies!!!!

"http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html"

"Will Darkfall have safe zones?
There are no safe zones in Darkfall unless the players themselves create them or seek them out. There is no area where a player cannot be attacked by another player. In the starting locations, guard towers will attack aggressors, providing some measure of safety for new players."

So a Tower thats a NPC object that zaps you even through mountains by Player citys Those arnt safe zones???

Needless to say its Range of shooting you is longer then its range of seeing you..

Fun fun welp have fun in your hardcore dangrous Hackzor world of Fagon..

 

It sounds as you just dont like Darkfall at all, not because they will open up another server.

And what about the "safe zone"? If you belive some guardtower makes a location safe..then you have not played darkfall at all. The tower cant defend anyone. Think that was explained many months ago : )

Yeah ok i was in Dusk alliance in Vindicators for your info iv played. Need more info Toons name was Ikisis Frost.

And yeah ok it dosnt stop you from killing people in citys huh.

So when was the last time Alfar could enter the Dwarf city and kill people without being killed by the towers before they even get close to entering. yeah can u answer that

No you cant because you know damn well that you cant and that is  safe zone and your just a fan boy.

So when you have something true to say post back because know Guard towers in NPC main citys is SAFEZONE alfar cant enter any city without a tower killing them.

and the towers in guild citys yeah they jsut vie off ur location thats cool.

PvP games are ment to be PvP not PvPTower.

So go play darkfail since its so Awesome and sandbox.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by xzyax

 

Actually quite a few people spend their money to "vote" for what they like and dislike.  Whether it be MMOs or pretty much anything.

 

You may not be aware but there are quite a large number of people who refuse to buy anything from WalMart.  Why?  Because they do not like the business practices that WalMart engages in.  I do not happen to be one of them, but I can respect those who feel that strongly about a certain principal.

 

The same can be said about quite  a few gaming companies.  There are quite a few gamers who will never touch another SOE product because of SWG.  EA, Turbine, Blizzard... they all have their percentage of gamers who will never buy another product.

 

So, thanks for letting us know that you are not concerned about the company behind the product.  Good to know.  Does that sentiment reflect the majority of the gaming populace?  Who knows. 

We do know that there is a least a certain percentage of the gaming population that the company behind the product DOES make a difference for.   To try and just wave that percentage off like they don't matter comes off as un-educated, or perhaps arrogant.  

Either way, a few more months will decide if the majority believes as you do, or differently.  Aventurine rolled the dice with this decision; we'll see how it works out for them. 

 

i think that is all great and cute but serious...out of ALL the things in the world to have a principle about THIS is it?

if protesting AV even though you like the game is the only prinicpled thing you can find to protest in lfe you got it gravy!

ADDED: ON THE OTHER HAND. If you leave the game becuase you dont like and you found a game you like more. THEN I am in your ballgame.

Yes, you are right in the other post.

Not all threads are about constructive criticism, but you don't have to read the forums, there are plenty of gamers who don't bother to touch discussion boards. If your feelings are getting hurt in here or at forumfall, don't browse them. Nobody is forcing you to do it, right?

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by xzyax

 

Actually quite a few people spend their money to "vote" for what they like and dislike.  Whether it be MMOs or pretty much anything.

 

You may not be aware but there are quite a large number of people who refuse to buy anything from WalMart.  Why?  Because they do not like the business practices that WalMart engages in.  I do not happen to be one of them, but I can respect those who feel that strongly about a certain principal.

 

The same can be said about quite  a few gaming companies.  There are quite a few gamers who will never touch another SOE product because of SWG.  EA, Turbine, Blizzard... they all have their percentage of gamers who will never buy another product.

 

So, thanks for letting us know that you are not concerned about the company behind the product.  Good to know.  Does that sentiment reflect the majority of the gaming populace?  Who knows. 

We do know that there is a least a certain percentage of the gaming population that the company behind the product DOES make a difference for.   To try and just wave that percentage off like they don't matter comes off as un-educated, or perhaps arrogant.  

Either way, a few more months will decide if the majority believes as you do, or differently.  Aventurine rolled the dice with this decision; we'll see how it works out for them. 

 

i think that is all great and cute but serious...out of ALL the things in the world to have a principle about THIS is it?

if protesting AV even though you like the game is the only prinicpled thing you can find to protest in lfe you got it gravy!

ADDED: ON THE OTHER HAND. If you leave the game becuase you dont like and you found a game you like more. THEN I am in your ballgame.

I don't pretend to understand those who feel that stongly about it.

I'm just saying that it might not be a smart business decision to pretend it will be an insignifcant percentage of your player-base that will in fact decide it IS a big enough issue.
 

Heck, I'm confused about those who get all EMO about a little bug getting squashed... but there are quite a few people who think it really is a big deal.

If nothing else from your time here on mmorpg.com you should have learned that there are in fact people who get upset about the smallest of infractions from MMO companies.  It isn't just DarkFall, but pretty much every forum.  Granted, Darkfall is probably number one on the crap-list right now... but that will change in time.

Tasos could have handled the situation in a way that only a fraction of those who did or will quit will never return again.  I still think they will reverse their decision on this before July 7th. 

You post on ForumFall as well, do you think this is just a tiny issue that will have minimal impact on DarkFall?   The 3-4 hours queue times are about the only thing that seems to have come close to this magnitude on the Official forums.  If it doesn't blow over by the weekend, I fully expect a reversal announcement from Tasos. 

Originally posted by xzyax

I don't pretend to understand those who feel that stongly about it.

I'm just saying that it might not be a smart business decision to pretend it will be an insignifcant percentage of your player-base that will in fact decide it IS a big enough issue.
 

Heck, I'm confused about those who get all EMO about a little bug getting squashed... but there are quite a few people who think it really is a big deal.

 

If nothing else from your time here on mmorpg.com you should have learned that there are in fact people who get upset about the smallest of infractions from MMO companies.  It isn't just DarkFall, but pretty much every forum.  Granted, Darkfall is probably number one on the crap-list right now... but that will change in time.

Tasos could have handled the situation in a way that only a fraction of those who did or will quit will never return again.  I still think they will reverse their decision on this before July 7th. 

You post on ForumFall as well, do you think this is just a tiny issue that will have minimal impact on DarkFall?   The 3-4 hours queue times are about the only thing that seems to have come close to this magnitude on the Official forums.  If it doesn't blow over by the weekend, I fully expect a reversal announcement from Tasos. 

I honestly dont think that there are enough gamers in the world that would stop playing a game they like in order to protest some random promise that was made by a developer.

If there are, then games are over and all we will have is really bad games with great promises but in all reality I think think you WAY over estimate you power

Originally posted by krieblood

Is a complete and utter moron. I would never pay 50 dollars again for that Crap game and its Crap guard towers mybe if they told me.

With this copy of Darkfall we will have Anti hack software, No Safe Zones (all towers even guild citys removed), Locational Banks, Armor drops from mobs that are worth a damn, All starter weapons do 0.05 DMG to other players,  Fixed NPC UI, Added pets, Added NPC hired Mercs, ect the list gos on but those are the lies that made me turn away after 4 months of play so. Basically AV can fist there o rings to the point of permanint damage

 

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Hell no I would not buy DF NA.  Then again I also was not moronic enough to purchase the EU version, something the OP can not say.

Originally posted by Baio2k

Originally posted by krieblood

Is a complete and utter moron. I would never pay 50 dollars again for that Crap game and its Crap guard towers mybe if they told me.

With this copy of Darkfall we will have Anti hack software, No Safe Zones (all towers even guild citys removed), Locational Banks, Armor drops from mobs that are worth a damn, All starter weapons do 0.05 DMG to other players,  Fixed NPC UI, Added pets, Added NPC hired Mercs, ect the list gos on but those are the lies that made me turn away after 4 months of play so. Basically AV can fist there o rings to the point of permanint damage

 

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Hell no I would not buy DF NA.  Then again I also was not moronic enough to purchase the EU version, something the OP can not say.

Hey im not saying it was a awful game the engine was awesome game play sick the game was Really fucking good but Safe zones gave people a place to hide and just farm mats to make armor but when they go out in the world there naked.

the Community was a major part of why i was like screw this they where all carebear shits i would ride my Eradan (cat) for 60 to 2 or 3 hours and not see anyone when i do..

A. Had some stupid auto aim where they could hit you Reguardless run and turna dn shit never miss launch you down and allways run slightly faster then you no matter what you will not catch them.

B. Naked

C.Naked on a mount (kil lthe mount to make them stop then there naked)

Now im not saying out of the months i played i have ran into Some good fights at random just gankers running into gankers but these where to few and far between to go into.

Basically the sad truth of what you had options to do in game was run just outside the Enemy citys targeting range. Find there or have located there Noob spawns (goblins, hobgoblins, undead, Bla bla bla) you ambush in when theere not looking and as they run like a pack of scared rabbits you focus fire and pick off a few of the weaker ones in the hurd (thats right your out numbered but they run leaving a few to die.

LoL if had some good laughs killing Elves trapping them off in the hob goblin cave.

But that is crap content to go off of oh yeah guild combat like Naked Zerg Fest of respawn and rush respawn rush till the armored enemy's attasking there city are dead and can be looted.

Yeah i wont pay for another month subscription for that crap content. Let alone Buy another copy come on whos Screwing Who here? LoL

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by xzyax

I don't pretend to understand those who feel that stongly about it.

I'm just saying that it might not be a smart business decision to pretend it will be an insignifcant percentage of your player-base that will in fact decide it IS a big enough issue.
 

Heck, I'm confused about those who get all EMO about a little bug getting squashed... but there are quite a few people who think it really is a big deal.

 

If nothing else from your time here on mmorpg.com you should have learned that there are in fact people who get upset about the smallest of infractions from MMO companies.  It isn't just DarkFall, but pretty much every forum.  Granted, Darkfall is probably number one on the crap-list right now... but that will change in time.

Tasos could have handled the situation in a way that only a fraction of those who did or will quit will never return again.  I still think they will reverse their decision on this before July 7th. 

You post on ForumFall as well, do you think this is just a tiny issue that will have minimal impact on DarkFall?   The 3-4 hours queue times are about the only thing that seems to have come close to this magnitude on the Official forums.  If it doesn't blow over by the weekend, I fully expect a reversal announcement from Tasos. 

 

I honestly dont think that there are enough gamers in the world that would stop playing a game they like in order to protest some random promise that was made by a developer.

If there are, then games are over and all we will have is really bad games with great promises but in all reality I think think you WAY over estimate you power

Umm... are you completely oblivious to what happened to SWG?   There were quite a few of us that left that game for good when they pulled the NGE despite promises from Devs, and everyone else connected with the game.

SWG never recovered.

I think that you over-estimate the loyalty that Aventurine has instilled in DarkFall's NA player-base.  We will see how this plays out over the next 3 months.

I'll still be around and posting 3 months from now.  Feel free to bring this post up and call me on it if I turn out to be wrong.  You might want to go back and check some of my previous posting from before Beta and leading up to the Release though.

downtoearth still owes me on a few "guarantees" from back then. 

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by xzyax

I don't pretend to understand those who feel that stongly about it.

I'm just saying that it might not be a smart business decision to pretend it will be an insignifcant percentage of your player-base that will in fact decide it IS a big enough issue.
 

Heck, I'm confused about those who get all EMO about a little bug getting squashed... but there are quite a few people who think it really is a big deal.

 

If nothing else from your time here on mmorpg.com you should have learned that there are in fact people who get upset about the smallest of infractions from MMO companies.  It isn't just DarkFall, but pretty much every forum.  Granted, Darkfall is probably number one on the crap-list right now... but that will change in time.

Tasos could have handled the situation in a way that only a fraction of those who did or will quit will never return again.  I still think they will reverse their decision on this before July 7th. 

You post on ForumFall as well, do you think this is just a tiny issue that will have minimal impact on DarkFall?   The 3-4 hours queue times are about the only thing that seems to have come close to this magnitude on the Official forums.  If it doesn't blow over by the weekend, I fully expect a reversal announcement from Tasos. 

 

I honestly dont think that there are enough gamers in the world that would stop playing a game they like in order to protest some random promise that was made by a developer.

If there are, then games are over and all we will have is really bad games with great promises but in all reality I think think you WAY over estimate you power

 

Umm... are you completely oblivious to what happened to SWG?   There were quite a few of us that left that game for good when they pulled the NGE despite promises from Devs, and everyone else connected with the game.

SWG never recovered.

 

I think that you over-estimate the loyalty that Aventurine has instilled in DarkFall's NA player-base.  We will see how this plays out over the next 3 months.

I'll still be around and posting 3 months from now.  Feel free to bring this post up and call me on it if I turn out to be wrong.  You might want to go back and check some of my previous posting from before Beta and leading up to the Release though.

downtoearth still owes me on a few "guarantees" from back then. 

Yup i was one of them when NGE came out i left and never looked back and i mean SWG pre-cu was my game i loved it to death.

if NGE didnt happen id still be playing it.