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The War Herald has announced that EA has decided to reorganize its RPG and MMO studios. Mythic Entertainment and Bioware (including Austin and Edmonton) will now be led as a group by BioWare Co-Founder Ray Muzyka. Mark Jacobs, the former CEO and General Manager of Mythic, has left the company as of June 23rd, 2009. Mythic's Rob Denton will replace Jacobs as General Manager at Mythic and report directly to Muzyka. When contacted, representatives at Mythic Entertainment had no comment at this time.
Get it from the horse's mouth Cheers, |
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Really sad news... |
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Hmm wonder what is going to happen with WAR. Who knows, maybe it can turn into something alot better ? |
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Lobotomist
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Joined: 5/20/07
I got so much |
RIP Bioware, and Mythic
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pandrax
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Joined: 7/17/04
The gates of Hell are open night and day; smooth the descent and easy is the way. |
Originally posted by ProfRed
..........For BioWare.... I would not want to be merged with mythic. Ah well.. things like this happens, I don't see why they didn't just get rid of mythic all together though. ~ ~ Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. |
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Scalebane
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Joined: 10/28/06
Yours is not the path of force, though force is often needed to clear the path. |
Once again EA the destroyer of game companies rears its ugly head....*sigh* When will companies learn to stay away from them.
We are all ignorant until truth is revealed to us.. However.. How do we know the truth is not in fact a lie.. "When a man has lost everything, he may despair and die. He might give his soul to the fate's... or, he can resolve to take action." "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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They're still making the same type of MMOs, none of which I'm very interested in, so...it doesn't really matter I guess is what I'm getting at. When they offer up a moderinzed AC-esque, UO-esque type MMO...then it'll be worth talking about.
So, does this mean WAR was not the success EA wanted? Is RvR not the successful system they thought? Or was it just the way it was implemented as people loved it in DAoC? Should some serious thought be given, now...finally...to modernizing some older forumlas like DAoC, AC, UO, by a larger AAA company as they were popular for their time? Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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Originally posted by pandrax
..........For BioWare.... I would not want to be merged with mythic. Ah well.. things like this happens, I don't see why they didn't just get rid of mythic all together though.
For Mythic, for BioWare, and for all of us who at one time enjoyed the creativity, innovation, and originality of either company or the titles they put out over their lifetime. |
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I won't go as far as saying anything about WAR's future, but with this merge, I can definitely understand why GW is so damn reluctant to put their franchises into outside hands. Everytime they break into stuff like MMOs, they get plagued by bad/dodgy news. WAR, after all, wasn't the first attempt at a Warhammer Fantasy MMO... |
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All i can say is... what the???? Maybe Mark will join up with Brad for the next mmo....
edit: name... RIP, Orc Choppa |
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It makes sense in a lot of ways to have the resources aligned this way.
I feel like I read more into the statement ... but I'll shut up on that.
Not sure I had the best feelings about Mark Jacobs over the last year. However, DAoC was one very enjoyable experience for many years. So I'll thank him for that and wish him the best. Being able to choose the skills you want to use, offers much less variety than pre-made class based systems. -Future Game Developer |
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A minor correction, merge was probably the wrong word in the original headline. It appears, although we're following up, that each will continue to operate, but rather than Mythic reporting back to EA, they will be part of a group within EA manager by one of Bioware's Co-Founders. |
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Originally posted by korvass ...and in my opinion the direction that other company was taking with the Warhammer game they were making was a better one. It, artiscally, was darker, grittier and just seemed more in tune with the Old World that GW trys to portray in it's lore writing. Then it's as if someone stepped in and said "Hey, that doesn't look like WoW. We need it to look more like WoW. They have 10 million subscribers. that's what's "popular" right now. Make it look more like WoW." So they yanked it from the other company and gave it to Mythic who could make it...well... look more like WoW.
Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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Originally posted by Dana
Ah, well that changes things somewhat, but you're not the only one making this mistake, there are other threads making the same claim. I'm afraid, for now, damage is done. I Reject your Reality and Substitute it with My Own! |
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Originally posted by Dana
Something else to find out if you can is MJ leaving or was he fired?? Assassin's like to do it in the dark and from behind. |
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Originally posted by WeaponX
Something else to find out if you can is MJ leaving or was he fired??
I believe its ask to leave, but they would use the terms, parted in mutual agreement... with a golden handshake behind....
RIP, Orc Choppa |
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Originally posted by WeaponX
Something else to find out if you can is MJ leaving or was he fired??
That's one of those questions we'll never hear an answer to. Every parting is always mutual, officially at least, once you pass a certain pay grade. |
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ofc they wont say fired, no one even said Godager was fired :P |
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andmiller
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Joined: 6/10/06
dr34d0g taught me everything I know. Don't make me "show a fighting move".... |
Originally posted by Lobotomist
? Maybe Mythic, but not sure how this negatively affects Bioware. Mythic probably could have used better guidance from the beginning on this game. I can't see how this would be anything less than positive as I thought they did a pretty poor job on many element of WAR anyway. It's not like they could make it worse with different oversight..... |
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Lobotomist
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Joined: 5/20/07
I got so much |
Originally posted by andmiller
? Maybe Mythic, but not sure how this negatively affects Bioware. Mythic probably could have used better guidance from the beginning on this game. I can't see how this would be anything less than positive as I thought they did a pretty poor job on many element of WAR anyway. It's not like they could make it worse with different oversight..... As I posted in another related topic.
When Mythic and EA joined forces. There was a talk how Mythic will never actually have to report to EA. That they are as independent as it gets. How independent Mythic were , is quite obvious by now. When WAR failed to meet EA expectations Mark Jackobs was let go. And leader of completely different studio was appointed as Mythic leader. (And note Mythic is MMO studio, Bioware is single player RPG studio. As much i love Bioware and Ray Myzuka. Giving lead of studio with one destinct style to a person dedicated to completely different style of gaming - is bad.)
So now is Ray Myzuka time to make cash cow for EA. If he fails , he can allready see what happened to his predecessor ( and many before: Garriot , Molyneux ...)
Let me use old saying Bioware is now : A king for a day, and fool for a lifetime
Sad day indeed
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WOW Suprising!!
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I don't know why this reminds me of Richard Garriot leaving Tabula Rasa a few months or weeks before its demise announcement... might just be paranoia though... |
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I don't see this as a bad thing. Bioware makes great games. They are working on one MMO now, SWTOR, and are rumored to be working on a Neverwinter Nights MMO. Granted they have no completed MMO's but they do have a great track record for building RPG's. 
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[quote] Mark Jacobs, the former CEO and General Manager of Mythic, has left the company as of June 23rd, 2009[/quote] This made my day. I've seen game producers with big egos ... Mr. Jacobs' ego, on the other hand was simply above and beyond. I would cringe my teeth every time I would hear him "addressing" the player base. Every single one of his statements had a sense of self-importance beyond belief. So, yeah perhaps a little shadenfreude.
As for BioWare + Mythic ... it sucks be working for either of them. Knowing how hamfisted EA is, wouldn't doubt the do away with 50% of their personnel and screw upcoming games like SW:TOR and make them WoW clones.
Peace. |
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Mark Jacobs sold his soul and his company downriver to EA. At the time he said it was to better produce the game with EA's resources . He didn't fool anyone, it was all about the money. Now that you got fired was it worth it ? Your name is forever shamed buddy. |
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