Yes naimons right most, any really posts about a GM are deleted or locked very quickly.

Great. In the meantime, would you please point me to solid evidence of GM abuse? I see none, just silly claims.

 Show me the actual logs of the actual conversation you had with the GMs that day, so we can see if they're abusive.

And if GMs hate internet slang, why does Kerol let you type your OOC like this? {}

Why does Tazen use lol etc.?

You're completely unreasonable in your claims. Firstly Zanzibar is known for being the kind of person to pick holes in everything the Planeshift team says, and is very nitpicky. And no matter what, if you start being a right knob to the developers/game masters of a game, how can you expect them to not boot you out?

Remember, PlaneShift is not a public free for all game. It's got rules, and structure. I feel no sympathy to you for being banned, I knew you in the game and you insulted other players alot and caused alot of grief.

Point me to proof they are not.

who would claim to be banned for 30 days instead of a much shorter period of time chucki that doesnt make any sense at all so that is real proof.

I can almost guarantee it was warranted. Probably swearing at a GM, or personally insulting them.

You claim to be warning people about GMs on PlaneShift being corrupt, and I am here to say you've got your facts wrong.

You have one nitpicker and one guy that got banned for a month. Hardly evidence for the widespread corruption you're laying claim to being in place.

first of all dont insult my friend zanzibar hes a very good person and deff not a nitpicker he jsut tells it like it is. SO stop insulting people. Secondly i kno that kerol said that what he was talking about with the internet slang was writing short hand and not spellin all words fully or completely correct smart guy. so show me proo of you 'claims as i have' or just stop posting all youd doing is insulting em and the people i talk about  in my replies instead of backing up your acussations and rejecting my proof of the topic without any of your own to refute mine.

I no it doesnt count for much to a person like you chucki, but i was present when he was speaking to the gm's and no he did not

Zanzibar is a nitpicker. He even says so himself, he considers it his task to find all the problems in PlaneShift and tell the devs, and everyone else. Either way, none of what they have said is solid evidence of this widespread corruption you're alleging to be in place.

And isn't it a little hypercritical (hyper = too much) of you to be telling me not to be insulting, when the forum moderators for this website had to scrape your potty-mouthed insults away?

By the way, my reference to it being warranted earlier was about "Anil", not Naimon.

well first how would you know  anils case. secondly i am not and never did say i  was refering this gm abuse to be WIDE SPREAD. It never said that in the op and i never said it in any posts afterwards so stop saying that. secondly i lost my temper and said as much anyone who has a brain would be pissed with you right now, And last night when its 3 o clock in the morning. now i said before stop insulting me and stop lying. Show proof of these allegations just b.c you do not see it as proof for some weiird reason doesnt mean its not. and lastly even if he is hes still a good person and so what if he finds the faults in everything in the game thats a good thing theres nothing wrong with that and you knowing that much should let your common sense know that  at the very least his email is proof enough with you knowing how much he knows about the game.

Listen chucki, it doesnt matter anymore!!...geez!! he used swear words (omg like its never been done before)

All youve been trying to do is make him look bad well congrats i think you have made both of yourselves look bad, more so you chucki... not only that but you asked for proof about OTHERS having the same issue, not about what they were banned for.

Ive grown to dislike you and everytimg i read your post all i think is "great what does he have to tell me that he already hasnt"

Nitpicker? maybe. Im just using what you say against you. Want me to not do that? Stop making pointlesss comments.

Naimon hypocritical? I do recall you insulting me, him, and freyaa.

I have no problem with the GMs i am currently defending my freinds for your insults, Also who says that a GM is 100& right all the time?

I can't see anywhere where my integrity has been tarnished in this thread. I've simply debated a fact opposite to the side you're taking. So it has not made us both look bad, just you for losing your head and swearing, like you do in PlaneShift.

Yes and im simply help people who are my friends.

not everyone is perfect and of course you dont see any wrong  or insults youve made b.c obvioulsy you think everything youve said is 100% true wich is why im done talking to you. people like you can never be reasoned with until they opposing person says they are right which you are not. your a 19 year old. Do you really think you have not insulted me or my wife this entire time. if yes then you really are ignorant beyond any human belief. and your not debating anything. if you were debating you would be able to back up your insults and accusasions which you cant and have not this entire time so i am done with you and this conversation.

LOL i no you did not just say that i swear in the game!! i have never been warned, or banned, and i have most deffinately never sworn...i would though, like for you to stop lying, you say i swear? no i have not, you will find people who dislike me, but they even will tell you i have never sworn at them.

swearing doesnt make you a bad person either (just to let you no) and i love how you purposly ignore everything ive posted... ive heard of selective hearing...but lol come on PROVE ME WRONG we gave proof at least

Like i said before chucki idk how many times i have to say this but after my  day ban i didnt say a single swear word only did i say jerk one time. soooo stop talking about the past your way off topic here so your really not debating anything at all.

But what i would reallly like to know (of topic completely but whatever^^) Whats your name in game . Cuz i must have had to piss you off sumthing fierce when i first started playin for you to keep this up this long. Even akaiddo wouldnt have dont this and that was the worst altercation i had with anyone. loll

*edit* Because i know if i know your name ill know where youve been gettin your facs from and ill know if youve been around me that past week or so. And if you havent then all this will just be what i said its been from you. Insults and lies^^

I ignore your annoying orange font yes. That and I don't really care too much for your opinion Freyaa. You're his wife, so therefore your opinion is as biased as his. When I said "like you do in PlaneShift" I was referring to Naimon.

I still see neither of you can provide real, solid evidence.

My PlaneShift identity is to be unknown to you. It is irrelevant to the topic.

And Zalera, you should realise I called him a hypercrite not a hypocrite. Hypocrites criticise to little, Hypercrites criticise too much.

Naimon, you've been saying for pages now that you're done with me, yet you always reply, and you never reply with a decent argument, just more claims.

Tell me Naimon, do you ever plan on playing PlaneShift again?

Yes your identity on planeshift is relivent considering if you were no where near me the last week then you have no grounds whate so ever to make your acussasions on other then the past and what rumors you have heard on planeshift. So by you not giving me your name i will comfortably assume that you werent near me and you do NOT have any respectable grounds to prove you allegations agianst me.As to me giving you solid evidence i consider it to be "solid evidence" given that one person isnt going to lie about how many days they were banned  when it was there first offense and you dont know what the situation was with anil and given that zanzibar is very reputable in these matters and all other matters dealing with planeshifts  inconsistences. I have given you proof and yet you show none at all what so ever. until you do your point you are trying to make isnot only moot but isnt a point at all and only slander insult and hear say. stop bouncing the proof deal on us when i have given it to you and show us your own to final back up your claims lest you have none then like i said jsut now  your point= no point,slander, and nothing but insults based upon hear say and what i ahve admitted to.

Im sorry thank you for correcting me.

By your replies on the subject of banning everything you say points to you thinking without any doubt what so ever even with anil that what ever they got they deserved. Now with this way of thinking you are really in no position to what you call "debate" the sunject considering that you are completely unwilling to even think for one second that gms CAN be unfair and not follow the rules so i dont even know why your talking about it especially since youve provided no proof yourself to the contrary.

p.s. well i waited 30 mins for you "rebuddle" on what i just said and you apparently cant refute anything ive said just now so ill check tomorrow, Give you time to think on the matter. But if your just going to say the same things as before then dont bother. only reply  if you can refute anything ive just said on any FACTUAL basis.^^

Rebuttal. Lurn 2 England.

Do you seriously think that I'm to believe that four GMs are abusing powers in PlaneShift?

Also note that I rebuked your statement of the harshness of the one month ban on the other player, as you have not mentioned exactly what he did to recieve such a ban.

Tolian Tyndale received a three month ban for his first offence. The offence was money duplication.  And Tolian had a good record prior to it as he is a stellar roleplayer. Why such a harsh ban? It was a serious offence. The offence "Anil" committed is not mentioned, it could be swearing at a GM, money duplication, item duplication, anything. This information you seem to be retaining from the thread.

My PlaneShift name is irrelevant. Stop asking for it, I do believe that could be some form of harassment.

well like i said our name is relavent and misspelling a couple words has nothing to do with the discussion smart alec. if you were not around me then you have no grounds to acusse me of anything and all you can do is reffer to my past offense  and insult me with them and i only asked for it once. idk what you dont understand about that. Also even with what you said about alin zanzibars statment still holds water in many ways. and you still have ye to show me any of this boundless proof to your acussasions towards me and my current ban or on the subject of gm abuse. So your still lacking in many respects on this thread, Two days and still nothing to back up anything at all you say. all you can do it criticize my "evidence" and show none of your own. now if you cant prove you were around me or prove what i did to deserve the ban then you cant tell me that i did just from past offenses, Thats assuming and everyone knows what that does. Also it wasnt four gms it ws 2 gms and 2 dev team members. one of wich shouldnt have been there b.c she was bais to my case in the first place due to past dealings in the chat with me. ANd what i said about you being bais still holds water also, You refuse to even think for  a second that gms can or would abuse their power so once agian you have no grounds on which to acuse me of anything or say anything on this topic of gm abuse in the first place.

Well thought out and over all a good post. I would still like to ask the GMs to simply show the screenshots and the chat loggs so that we can see if they are right or wrong. I do feel bad for them they must not get to play the game all that much, to busy.

And also i think i understand partialy why they would delete those post. One would lead to many post complaining about GMs. Some of those im sure would be false and simply there for the entertainment of a bored player. And if any of you people try to use that comment against Naimon or Freyaa i will be sure to turn it around and make you insult yourself :)

ok well im sorry you feel that way. But i did do what the gms and forum moderator said after the post was deleted and did not repeat it agian. Thats why its on here. Another thing idk if you read th op or not but when i was banned this time i had witnesses to account for my actions and i was only in two places for a whole week when these supposed inccidents that im being acussed of happened zanzibar. I didnt think you would say one thing in that message you sent me and come on here and say another. Especially when you did not fully know the situation neither were you there or to y knowledge ever talked to me in person in the game to see how i act. Unfortunitly i was mistaken in thinking you saw things as i do. But maybe if you didnt mix words and expressed your real views on the gm team and not what you wrote then i would have never even brought you up. Nor did i think givin what i understoond from your message think you would come on here and say something like this. How pray tell did you even know of this post in the first place?