I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

Edit:  and yeah, AoC.  My advise, avoid it like the plague.

Originally posted by Esquire1980

I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

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As in Age of Conan?

Sorry was just confused you didn't mention which game and you posted in SWG

Not sure if that many people will be butt-hurt by Conan being totally revamped and changed.  Game was ok at launch when I played but nothing to mourne if everything changed, IMO at least.

edit: yeah I just realized maybe he isn't talking about Conan, I wouldn't know cause I don't follow it anymore. If its AO he's talking about, I have no comment, never played it.

nothing to see here....move along!

You can't kill that which is already dead.

We are all very glad that you are still carrying that baggage around with you but you seem to be letting it confuse you as to which forum this belongs in.

Originally posted by Carl132p

We are all very glad that you are still carrying that baggage around with you but you seem to be letting it confuse you as to which forum this belongs in.

My guess is that this is a friendly warning to people who have already gone through 1, 2 or 3 complete live game revamps in SWG.
 

Generally large scale revamps of live games are a pain in the ass to existing players.  They also tend to follow really bad releases, and appear to be acts of desperation on the part of MMO companies to breathe life into a dying game that should have never been released in such piss poor condition.

So, to the O.P., I hear ya bro.  I've been kind of waiting for this since AoC released in such a bad state, missing some of its advertised features--very much like SWG (and Vanguard incidentally).

All the games I would play at this point are functional, enjoyable, and appear to value customer satisfaction and feedback.  I don't see a lot of that, generally, with SOE or Funcom.  Blizzard still tops my list of intelligent service providers.

At least in this case players had fair warning this was taking place. It was for the most part void of shady practice, they have also encouraged players to test it and give feedback through the course of making these changes, they  handled it a lot better than the nge or orginal curb-cu episode.

Originally posted by Kyleran

You can't kill that which is already dead.

hahahahah!

Originally posted by Esquire1980

I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

Edit:  and yeah, AoC.  My advise, avoid it like the plague.

ROFL! You guys are so sad that I almost begin to feel pitty for you guys.

NOT!

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Seriously, you cannot even phantom the big difference between the 1.05 patch of AoC and the NGE with SWG.

NGE on SWG was announced only 24 hours upfront to the whole world and then just hammered through our troats with no mercy! Skill system being ripped away! Classes being ripped away!

The changes in 1.05 are NOTHING like that!!

Patch 1.05 has been announced months and months ago. And on top of that, it has been available on the Public Test Server for 2 months!!

Every subscribed player had the ability to log on to PTS and test all the changes themselves and provide feedback on the special PTS forums for 2 months!!

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So that you guys even try to compaire those two makes me laugh and just shows how deep you guys have drown yourself in your eternal pre-NGE SWG missery, that you don't even notice anymore what is actually going on outside you little grudge balloon.

Cheers

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Esquire1980

I'll be damned if I go thru another 1.  I should have known when it took 2 hours to download the patch.  Everything CHANGED, expertise, combat, dps, equipment, armor rating, etc, etc, etc, right on down the line.  This game wasn't even as good as SWG was in the befores. 

Someday, someone, is going to get my gameing dollars again but it sure will not be SOE or Funcom.

Edit:  and yeah, AoC.  My advise, avoid it like the plague.

 

ROFL! You guys are so sad that I almost begin to feel pitty for you guys.

 

 

NOT!

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Seriously, you cannot even phantom the big difference between the 1.05 patch of AoC and the NGE with SWG.

NGE on SWG was announced only 24 hours upfront to the whole world and then just hammered through our troats with no mercy! Skill system being ripped away! Classes being ripped away!

The changes in 1.05 are NOTHING like that!!

Patch 1.05 has been announced months and months ago. And on top of that, it has been available on the Public Test Server for 2 months!!

Every subscribed player had the ability to log on to PTS and test all the changes themselves and provide feedback on the special PTS forums for 2 months!!

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So that you guys even try to compaire those two makes me laugh and just shows how deep you guys have drown yourself in your eternal pre-NGE SWG missery, that you don't even notice anymore what is actually going on outside you little grudge balloon.

Cheers

You should direct your pity towards the OP instead of "you guys". You disagree with him..not any group of people that use this forum. Seems we arent the only ones who have grudges huh?

The difference between CU and 1.5 is that the former was planned behind-the-scenes without the majority of the playerbase knowing what's in store for them, and the latter was asked by the playerbase since day one. Seriously, 1.5 was needed, and it is a major step in finally bringing the game out of beta phase. OP - you do realize that the statistics didn't actually work before, and that gear was overall useless, right? Kkthxbai

The new RPG stuff takes time to get used to but I have no complaints so far. Tarantia Commons has enough content to choke a horse and it's not 'do it once and never replay' type stuff, but has lots of variations and routes and results.

You are not alone. Go look what happened to AO this week.

I must be the only one that thinks the changes in AoC are decent. 
I'm happy that gear makes some kind of sense.   I'm happy with my somewhat increased survivability (I play an Assassin).I'm more of a PvE player than a PvP player these days.  (Guess I've 'grown up' )

I just see the latest patch as a nice "fix" for a lot of things.    This of course all should have been in the game since the start, but hey, a year + paid beta... It's all good.    

I'm OK so far with everything except for some unjust nerfs to HoX.   My Alt is a HoX,  I can't kill a damn thing.

Originally posted by sigurd57

I must be the only one that thinks the changes in AoC are decent. 
I'm happy that gear makes some kind of sense.   I'm happy with my somewhat increased survivability (I play an Assassin).I'm more of a PvE player than a PvP player these days.  (Guess I've 'grown up' )

I just see the latest patch as a nice "fix" for a lot of things.    This of course all should have been in the game since the start, but hey, a year + paid beta... It's all good.    

I'm OK so far with everything except for some unjust nerfs to HoX.   My Alt is a HoX,  I can't kill a damn thing.

 

 

I was going to say the same thing. I don't think it matters that changes are made as long as the changes are good changes. There is no point in keeping a system that doesn't work. What is the sense in that?

There is a difference between overhauling game systems that can't quite cut it and actually changing a game that is completely different than what was sold to customers.

I highly doubt that makeing item properties more clear to the player would be a deal breaker to anyone following the game when it was being developed.

"What? They are changing how stats work on items? Forget it! That's a deal breaker, time to follow another game".

Just doesn't ring true.

IMO this was a much needed patch!

Lots of stuff has been streamlined. Classes balance  is a little better. Gemcutting made easier. etc etc. This is not even close to NGE by any stretch!

 I love the changes.

Also IMO this is what the game should have been at launch.

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As gaeanprayer mentioned, my purpose for playing games has changed.
I technically blame WoW arenas for killing "pvp joy" for me.

I'm not getting into the details of that, but I've tried to play on the PvP server on AoC, and I just don't have the time or patience anymore to keep up with the people who really have nothing better do to. (read that how you will, but it is neither insulting, nor complaining on how people want to play their games..)
 

The OP's comparison between this update and the SWGNGE is flawed at best.  First off, most SWG players liked it the way it was, and the NGE blindsided them.  Most AoC players, even the ones that have stuck with the game, would agree that its needed a mechanical overhaul since launch.

Funcom kept what was good about the game, the graphics/sound/production values and the setting, and tweaked the rest.  They've also been very upfront about the fact that major changes were coming, unlike SOE/LA prior to the NGE.

I'm happy to hear about this patch finally coming out, I had been waiting for it while I was playing but didn't last long enough.

I'll be waiting to see if vets get any free time this summer and if not I will have to resub and check it out.