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These "kill WoW" threads need to stop. I'm not a fan of WoW, no particular reason it's just not something I ever really got into (but I have no grudge against those who do enjoy it) but I do enjoy Aion. A lot. That being said, I still don't think it will kill WoW, for the same reason that WoW did not kill EQ or Ultima, for the same reason that Champions Online will not kill City of Heroes; there will always be players, people who like to stick to the older games and older ways.
I do think Aion will have a significant impact on western gaming, and will likely pull a lot of subs because of it's balance in both casual and hardcore gaming, but no single game is ever going to shut down the servers of WoW, or any other game for that matter. And don't forget, WoW2 has been mentioned as a very real possibility in the future, when WoW's expansions have exhausted most ideas.
Touting stuff like 'Aion kills WoW' just hurts people's opinions of the game and does exactly the opposite of what you were aiming to do. |
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We always read this about a new MMO coming out. I like how 1st post says 3.5m then later 6m. Yet we all know MMO's lie about who many play. We never read 3.5 m SUBS as of RIGHT NOW! Yet looking back post after post said blah blah mmo will KILL WOW! Freerealms post 3.5 million playing. Oh and we ALL know most here are reg and playing .. well SOE says we are.. LMAO.. So Aion or any other mmo for that matter would have to 4+ years later have 9-11 million playing then come say its killed WOW. Even if Aion had 15million playing now.. it didnt kill WOW.. Yet we also know Blizzard could care less anymore. They are looking ahead not behind. Aion is to small, has that free to play feel all over it. two starting areas, one for each side that lamo are mirror images of the other. The graphics engine is already dated (old) for a NEW mmo .. how sad is that. In the official forums haha we read post from gold sellers. NCSOFT lacks the power, money to stop hacks, chat, blah blah in ANY of there other mmos, GMs? Yeah .. Aion will be different huh.. But if you like the game great PAY and play it...
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Originally posted by IronZ
Hehe, now that's funny.
Wrath isn't out over there yet, is it? I imagine that has something to do with it too. The high Aion numbers I mean. I'm not big into PvP so Aion offers nothing for me.... bummer. Z
Also, you can play and enjoy Aion from beginning to end and never set foot in the Abyss or random pvp zones, though you might be unfortunate enough to be in an area that randomly spawns a portal from time to time. Other than portals (which keep each race temporary access to the other side) which are rare and random, PvP is not something thrown in your face. It's a very large part of the game, yes, but the gear you get from PvPing in the Abyss is ~MADE~ for PvP. Go to the Aion Armoury and look at the Abyss gear, you'll see that it's made specifically for PvP with lower stats but a % bonus to attacks against PCs (player characters), meaning you will not be gimped against monsters or PvE content if you don't use PvP gear. In fact, PvP gear is actually worse for PvE content than the gear you get from crafting which, except for extremely rare and unique gear, is the most powerful equipment currently available.
So, if you're not into PvP, no worries. The game is designed to appeal to the masses, PvP is entirely optional. |
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Originally posted by Zeblade
Your post lacks sense for many reasons. First off, there are billions of people in this world, and while online gaming doesn't stretch to the majority of that, it encompasses enough in this day and age that 3 million subs here and there shouldn't be a surprise. It's actually a very small number in the scheme of things. America alone (if I remember correctly) holds about 1/6th of the world's population, and thanks to games like WoW many people not previously into gaming have come to embrace it.
Secondly, Aion is hardly small. That you would even suggest that makes it obvious you played, at most, the beta tests which limit your level and the places you can go, as these are purely designed to stress test, test localization and to give people a 'taste' of the game, not the entire thing. The starting zones are large enough to be their own maps, and as for there being "only two" there are only two races...why would you need more starting areas for that? You're not supposed to be in a starting zone for very long. It's just...the start. Not sure why that would be a complaint. As for posts from gold sellers in the official forums, that's curious since Aion does not yet have any official forums. If you're referring to the asian version of the game, they're not very good at controlling gold sellers so that should not come as a surprise. I'll grant you NCSoft has a bad reputation with bots and gold sellers though, I can only hope it doesn't go the way of L2, but since Aion is designed with more accessability (less grind for exp/items/gold) everyone is more than able to achieve their goals on their own so I don't think there will be as much DEMAND for services from outside sources.
As for dated graphics, not going to bother going there. |
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Why is there a need to kill WOW? Just relax and let Blizzard continue to do it... WOW will still be around after all the aion/lineage-alike be dead and buried, in others words....2 or 3 years. Why do ppl only see numbers? OMG WOW has 12m ppl playin, im gonna play WOW! Take a look at EVE, all those happy 50.000 ppl playing and having fun, i dont play WOW because it has 999m players or because has drop from the 1m barrier. I play it because is by far the best mmorpg out there! So, "will i still play WOW" after aion is out? U bet i will! |
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This game isn't going to kill WoW. TOR isn't going to kill WoW. Aion, and I don't mean this in a bad way, is too much like the other Asian games I've played. Why pay when I came play the same crap for free. Could be part of the reason it's doing really good over there. Over here I think it'll be a totally different story. The only things that will kill WoW are time or Blizzards new MMO. They may sell a lot of boxes, but so did WAR, Conan, etc.
Question 2: I don't play WoW no, so I wouldn't continue anything. Disclaimer: Nothing was meant as trolling. I just pre-ordered Aion a few days ago. I'm willing to give it a fair shake on release. |
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So one game get's more subscriptions than another, it automatically kills it? I don't understand. Why isn't Everquest dead? Or any other MMO for that matter? The prospect of a game competeing with WoW is interesting however. But, I won't play it because it's more popular. What a stupid reason to leave a game. Most people play WoW because of the low requirements and the ease-of-play. I'm personally sick of fantasy games all together. So just because the rest of the herd is flocking to it, doesn't mean I will mindlessly follow. |
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kasta
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Joined: 5/30/03
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I pre-ordered Aion and you couldn't pay me to play WoW but Aion will never kill WoW. Nothing will kill WoW except Blizzard. Too many people like it. Too much money is flooding in for Blizzard to kill it so WoW will always be around. Get used to it. |
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I stopped playing WoW about a month ago. Went back to UO. |
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Originally posted by Chobzor
No, it's not killing anything. That implies that it will then "kill" it.
Even if WoW lost half of it's subscribers (which I highly doubt as though Aion has its fans, myself included, there are many people who don't like it) it would still have millions of subscribers. If games like EQ, UO and DAOC are still around after all these years I highly suspect that WoW won't be "killed'. |
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Originally posted by Mequellios
Exactly. Thank you. |
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On one hand posts like this that are designed to do nothing other than cause flame wars are generally ignorant and silly, but on the other hand listening to fan boys' constant praise is just as tedious but having neither would only leave intelligent and courteous debate and we certainly couldn't have that.
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Man, I'd love to be a Blizzard developer. It must be even more f' funny to read reports about this mystical BS of killing WoW when you actually make money by working in the game. But since I'm not, I could care less. Meanwhile, WoW 3.2 (or 3.3, I don't remember, it's the next patch that is on PTR) actually got my attention. And I'm also going to play Aion when it is released. Why such fanatism in defending/attacking games you don't gain a single cent on? |
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correct Q is: What will you do >>> IF <<< Aion kills WoW? my Answ: I will play top10 MMORPG.com games always :P btw Aion can not kill nothing, with this 2-3 years BETAs and Promotions period the players start be mistrusters :))) ...and i think NCSoft have doubt about Aion power ;) One great game not need to be promoted and tested 2-3 years to be great. (example Atlantica) |
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You're right, it wont kill WoW cause even with 300K players it can stay alive ! Let's say Aion will take the first place. |
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lmao lmao please this is the same outfit that ran tabula rasa lol lol........oooo i love these forums |
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Originally posted by Beermangler
LOL @! Beermangler. Why do you assume all asians are blood elves and gold beggers? That's the stupidest shit I've heard when talking about asians and MMOs. Gold farmers aren't going to leave WoW because of Aion either, that's stupid. If they've been infesting F2P games, why the hell would they leave WoW? As for Aion killing WoW... It won't happen. If it does, I will be amazed. |
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Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Also, you can play and enjoy Aion from beginning to end and never set foot in the Abyss or random pvp zones, though you might be unfortunate enough to be in an area that randomly spawns a portal from time to time. Other than portals (which keep each race temporary access to the other side) which are rare and random, PvP is not something thrown in your face. It's a very large part of the game, yes, but the gear you get from PvPing in the Abyss is ~MADE~ for PvP. Go to the Aion Armoury and look at the Abyss gear, you'll see that it's made specifically for PvP with lower stats but a % bonus to attacks against PCs (player characters), meaning you will not be gimped against monsters or PvE content if you don't use PvP gear. In fact, PvP gear is actually worse for PvE content than the gear you get from crafting which, except for extremely rare and unique gear, is the most powerful equipment currently available.
So, if you're not into PvP, no worries. The game is designed to appeal to the masses, PvP is entirely optional.
Really? Now that would be nice. God knows I need something to play right now! lol. I thought it was mostly PvP after level 20 or so. I guess I should spend more time looking into it, hehe. Thanks for the heads up! Z http://www.TheIronZ.com |
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Originally posted by Kram59
You know, I've been asking myself that question for a long time since I'm someone who often switches between a handful of MMOs depending on my mood; however, my so-called "friends" within these MMOs treat me as if I'm some sort of a criminal every time I "defect to the enemy." For example, when I wanted to try WAR when it launched, my WoW guild nearly quit speaking to me. I even asked one of my guildmates why she cared so much since I would come back eventually anyway, and she stated that WoW was the only MMO in which she felt that "accomplishments" held any intrinsic value (*facepalms*) and couldn't understand why I'd want to leave. (Whatever happened to playing a game for "fun"?) I told her that it's a merely game and she needs to take a step back, but some people are so absorbed that they become delusional, and this is why they become polarized in their opinions when it comes to playing an MMO (the colloquial "fanboy" mentality), and so they continue to play the game even when it loses its luster, refusing to even try another game. (This doesn't apply to everyone, but definitely to some individuals, such as the woman I described. She even admitted that she would like to play another game, but that she felt it would be "wrong" to do so. She also sacrificed attending college for the sake of the game, in addition to quitting her job at one point. Okaaay.)
Basically, I believe that certain individuals who play MMOs seem to view them in the same manner as some social institutions (e.g. college or professional sports), which engenders extreme feelings of motivation, competitiveness, loyalty (hence the inability to try another MMO), etcetera. While I think that anjyone who engages in playing an MMO does so for socialization (e.g. someone who seeks to cultivate friendships) and/or competitive purposes (yes, I realize that competition is a form of socialization, but it's not quite the same as forming an association of "friends" in some people's minds), the obsessive player takes all of this to the next level, to the point where the video game is no longer a game, but a true "virtual" version of reality in their minds.
When I purchased an Xbox 360 a few months ago, I kind of laughed at the thought of becoming as obsessed with a console game as some people are with an MMO, but in reality, I don't see how progress in one type of video game is more inherently valuable than another -- it should be based upon the enjoyment which we derive from playing a game. Eventually all of these MMOs will shut down and we'll be left with nothing but our memories of playing anyway (it's not as if we're being paid a salary to play them, unlike professional sports), so why not play something which is enjoyable at least? (Note that I'm just stating my opinion, so don't start bitching at me, asking for a statistical quotes, okay?) All right; I've digressed enough here, but the last thing I'd like to say in relation to the OP is that he/she is obviously trolling, which is why I won't even deign to make a comment about the topic.
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Originally posted by IronZ
Also, you can play and enjoy Aion from beginning to end and never set foot in the Abyss or random pvp zones, though you might be unfortunate enough to be in an area that randomly spawns a portal from time to time. Other than portals (which keep each race temporary access to the other side) which are rare and random, PvP is not something thrown in your face. It's a very large part of the game, yes, but the gear you get from PvPing in the Abyss is ~MADE~ for PvP. Go to the Aion Armoury and look at the Abyss gear, you'll see that it's made specifically for PvP with lower stats but a % bonus to attacks against PCs (player characters), meaning you will not be gimped against monsters or PvE content if you don't use PvP gear. In fact, PvP gear is actually worse for PvE content than the gear you get from crafting which, except for extremely rare and unique gear, is the most powerful equipment currently available.
So, if you're not into PvP, no worries. The game is designed to appeal to the masses, PvP is entirely optional.
Really? Now that would be nice. God knows I need something to play right now! lol. I thought it was mostly PvP after level 20 or so. I guess I should spend more time looking into it, hehe. Thanks for the heads up! Z
I don't feel good talking about Aion in the WoW forums, but what he said seems true according to the new Q&A on Aion http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200906/N09.0624.1142.34905.htm?Page=1 Abyss is a PvPvE area, but on your own continents you will also find high-level PvE content in which the PvP is much more restricted (the Rifts limit the transition of enemy players in quantity, maximum level and luck of finding an open rift, so it's not a simple gank fest as you'd find in most of the MMOs around that have a need for PvP-limited servers or Free-PvP servers, like WoW in this case). You can actually have an enjoyable experience in Aion without living in the Abyss.
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People really need to stop waiting for WoW killers. The only thing that will kill WoW is people playing it and deciding they don't like it. Personally i wouldn't mind WoW taking the people they have and living forever and keeping most of them out of my current mmo. Aion is going to be a great game, WoW will live for a long long time, and almost nothing will change that. On a side note if you choose to play a game simply for the amount of people subscribed to it then you have a horrible way of picking a games. |
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Lmao. Aion won't kill WoW. Neither will The Old Republic. And guess what, neither will whatever next-gen MMO Blizzard is working on. Too many people are entrenched in WoW and enjoying it. They're not going to jump ship for the new bright/shiny because they're not game-hoppers and they have years invested in their WoW experience. There is no WoW-killer. |
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Originally posted by Chobzor
what are you going to do when FF kills aion? and no, its not going to kill anything.. |
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Originally posted by veritas_X
only time and maybe wow willl ever kill wow. |
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Originally posted by WOWthatsucks
what are you going to do when FF kills aion? and no, its not going to kill anything..
I'll play FF if this game is better. See I'm not an Aion fanboi. |
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