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Originally posted by spector75
i already sent in a troll warning on this post like 20x... they don't care so i guess it will be a good source of useless crap and getting post counts up...
We may have to resort to personal attacks to get this mowed over. :D WARNING! Personal attacks may and probably will grant you a mod warning and or a ban depending on severity. Do not try this at home.
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Originally posted by Cynthe
We may have to resort to personal attacks to get this mowed over. :D WARNING! Personal attacks may and probably will grant you a mod warning and or a ban depending on severity. Do not try this at home.
You're breath stinks... and you live in canada!!
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Originally posted by madeux
We may have to resort to personal attacks to get this mowed over. :D WARNING! Personal attacks may and probably will grant you a mod warning and or a ban depending on severity. Do not try this at home.
You're breath stinks... and you live in canada!!
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Well... welll!! You are.................. SILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good day sir, good day! /stomps away. (,,,)=^__^=(,,,) |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
No. You don't want to read that upping 250% players with NO apparent server growth is NOT possible. And this in 5 weeks time.... The moment of the report above (113 servers for 1 M players) and the moment that idiot posted 3.5 M in one sentence on ign.com. Get over it.
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Lord_Ixigan
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Joined: 3/23/08
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Step 1. Go to google and search , "Aion qeue times in china" step 2. Read the forums about the massive wait times on a lot of the servers. step 3. Realize how much of an idiot you are. step 4. ??? step 5. profit
Let me put it this way so that you can stop missing very obvious stuff. WoW reports ~1.4-ish million players in NA (yes, we're the minority of the entire WoW community). There are only about what? 55 or so servers, maybe less? Using your math there should be about 130 NA servers, which there aren't. So using your logic there are only something like 600k subscribers in WoW NA. Uh oh, Blizzard is lying and inflating their numbers when logic dictates those numbers are wrong! Oh wait....we have market laws that prevent traded companies from doing things like that. These laws are similiar in other markets, especially for a globally traded company like NCsoft. So, Zorn, if you are claiming that NCsoft is lying then you must also admit that Blizzard is lying. Are you calling both of these multi-billion dollar a year companies liars? |
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me i think wow is boaring an there quest system sucks compaird to aion an wow look to cartoonish for me also i think wow will lose sub accounts cause they will be switching to aion peace out |
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162 Server so that just need 22,000player to fill up each server that make 3.5m. I dont think it is so hard to do it. Since aion is a new game. I remember the first 2 week i was playing Aion in china server. I was queue behind 900 player. Sometime took me half hour to get in the game.
BTW i think this thread prove one thing, AIon have more than 3.5M ppl. Thanks to the OP. |
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Originally posted by Nadia Hi, Here are the links for those who said I wasn't right in the first place. First link: the Korean 400K subs were achieved with ....----------> 41 servers. Second link: the Chinese players at launch for 4 days 1.000.000 players were achied with -------- > 113 servers; That makes a total of 1.400.000 (april 2009) with a support of ..... 153 servers back then. About the exact same ratio I was talking about in my OP: 1 server for 10 K subscribers. Exactly the same figures we see with Servers/mmo's in the west (like Wow, War, Lotor) . A ratio of 1 servers for 10K players. See the examples of my OP. No one can deny the info on the links .... -------- Now the .... 1.5 million dollar question: where are the EXTRA servers to host the supposed +2.000.000 players ? Show me the number of added servers and I show you if this game is growing with 250% in 5 weeks or not. For those claiming it was NOT not 10K to 1 server ... reread the above and see for yourself the official links which show exaclty the same ratio for Aion up until April (and Jan for Korea). So??? clearly the extra servers should be there ... Not even talking about the impossible growth of 2.1 Million in 5 weeks time (the time between april and the launch of the link less AU source). So there is no way the 3.5 M is a correct figure. The server number ratio of Aion itself shows the ratio of 10K users to 1 server is correct. That means 160 servers is the equivalent of ... 1.6 M hosted players, not 3.5 M
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I dont care how many subs it has Aion is just a fucking Awesome game.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Hi, Here are the links for those who said I wasn't right in the first place. First link: the Korean 400K subs were achieved with ....----------> 41 servers. Second link: the Chinese players at launch for 4 days 1.000.000 players were achied with -------- > 113 servers; That makes a total of 1.400.000 (april 2009) with a support of ..... 153 servers back then. About the exact same ratio I was talking about in my OP: 1 server for 10 K subscribers. Exactly the same figures we see with Servers/mmo's in the west (like Wow, War, Lotor) . A ratio of 1 servers for 10K players. See the examples of my OP. No one can deny the info on the links .... -------- Now the .... 1.5 million dollar question: where are the EXTRA servers to host the supposed +2.000.000 players ? Show me the number of added servers and I show you if this game is growing with 250% in 5 weeks or not. For those claiming it was NOT not 10K to 1 server ... reread the above and see for yourself the official links which show exaclty the same ratio for Aion up until April (and Jan for Korea). So??? clearly the extra servers should be there ... Not even talking about the impossible growth of 2.1 Million in 5 weeks time (the time between april and the launch of the link less AU source). So there is no way the 3.5 M is a correct figure. The server number ratio of Aion itself shows the ratio of 10K users to 1 server is correct. That means 160 servers is the equivalent of ... 1.6 M hosted players, not 3.5 M
You obviously missed the part about cyber cafes in the article you linked. 400k is the ammount of people playing from their homes in Korea, the number of subscribers is, however, completely different since cyber cafes offer accounts to their users in exchange of a fixed ammount per hour. "Furthermore, it also receives fees from the internet cafe, expecting to mark KRW 12 billion in revenue in January alone. " They receive 8 billions from people who play at home and 4 billion from cybercafes. And that article states a server can host more than 7k users, are you telling me that they are opening 1 server every 10000 users with that condition? Not only that, you're also stating that China, which has triple the ammount of servers of Korea, has only double the numbers. NC Soft said that a server can have 7,000 users concurrently. Considering 200 users waiting for entrance in a server during the weekend, Aion is predicted to have more than 260,000 users concurrently. If you are using links, make sure you read them first.
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Zorndorf no one cares, except you. Is this the worst thing someone can think of to say about Aion? It ONLY has 1.6 million instead of 3.5 million LMAO. I hope Blizzard pays you well.
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Dude OP is obviously a troll. His whole original post is based on one huge assumption. (2k concurrent in all major MMO's? Completely false.) Retired SQL admin? Technology moves at a ridiculous pace. He states it as fact then says in every post, 'Have fun with your korean copycat(while it lasts).' which clearly shows he is emotionally involved and could care less about facts. He ignores anything that blatantly disproves him and keeps taunting you guys. I mean seriously this is a very lame trolling attempt. Stop feeding this guy. You should know better. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Hi, Here are the links for those who said I wasn't right in the first place. First link: the Korean 400K subs were achieved with ....----------> 41 servers. Second link: the Chinese players at launch for 4 days 1.000.000 players were achied with -------- > 113 servers; That makes a total of 1.400.000 (april 2009) with a support of ..... 153 servers back then. About the exact same ratio I was talking about in my OP: 1 server for 10 K subscribers. Exactly the same figures we see with Servers/mmo's in the west (like Wow, War, Lotor) . A ratio of 1 servers for 10K players. See the examples of my OP. No one can deny the info on the links .... -------- Now the .... 1.5 million dollar question: where are the EXTRA servers to host the supposed +2.000.000 players ? Show me the number of added servers and I show you if this game is growing with 250% in 5 weeks or not. For those claiming it was NOT not 10K to 1 server ... reread the above and see for yourself the official links which show exaclty the same ratio for Aion up until April (and Jan for Korea). So??? clearly the extra servers should be there ... Not even talking about the impossible growth of 2.1 Million in 5 weeks time (the time between april and the launch of the link less AU source). So there is no way the 3.5 M is a correct figure. The server number ratio of Aion itself shows the ratio of 10K users to 1 server is correct. That means 160 servers is the equivalent of ... 1.6 M hosted players, not 3.5 M
Didn't you have a /quit in one of your posts a few pages back? You really are spending too much time trying to trash this game and it's subscriber numbers. No matter what you try to prove, it's really not going to deter anyone away from the game. It's in great condition, a lot of people are excited about it and it will most likely be a great success. Sorry to burst your bubble. You might want to move on to another game that doesn't have as much going for it.
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Originally posted by Ephimero
You obviously missed the part about cyber cafes in the article you linked. 400k is the ammount of people playing from their homes in Korea, the number of subscribers is, however, completely different since cyber cafes offer accounts to their users in exchange of a fixed ammount per hour. "Furthermore, it also receives fees from the internet cafe, expecting to mark KRW 12 billion in revenue in January alone. " They receive 8 billions from people who play at home and 4 billion from cybercafes. And that article states a server can host more than 7k users, are you telling me that they are opening 1 server every 10000 users with that condition? Not only that, you're also stating that China, which has triple the ammount of servers of Korea, has only double the numbers. NC Soft said that a server can have 7,000 users concurrently. Considering 200 users waiting for entrance in a server during the weekend, Aion is predicted to have more than 260,000 users concurrently. If you are using links, make sure you read them first.
That's the part that Mr. Z freak here just keeps ignoring... 7000 concurrent users per server. Use that number in his own calculations and suddenly he's completely wrong, and the estimate of 3.5 million is spot on! |
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ronan32
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Originally posted by Xasapis
bullshit, unless you can prove it to me. |
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Umm, yeah nowhere did you say whether that was just counting Korean / Chinese servers.
Also, the fact that you said you have proof that they only have 1.5m subs and then don't give it kinda prooves you're just here to troll. ------------------------------
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Ramonski7
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Joined: 5/21/03
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Very interesting indeed. I'm in the Aion beta and didn't have a hard time getting in, but i did have a curious experience when I did go to purchase a pre-order. The employees at the first Best Buy I went to didn't know what I was talking about when I asked for the game (This was after I checked the racks). But in fairness they don't know crap about games to begin with so I knew I'd be forced to head to a spec shop. Curious thing is when I went to Gamestop, the guy I placed my pre-order with didn't even know about the game either and I had to ask him to look for the promo box for the beta. Also when I was there I didn't see any posters, displays or advertisement for Aion inside.
A week later I'm in the same Best Buy and I noticed that they had plenty of copies for the pre-order now. I told my wife that they must have checked after I inquiried about it the first time. I asked my wife if she wanted a copy and she politely declined.
The point is all these talks of server caps vs subbers is pointless for us here. A tidal wave 100 ft high heading from Asia to America would only be a ripple by the time it reach someone walking the beaches of Cali. You can hype it all you want, but unless the demand for it here is already high (which doesn't seem like it to me), then the only purpose subbers there will give westerners is steady patches and onging support for the lucky few of us that will be playing if the tsunami ever does start.  "Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas." |
Originally posted by Ramonski7 Hype ?? |
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Originally posted by Ramonski7 I dont know where you live but ive been talking about this game and others as well with best buy employees for sometime and a friend of mine pre ordered Aion from the local gamestop 3 weeks ago. Your analogy of the tidal wave was witty but not exactly on track from what im seeing on the web and as said at the brick and mortar stores in my area. It has to be true, i have internet links. |
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My wife and I have been frequenting the same Gamestop for 4 years and have built up a really good relationship with the employees as well as the management. When we went in to preorder AION it was suggested that we grab the CE while we still had a chance as they are getting a bit thin. Now, if it would have been any other place I would have thought it to be an employee "Hyping to Up Sell". While I have a hard time believing that AION will "Kill WoW" here in the western market, I do think it has the potential to do better than previous offerings such as WAR, AoC, LotRO .. you get the drift lol. |
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Originally posted by Ramonski7
MMOs are still not mainstream enough for people to know whenever a new one comes out. Basically if it's not WoW it's not something most people know about including game shop clerks. The people at my local EB games didn't know what Aion was either the first time I called them after a month of phoning them every week they did.... ^_^ (,,,)=^__^=(,,,) |
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Ramonski7
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Originally posted by grandpagamer I dont know where you live but ive been talking about this game and others as well with best buy employees for sometime and a friend of mine pre ordered Aion from the local gamestop 3 weeks ago. Your analogy of the tidal wave was witty but not exactly on track from what im seeing on the web and as said at the brick and mortar stores in my area.
One click of my name would have given you that info. But just in case you do not feel like doing that, Aurora, Illinois is the second largest city in Illinois next to Chicago. We are about 30-45 mins from downtown Chicago. So again, yes I was curiously surprised when 2 of the stores I frequent did not know about Aion or the beta offer.
This is not to say i wish it to fail, quite the contrary, I pre-ordered the CE and will be making my purchase with no regrets. Basicly all I'm saying is hype or not, I'm just you're average joe that enjoys playing well-made, polished MMOs. And if it happens that a enough players enjoy the same and warrants NCSoft keeping US servers open until I can explore Aion for a few months, then I sir am a happy camper.
I really doubt that any player in his or her right mind would pledge their undying loyalty to one single gaming company for their entire gaming experience but to witness some people here further focusing that blind loyalty for a single game........intriguing. "Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas." |
Originally posted by Cynthe
MMOs are still not mainstream enough for people to know whenever a new one comes out. Basically if it's not WoW it's not something most people know about including game shop clerks. The people at my local Gamestop didn't know what Aion was either the first time I called them after a month of phoning them every week they did.... ^_^
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Had a flash of AoC.. 1million playing! Its like looking up and seening "members:1,064,293" for mmorpg. Yet how many of them are still here posting? Aion may have 3.5 or even more.. yet we dont know if that is the number from launch till today .. lmao I'm seeing a add for Runes of Magic .. 1mil +.. Free Realms.. 3m+ thats where Aion is.. As for how much can there servers hold? We read some here believe every single word that NCsoft says. The only MMO that tells the truth! Your talking NCSOFT.. these guys didnt go buy the best servers.. the newest TECH. This thread shows us the same thing. It has page after page of NEW posts.. wow look how many love AION.. AION is going to ROCK! Now go back and see how many post are the same people just talking back and forth But really ..whats the problem here? We will never know the ture numbers of any MMO. So what if millions play Aion? NCSOFT has a hit now so? Good for them! They needed it. When you start tossing out numbers that cant be proved.. you make yourself look very silly. No mmo shows you the SUB's that are paying right then and there.. wont happen. Each has to SELL the game ... |
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Originally posted by Zeblade while some of the later stuff you said (that I didnt quote) has truth...
what I did quote is twisted
AOC never had 1million playing -- Funcom only claimed they shipped 1 million copies of the game to the retailers
ROM and FR are free-to-play games have no context when compared to p2p mmos |
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