This is a classic and disappointing Aventurine move for those that might have carried over to the North American server.

Not only do those that want to play on a NA server have to re-purchase the client for $50, for those that rather wait 3 months for a character transfer, are going to be hit with a transfer fee that, I bet the farm, will be no different than had that player purchased a new client.

This is rich.

is normal because there will be other publisher and u cant acces the US servers from EU or the EU from US

It s bloody pathetic, I was going to re sub when NA server opened, no way in hell will I now. I m sure alot of future subs they could have had will go boom now.

Originally posted by cosy

is normal because there will be other publisher and u cant acces the US servers from EU or the EU from US

They should have said they would be charging from the get go.
They didn't.

It's not the money.
It's the feeling as if Av is scamming people.

Rofl!

This farce just won't stop!

I used to defend AV from all you, the MMORPG community.  Fuck was I ever wrong.

/cancel

To top it off:  I was wrong, you guys were right.

It's a smart move for them to charge again, most of the player base will complain but in the end they'll still pay.....and AV could use the cash influx.

Smart business move on their part, for sure.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

It's a smart move for them to charge again, most of the player base will complain but in the end they'll still pay.....and AV could use the cash influx.

Smart business move on their part, for sure.

 

must be a SOE moment then

Originally posted by Hammertime1

It's a smart move for them to charge again, most of the player base will complain but in the end they'll still pay.....and AV could use the cash influx.

Smart business move on their part, for sure.

 

I ll bet you re wrong. Pissing people off isn t a smart business move ever.

Originally posted by Ruyn

I used to defend AV from all you, the MMORPG community.  Fuck was I ever wrong.

/cancel

To top it off:  I was wrong, you guys were right.

TBH, I expected some gloating from Darkfall defenders over the official NA server launch date after critics said it would never happen, but after reading threads here and on the official forums, it's probably a good thing they don't.

The DF boards are exploding.

This will accually work out for me. 

I thought i was going to have to delete my EU character, since its only one character per account. 

Since he is already a decent character I can just sell him and make a new account.

I guess its one way to keep the EU server alive.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

It's a smart move for them to charge again, most of the player base will complain but in the end they'll still pay.....and AV could use the cash influx.

Smart business move on their part, for sure.

 

I agree with the others.

It will no doubt gain them a small windfall of cash because yes... some will re-purchase to play on the NA server. 

In the long run though they just put the final nail in the coffin themselves. 

At this time of all-time low population they did NOT need even more bad PR. 

They did NOT need a good number of their supporters to turn on them and join the ranks of the critics/haters. 

With this move that is exactly what they did. 

Put a fork in DarkFall... they are done. 

Originally posted by Hammertime1

It's a smart move for them to charge again, most of the player base will complain but in the end they'll still pay.....and AV could use the cash influx.

Smart business move on their part, for sure.

 

Alienating your consumer base is never smart business.

Maybe some people don't get it.
Not everone is worried about the money. 
Av is working with intent.  They didn't just decide to charge, they KNEW they would be charging.  They said nothing for 4 months, and invited NA players to buy the game cause we could just transfer when a new server opened.  They change the info on the FAQ from one character per server to per account, after the magority of sales had gone through. 

They did this with intent. 
It's misleading.
It's not the money.  It's the feeling of being scammed.

 Hopefully by the time it lauches, ill have a job, my comp upgraded etc. Sold my EU account, so this works out perfect for me.

You know, I never bothered to get in the middle of this stuff on the forums here.  I bought the game and liked it and thought all the haters here were just a bunch of gits, and tho some still are, now i just feel... scammed.

I used to stick up for DF to my friends.  I was wrong, they were right, fuck this company and it's game.

 Theres a clarification.

If you wait 3 months, you will be transfered (with a fee) but you will not need to buy the client again.

Originally posted by Teiman

 Theres a clarification.

If you wait 3 months, you will be transfered (with a fee) but you will not need to buy the client again.

It still isn t right. Waiting 3 months then a transfer fee, lol it s a scam all around. To justify this is pathetic.

Nope, it's down right fucking retarded.

Originally posted by Ruyn

Nope, it's down right fucking retarded.

It's not, it's brilliant.

Look, with a waiting period of eight years of snail-slow development  and a release which featured only about 30% of the features that they promised in place, AV must have looked around and said..."Wow, these guys will put up with *anything* and still give us money".

And with that mindset, you don't have to worry about PR or the such, you've already been able to prove to yourself that your fans will put up with anything, and that's the time to go into "get every dime out of those players" mode.

Sounds harsh, but they have a chance to line their pockets, and they should jump at the chance.

Remember the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted".

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by Ruyn

Nope, it's down right fucking retarded.

 

It's not, it's brilliant.

 

Look, with a waiting period of eight years of snail-slow development  and a release which featured only about 30% of the features that they promised in place, AV must have looked around and said..."Wow, these guys will put up with *anything* and still give us money".

And with that mindset, you don't have to worry about PR or the such, you've already been able to prove to yourself that your fans will put up with anything, and that's the time to go into "get every dime out of those players" mode.

 

Sounds harsh, but they have a chance to line their pockets, and they should jump at the chance.

Remember the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted".

I think though, the people that couldn t wait to play this game have already bought. Some avid freaks will buy again, but it will in the end be a HUGE negative to them and eventually will be their undoing. Bad practice will come back to bite you everytime.

"Darkfall will be charging North American customers twice"???

Umm.. ok.. really there must be something wrong with your skills about understanding plain written text. It very clearly says that you can play your old character in american server after the transfer progress is done, but  if you want to roll new character to play american server at launch you must get new american copy for it.

Otherwise its not bad news at all, major expansion update (erm, what ever that's going to be) is on the way and new members only forums sounds cool. Hehe, i still love that nerdrage what's going on today.. People whine for news over and over and when it comes they go freaking nuts..Every time Tasos opens his mouth somethings explodes.. lol priceless.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by Ruyn

Nope, it's down right fucking retarded.

 

It's not, it's brilliant.

 

Look, with a waiting period of eight years of snail-slow development  and a release which featured only about 30% of the features that they promised in place, AV must have looked around and said..."Wow, these guys will put up with *anything* and still give us money".

And with that mindset, you don't have to worry about PR or the such, you've already been able to prove to yourself that your fans will put up with anything, and that's the time to go into "get every dime out of those players" mode.

 

Sounds harsh, but they have a chance to line their pockets, and they should jump at the chance.

Remember the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted".

It's brilliant if they plan to lose subscriptions, not everyone will tolerate charges for a character transfer, or pay for another "client", unless major changes to it are provided beforehand. It's like the developers are shooting themselves on their collective feet... but with a grenade launcher.

Originally posted by Ruyn

I used to defend AV from all you, the MMORPG community.  Fuck was I ever wrong.

/cancel

To top it off:  I was wrong, you guys were right.

This is EXACTLY how I feel. I feel like I just got fucking betrayed.

I'll never give AV another cent. They can join the list with SOE and Valve of companies that will never EVER get my money again.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by Ruyn

Nope, it's down right fucking retarded.

 

It's not, it's brilliant.

 

Look, with a waiting period of eight years of snail-slow development  and a release which featured only about 30% of the features that they promised in place, AV must have looked around and said..."Wow, these guys will put up with *anything* and still give us money".

And with that mindset, you don't have to worry about PR or the such, you've already been able to prove to yourself that your fans will put up with anything, and that's the time to go into "get every dime out of those players" mode.

 

Sounds harsh, but they have a chance to line their pockets, and they should jump at the chance.

Remember the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted".

I don't pretend to know how many of the "I quit!!" posts on the official forums are really subscribers or really will quit after the anger fades, but so far, there isn't much defending of this move.