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For sure.. just did the Eve Online free trial and that game is like all the other click-a-lot games that you run around collecting hidden treasure and hitting nymphs over the head to go to a store and buy some weapons upgrades then click and go try to shoot someone that has a smaller money source. In fact it is the same as Pirates of the Burning Sea but out in supposedly space. Space is a bunch of nice screensavers from the Hubble spaceship. You dont have to enter orbit or anything you just go right through entire planets to get to the next place you want. All the things in any solarsystem is along the same plane. I mean you dont even fly using a joystick you are in space dang it.. but nothing but the click commerce game modeled.
Long Live WWII ONLINE |
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I left WWIIOL for EVE 3 years ago, after playing WWIIOL non-stop for 3 years.
Now sometimes I wonder which one really gives me the best PvP-experience:
1. Gfx: I'd say WWIIOL is much more immersive. WWIIOL: "Real" trees and forests, you can see for kilometers around. Dogfights going on above your head. Smoke plumes in the far distance... Cities are plain ugly with cardboard walls and generally "feel" and play very unnaturally. I used to avoid city combat because of this. EVE: 2D planets and moons, red crosses or red brackets as targets (you can't PvP decently whilst "zoomed in"), the darkness of space... 2. Terrain: WWIIOL has usable terrain: hide behind hills or move under tree / brush cover, use highground to your advantage, capture airfields etc... Para-Jump out of transport-planes and ignore blocking terrain whilst coming to the target :-) EVE: star systems and 0.0 space: conquer a real part of the "world" (galaxy) and harvest resources for the war effort from moons, rats, etc... However: you cannot hide behind / between asteroids. You can shoot right through them. :-/ So as far as tactical use of terrain is concerned, WWIIOL has a + as far as I'm concerned. 3. Sound: WWIIOL you need sound or you're at a definite disadvantage. Locate (3D sound) your enemy by identifying sounds as well as the type of weapon he is using. EVE sound: nice and well done. Not vital to the PvP experience though. 4. Action: WWIIOL: Finding it can take some time if you're new. If theres not many people online, it can even be hard for veterans. Once found, easy to get back to. EVE: Finding action can take some time. If you die, you need to PVE to get back a new ship and fight again. Of course most people create a reserve of ships. In any case: you need personal "ISK" to fund PVP. In WWIIOL just take a new unit from the spawnpoint and enter the game again within seconds or minutes. 5. LAG: WWIIOL is realtime. Fraction of second delays can be extremely annoying. WWIIOL really is frustrating when combating close range (<50 meters). EVE: I've experienced battles with minutes lag! Really unacceptable. Fortunately the game is playable at 200-300 in system, which is 90% of battles. 6. PvP in EVE is very organised. The PvP corporations use voicecomms, which helps enourmously in organising coordinated attacks & defence ops. The lack of a good and coordinated squad is one of the reasons I left WWIIOL. PvP in EVE = teamplay. In WWIIOL that's less the case. 7. Strategic level: WWIIOL: the high commands monopolize this. A map usually lasts a few weeks and then is reset. In EVE you have sovereignty and space-holding alliances. The "map" is never reset but rather keeps evolving. Also here the interaction between PVE-industrialists/miners and PvP'ers is most important. (8. realism) I put this between brackets because obviously for EVE this isn't a point. In WWIIOL i find the level of realism ok: one (good) shot-one kill, is what I like. I also like the mobile spawn points, although not realistic. 9. Skill EVE, although you need real PvP skills, is more statistics driven than WWIIOL. This is both a + and a -. In WWIIOL you have (almost) no character advancement. If you're good with the rifle, you are a deadly asset. In EVE you need to train skills to be able to be of real use (yeah even for tackling the elite corps will turn down T1-frig pilots in favour of elite-skilled-interceptor or interdictor pilots). Lots of MMOG gamers need "levelling" or "skilling" to keep the game interesting.
I still enjoy EVE, so for me EVE (PvP) > WWIIOL at the moment. I sometimes hesitate to put EVE "on hold" and switch back to WWIIOL. Until now, I didn't go through with it. Just keep the game alive until I finally decide to come back ;-)
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Eve is for the player who wants more than just a shooter game.
WWIIOL, is nothing more than a bad FPS.
Eve is a complete game, with a economy run by the players, its actually a really good game for its scale. But different in almost every way to WWIIOL....
That would be like compairing Halo to Sim City. So much crap, so little quality. |
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Of course they are different. Nevertheless, the comparison of the PvP-aspect of both games still stands. Likewise, a comparison between WWIIOL and a shoebox-FPS could be made as well.
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Personally i don't like EVE because you have to click to move. I don't want to click, i want to move myself! |
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Corto, WWIIOL IS a shoebox FPS... just a large one. That is all.... no real Roleplaying aspects, no real charecter development... WWIIOL is a MMOFPS. Eve is a MMORPG, along the lines of Jumpgate, Anarchy Online, WoW, and Asherons Call. So much crap, so little quality. |
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I disagree with Hodo. Since he doesnt play, he is as biased as any fanbois. With nothing good to say, he should be taken with a grain of salf. He and I disagree. WW2OL is not ver everyone, but for those who enjoy they have stayed , many for 8 years. It has buried many games they many siad would be its demise. I enjoy it flaws and all. THere is a 2 week freebie, play it and make your own decision. |
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Originally posted by hardcase
And really what have I said in my previous post to disagree with?
It IS a FPS. It doesnt have character levels with skill points. There is no player construction or crafting.... And it is really large.
So what have I said thats biased or denigrating? <Mod Edit> So much crap, so little quality. |
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