Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by damian7

from the op

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2662012#2662012

 

 

where are they now?  where are the ardent darkfall supporters from just a few months ago... especially in regards to this naval issue?

 

Yep.

 

The same can be said of pretty much any longer thread from pre-Beta and Beta. 

Go back about 6-12 months and read through the threads.  Jot down how many familiar names that you see that were gung-ho on DarkFall back then.  I'll give you a hint... there are very, very few.  Why is that?

 

Even now...

It used to be a new thread would be lucky to stay on the first page for a day.  Now a new thread without a single reply can stay on the front page for 2 weeks.

It doesn't take a very bright person to see that DarkFall's day in the lime-light has passed them by.  They took too long to get the major issues fixed, and release some new content.

Will the NA release bring back some excitement for DarkFall?  If it is at the cost of EU-1 dying... not sure how much they will have gained.  I guess sometime in July will tell the tale.  I'll still be around... not sure how many ardent supporters will be. 

 

I've said all along I'll stay interested in DarkFall until they fold or they offer the Free Trials like they intended from the get go.  Heck, I've still got a few "guarantees" from vocal supporters back in Oct./Nov. saying that I'd be playing my Free Trial no later than Dec./Jan. at the latest.  Heh... still waiting. 

heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by damian7

from the op

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2662012#2662012

 

 

where are they now?  where are the ardent darkfall supporters from just a few months ago... especially in regards to this naval issue?

 

Yep.

 

The same can be said of pretty much any longer thread from pre-Beta and Beta. 

Go back about 6-12 months and read through the threads.  Jot down how many familiar names that you see that were gung-ho on DarkFall back then.  I'll give you a hint... there are very, very few.  Why is that?

 

Even now...

It used to be a new thread would be lucky to stay on the first page for a day.  Now a new thread without a single reply can stay on the front page for 2 weeks.

It doesn't take a very bright person to see that DarkFall's day in the lime-light has passed them by.  They took too long to get the major issues fixed, and release some new content.

Will the NA release bring back some excitement for DarkFall?  If it is at the cost of EU-1 dying... not sure how much they will have gained.  I guess sometime in July will tell the tale.  I'll still be around... not sure how many ardent supporters will be. 

 

I've said all along I'll stay interested in DarkFall until they fold or they offer the Free Trials like they intended from the get go.  Heck, I've still got a few "guarantees" from vocal supporters back in Oct./Nov. saying that I'd be playing my Free Trial no later than Dec./Jan. at the latest.  Heh... still waiting. 

 

heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

have you witnessed large naval battles?

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

 

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

Yes but you are missing one small point. People love to make negative posts re "OMGZ I QUIT!" people who dont make posts such as "I DONT QUIT!" unless its to annoy particular poster. 

So the perception that everybody is leaving is wrong, people quit MMOs all the time, you just need to know MMO life cycles to understand user numbers and explanations for them.Also Devs dont bother with "General discussion" section of the forums for obvious reasons, they stick to suggestion section and dot forget they ahve their own mind made up on how to develop their own game, so they dont follow players advice 100%.

 Oh and about naval battles, I would imagine they happen at sea some place? since i havent bothered to even go out to sea in a raft I dont know. Besides its not a naval simulator, if it was then i would understand you but its not the main focus of the game, so whats this fuss about naval battles? Even If clans worked out that building fleets is not that viable then whats wrong with that?

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

 

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

 

Yes but you are missing one small point. People love to make negative posts re "OMGZ I QUIT!" people who dont make posts such as "I DONT QUIT!" unless its to annoy particular poster. 

So the perception that everybody is leaving is wrong, people quit MMOs all the time, you just need to know MMO life cycles to understand user numbers and explanations for them.Also Devs dont bother with "General discussion" section of the forums for obvious reasons, they stick to suggestion section and dot forget they ahve their own mind made up on how to develop their own game, so they dont follow players advice 100%.

 

Learn to think please..
 

Originally posted by oddjobs74

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

 

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

 

Yes but you are missing one small point. People love to make negative posts re "OMGZ I QUIT!" people who dont make posts such as "I DONT QUIT!" unless its to annoy particular poster. 

So the perception that everybody is leaving is wrong, people quit MMOs all the time, you just need to know MMO life cycles to understand user numbers and explanations for them.Also Devs dont bother with "General discussion" section of the forums for obvious reasons, they stick to suggestion section and dot forget they ahve their own mind made up on how to develop their own game, so they dont follow players advice 100%.

 

Learn to think please..
 

I guess I win the argument then? :)

Thank you and goodnight.

Originally posted by Roin

People are just afraid the hackers will pull a "Flying Dutchman" with their ships.  So they keep them hidden.  Ships are serious business after all.

 

Edit: Oops for the link www.youtube.com/watch

QFT This is exactly why dark is shit and you don't see anything

I don't know what you troll haters are still whining about, the 17 min "100% gameplay" promotional pre launch video from last year already proved Darkfall has large naval battles.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by oddjobs74

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

 

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

 

Yes but you are missing one small point. People love to make negative posts re "OMGZ I QUIT!" people who dont make posts such as "I DONT QUIT!" unless its to annoy particular poster. 

So the perception that everybody is leaving is wrong, people quit MMOs all the time, you just need to know MMO life cycles to understand user numbers and explanations for them.Also Devs dont bother with "General discussion" section of the forums for obvious reasons, they stick to suggestion section and dot forget they ahve their own mind made up on how to develop their own game, so they dont follow players advice 100%.

 

Learn to think please..
 

 

I guess I win the argument then? :)

 

Thank you and goodnight.

um, actually, the lack of people ingame, says a lot more than the 'i quit' posts. 

lost minions.... holding hal'kali AND a hamlet...   4 or 5 active players IN lost minions....

speaks worlds more than any argument on here.

Originally posted by damian7

um, actually, the lack of people ingame, says a lot more than the 'i quit' posts. 

 

lost minions.... holding hal'kali AND a hamlet...   4 or 5 active players IN lost minions....

 

speaks worlds more than any argument on here.

Yeah... not sure how many different ways we can say it, and point it out.

DarkFall is bleeding subscribers fast.  They are gaining new subscribers at a painfully slow drip.  The geyser leaving has far out-paced the tiny dribble coming in.  

Now some will say that is because people are waiting for the new NA server launch.  Ahh... so then EU-1 will magically be "fixed" for it's population once the NA server launches?

If someone isn't playing on EU-1 now because they are waiting for the NA server... wouldn't that mean that it will be just as bad or worse once the NA server does launch?

Anyway... this thread was just another example of some of the stuff that was shown by Aventurine before the game launched and that the fans said would make this game special.  

As clearly pointed out by it's ABSENCE in this thread (large naval battles)... it's just another example of more hype by Tasos, Aventurine and the ardent supporters. 

Even Features that are in game are not SEEN in game.  It really is sad. 

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by oddjobs74

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Cristina1

 heh well dont be fooled, there are less people in game as the rush wore off but there are still thousands people play. I run into people all the time, its just that some places on the map as in any other game are a bit empty compared to others.

 

Also forums represnt less than 1 percent of people playing the game, if you dont know how I can explain later.

 

Do you know why most MMO developers will impliment changes based upon what they read on thier forums, and don't kid yourself, they do this.  Av is also doing this.  I give them credit, they suck at communicating, but they do listen, a little.

They do this because the forums is usually a good representation of player opinion.
Even though only a small percentage of people will post on the games forum, it doesn't mean that that small percentage isn't the magority opinion.

It's like how they count a large group of people.  They don't count every single individiual, they count a small cross section of individuals and then apply that section across the whole to get a fairly accurate total.  It may be off a little by a + or -, but it's typically very close.

So when you see that small percentage of people posting on a game forum saying that something is wrong, guess what, something is wrong.  People can say all they want that the people posting don't play the game, but that's not true.  They either did play, or are playing.  I don't believe they ALL played or are, but very few of the people taking the time to actually post on the official forum NEVER played.

The same feelings you read on the official forums are being expressed in game as well.  People are talking in game, and a lot of people are talking about what needs to be fixed to make the game fun; with lasting appeal.

And as Damian asked you, have you seen a naval battle yet?

 

Yes but you are missing one small point. People love to make negative posts re "OMGZ I QUIT!" people who dont make posts such as "I DONT QUIT!" unless its to annoy particular poster. 

So the perception that everybody is leaving is wrong, people quit MMOs all the time, you just need to know MMO life cycles to understand user numbers and explanations for them.Also Devs dont bother with "General discussion" section of the forums for obvious reasons, they stick to suggestion section and dot forget they ahve their own mind made up on how to develop their own game, so they dont follow players advice 100%.

 

Learn to think please..
 

 

I guess I win the argument then? :)

 

Thank you and goodnight.

No, they just got tired of beating their heads against a brick wall, because arguing with you is akin to the same thing, but in all fairness to brick walls, they do seem to make a bit more sense.

Now, thank you and goodnight.

Originally posted by cult7

You dont see naval battles or ships cause u look in the wrong place.These things in DFO dont happen in sea.

Try to raise ur eyes to the sky

LOL!!! 

Darkfail admins should just allow free for all hacking in the game, that would make it more interesting.  Then there would be massive naval battles in the sky and everywhere.  If everyone was allowed/encouraged to use hacks then it might actually become a pretty cool and genuinely revolutionary game, instead of just a lump of crap.

Hack wars can be a lot of fun, with different clans building their own custom trainers and stuff, it would be all out total war.  Hell, I would love to play a game like that, the devs can advertise it as part of their features.  Some parameters would need to be put in place, such as no hacking the server, and no hacking other people's accounts.  Other than that, let it be a real free for all, a REAL sandbox game where players can do anything they want. 

Originally posted by Wyldsong

 

No, they just got tired of beating their heads against a brick wall, because arguing with you is akin to the same thing, but in all fairness to brick walls, they do seem to make a bit more sense.

Now, thank you and goodnight.

Sort of like this:  redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by Wyldsong

 

No, they just got tired of beating their heads against a brick wall, because arguing with you is akin to the same thing, but in all fairness to brick walls, they do seem to make a bit more sense.

Now, thank you and goodnight.

 

Sort of like this:  redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

=)

that is good stuff

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by Wyldsong

 

No, they just got tired of beating their heads against a brick wall, because arguing with you is akin to the same thing, but in all fairness to brick walls, they do seem to make a bit more sense.

Now, thank you and goodnight.

 

Sort of like this:  redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

 

=)

that is good stuff

LOL! Great stuff. That one in particular, Ferous Cranus, perfectly describes at least one rabid DF fan we all know around here; no matter how many times you explain something, how many things you point out, facts you cite, examples you give or quotes you provide, nothing gets through.

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by cult7

You dont see naval battles or ships cause u look in the wrong place.These things in DFO dont happen in sea.

Try to raise ur eyes to the sky

 

LOL!!! 

 

Darkfail admins should just allow free for all hacking in the game, that would make it more interesting.  Then there would be massive naval battles in the sky and everywhere.  If everyone was allowed/encouraged to use hacks then it might actually become a pretty cool and genuinely revolutionary game, instead of just a lump of crap.

 

Hack wars can be a lot of fun, with different clans building their own custom trainers and stuff, it would be all out total war.  Hell, I would love to play a game like that, the devs can advertise it as part of their features.  Some parameters would need to be put in place, such as no hacking the server, and no hacking other people's accounts.  Other than that, let it be a real free for all, a REAL sandbox game where players can do anything they want. 

Hahaha that really might be a start to turn the tide around for Darkfall.  Flying boats, flying mounts with legs not wings, flying player without wings nor turbines, instant warping persons.  How about a flying city?  How about sending harvest to the bank via flying mounts?

Oh yeah flying cities attacking each other in the air.  Why just in the air, why not go underground.  Clan A moving under the ground to attack the city of Clan B under the ground, under the sea.

Why not let the players design their own spells, weapons, armor, talent tree.  Now bazukas, space ships, laser guns, oh aoe bombs, atomic bombs.  Instant steal everything on you spells.  Jedis and light sabers ftw.  We can resurrect the long dead SWG here. Woot.

Lets make it imaginative, lets call it free-for-all pvp, err no free-for-all hacking game.  Free DF, spaceship darkfall, whatever fall, subscription, surely falls.

Oh well

From a distance  darkfall looks like crap. if i knew there were more of these flying boat wars going on i might get aboard, takes me back to old planetside pvp in medieval weapons. so can i be dropped over enemy cities and hack their defenses too?

Originally posted by jevtyrn

From a distance  darkfall looks like crap. if i knew there were more of these flying boat wars going on i might get aboard, takes me back to old planetside pvp in medieval weapons. so can i be dropped over enemy cities and hack their defenses too?

sadly, no ... but you can use hacks if that helps! :D

I'd be surprised if there has been a single instance of a ship's cannon being fired at another ship

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

Originally posted by fast3ddy

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

 

So how about making a video of one. Some of us would like to see a naval battle. So far all I have seen is boats flying or shooting at the land.

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by fast3ddy

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

 

So how about making a video of one. Some of us would like to see a naval battle. So far all I have seen is boats flying or shooting at the land.

So, if the game doesnt have a video of ships shooting each other then the game has failed?

I have a feeling you got confused with games. Pirates of the Burning Sea MMO is all about ship combat, go ask them for a video, if they cant provide you with that then your complaining is fully justified. But DF is not a naval simulator.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by fast3ddy

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

 

So how about making a video of one. Some of us would like to see a naval battle. So far all I have seen is boats flying or shooting at the land.

 

So, if the game doesnt have a video of ships shooting each other then the game has failed?

I have a feeling you got confused with games. Pirates of the Burning Sea MMO is all about ship combat, go ask them for a video, if they cant provide you with that then your complaining is fully justified. But DF is not a naval simulator.

He didn't say it failed.  He asked for someone to make a video of a battle, since the only thing that most of us have seen is the infamous flying dutchman or a raft.  Where did you get the idea, "this game has failed because there are no videos of ships shooting one another" from his post? Please do break down his post and show me this, I beg of you, I need the entertainment.

Defensive much?

**Edit - Just an added thought, you are attacking a guy who hasn't even posted anything anti DF in this thread.  He asked for a video.  A freaking video and this offends you and sets you on the offensive? Wow.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by fast3ddy

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

 

So how about making a video of one. Some of us would like to see a naval battle. So far all I have seen is boats flying or shooting at the land.

 

So, if the game doesnt have a video of ships shooting each other then the game has failed?

I have a feeling you got confused with games. Pirates of the Burning Sea MMO is all about ship combat, go ask them for a video, if they cant provide you with that then your complaining is fully justified. But DF is not a naval simulator.

What does what you wrote have anything to do what I asked?

The game is suppose to have naval battles. Fast3ddy said he saw one, I would like to see one.  So show me one.

I never said the game failed because I have not seen a video of naval battles.  However this is suppose to be a sandbox game with NAVAL BATTLES.

I think you are the one confused, since you didn't understand my simple request.

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by fast3ddy

I saw a naval battle the other night, maybe a handful of ships not the big,big ones though. I ran from it as you may imagine because i didn't want them to steal my fish :).

But yea, there are boats in the game, and if you play, you see them and yes they do battle each other, so there...you know.

"Large" is in the eye of the beholder.

OP can rest assured.

 

So how about making a video of one. Some of us would like to see a naval battle. So far all I have seen is boats flying or shooting at the land.

 

So, if the game doesnt have a video of ships shooting each other then the game has failed?

I have a feeling you got confused with games. Pirates of the Burning Sea MMO is all about ship combat, go ask them for a video, if they cant provide you with that then your complaining is fully justified. But DF is not a naval simulator.

What does what you wrote have anything to do what I asked?

Got your answer.  Absolutely nothing.  Cristina1 seems a bit high strung methinks.