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Zorndorf

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6/18/09 5:51:36 PM#1

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/3p2/battleground-qna.html

Title says it all. Just read it. Patch 3.2.

Half of the complaining posts can already be in the basket.

And it shows the next MMORPG from Blizzard could easely be a non leveling game and purely based on reputations. achievements/ titles / skills.

If already Wow has these trics in it, well expect more revolutions to come.

Apparently there will be loot too in the BG victories.

-----> Anyone want a lvl 60 old Wow game with the reputations? : no problem you just stop the experience bar... for 10 Gold !!!!

:))))

 

Ahiles

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6/18/09 5:56:48 PM#2

That stopping XP gains sounds like quite a nifty idea tbh.

TBH I would have liked more xp other than capping a flag, but i guess its a small step forward,   wouldnt want it to turn into a War SC game:P would have liked the xp gains back from handing in badges also.  wow that was a long time ago:P

Zerocyde

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6/18/09 6:00:24 PM#3


where are we at with allowing for players to obtain experience through Player vs. Player (PvP) combat and Battlegrounds?


Cory Stockton: We plan to implement this in patch 3.2.0.



Right here I decided to re-activate my WoW account.


players can expect to earn experience at a rate that is a bit slower than questing at the same level


Right here I changed my mind.

This game will NEVER be suitable for people who like to make more than one new character a year.

"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:01:41 PM#4
Originally posted by Ahiles

That stopping XP gains sounds like quite a nifty idea tbh.

TBH I would have liked more xp other than capping a flag, but i guess its a small step forward,   wouldnt want it to turn into a War SC game:P would have liked the xp gains back from handing in badges also.  wow that was a long time ago:P


 

I would urge everyone to read the link at least twice.

There is so much more behind this info It simply is extremely important to what Wow evolves to now.

 

 

 

Dilweed

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6/18/09 6:02:26 PM#5

I was wrong, my bad...

delete post

Ahiles

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6/18/09 6:02:52 PM#6
Originally posted by Zerocyde

 


where are we at with allowing for players to obtain experience through Player vs. Player (PvP) combat and Battlegrounds?

 


Cory Stockton: We plan to implement this in patch 3.2.0.


 


Right here I decided to re-activate my WoW account.

 


players can expect to earn experience at a rate that is a bit slower than questing at the same level

 


Right here I changed my mind.

This game will NEVER be suitable for people who like to make more than one new character a year.

 

What??  Thousands of peoplemake alts probably  every few months, so you saying u cant lvl 2 characters to 80 in 1 year?

krityc

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6/18/09 6:09:20 PM#7

 Its called warhammer . . .

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Ahiles

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6/18/09 6:13:05 PM#8
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .

 

Actaully no, wow had xp in world pvp and BG long before warhammer mmo was even a concept.  Blizzard have been talking about bringing it back now for quitemome time.  It may not be the old style  pvp xp, but hell any xp in BG is good atm.  Lets not compare the shitfest that is warhammer with 100% focus on SC, and nothing else, even thoughits a so called open pvp game.

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:16:12 PM#9
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .


 

... done right.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where you just can shut down experience level gains both in PVP and PVE?

While it helps twinks and ... people going for reputations without the need to reach end level (Justicar title) and so avoid the rat race at lvl 80 ...  it also means you can build guilds that redo the level 60 Raids and dungeons in Vanlilla Wow.

Anyone knows where this stop of experience was used elsewhere?

 

TheMaelstrom

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6/18/09 6:19:17 PM#10

LMAO. You can now hop into a catapult to launch yourself over enemy walls. Sounds strangely familiar. I don't care that they steal the idea from Warhammer... hell, almost all of the WoW universe is a spin-off of Warhammer. I just wish they'd improve it somehow instead of just copying. /sigh

 

EDIT:

As sick to death as I am of WoW (haven't subbed in nearly 2 years) I'm curious to see what their next MMO project will bring to the table.

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in doctrine that provide true believers excuse for mayhem.
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JGMIII

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6/18/09 6:24:12 PM#11
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .


 

... done right.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where you just can shut down experience level gains both in PVP and PVE?

While it helps twinks and ... people going for reputations without the need to reach end level (Justicar title) and so avoid the rat race at lvl 80 ...  it also means you can build guilds that redo the level 60 Raids and dungeons in Vanlilla Wow.

Oh Awesome Zorn!!!! I'm going to go out right now make a level 60 raid guild and run Naxx......... Oh wait.

Anyone knows where this stop of experience was used elsewhere?

EQ2 has a pause Xp function

 

 

Playing: EvE, Ryzom

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:24:13 PM#12
Originally posted by TheMaelstrom

LMAO. You can now hop into a catapult to launch yourself over enemy walls. Sounds strangely familiar. I don't care that they steal the idea from Warhammer... hell, almost all of the WoW universe is a spin-off of Warhammer. I just wish they'd improve it somehow instead of just copying. /sigh


 

Already the mentioning of war - a game which just lost about all its players in 6 months time -  in one sentence with WotLK is making this thread so painful. Don't let me remind me of the idea  of knocking on a door  that was supposed to be a besieged castle...

Please stay on topic.

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:26:25 PM#13
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .


 

... done right.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where you just can shut down experience level gains both in PVP and PVE?

While it helps twinks and ... people going for reputations without the need to reach end level (Justicar title) and so avoid the rat race at lvl 80 ...  it also means you can build guilds that redo the level 60 Raids and dungeons in Vanlilla Wow.

Oh Awesome Zorn!!!! I'm going to go out right now make a level 60 raid guild and run Naxx......... Oh wait.

Anyone knows where this stop of experience was used elsewhere?

EQ2 has a pause Xp function

 

 


 

I doubt it because I played it and didn't find that feature in EQ2.

JGMIII

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If a game is Fun, It's a good game.

6/18/09 6:33:02 PM#14
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .


 

... done right.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where you just can shut down experience level gains both in PVP and PVE?

While it helps twinks and ... people going for reputations without the need to reach end level (Justicar title) and so avoid the rat race at lvl 80 ...  it also means you can build guilds that redo the level 60 Raids and dungeons in Vanlilla Wow.

Oh Awesome Zorn!!!! I'm going to go out right now make a level 60 raid guild and run Naxx......... Oh wait.

Anyone knows where this stop of experience was used elsewhere?

EQ2 has a pause Xp function

 

 


 

I doubt it because I played it and didn't find that feature in EQ2.

 

EQ2 has a pause XP function so players wouldn't out level quest areas.

Zorn you and I both know WoW is a big copy cat MMO. Blizzard takes any good feature in rival mmos and makes it their own.

Stop trying to act like blizzard has even one original feature in WoW.

I can't wait for TOR to release so blizzard could take a few features from that mmo also.

Playing: EvE, Ryzom

Mystik86

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Using his imagination since 1986.

6/18/09 6:39:54 PM#15

I don't consider this revolutionary at all. In fact, nothing Blizzard does in WoW is revolutionary, but of course it's hard to do anything never done before when you copy things from other games. I don't think players care about innovation in WoW so much as they care about shiny new armor and weapons. I think though that Blizzard could bring in more already-done features to make WoW better, for example: player housing, better roleplay mechanics, more races, better character customization, updated graphics engine and much more...

For the Templars...

lorteged

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6/18/09 6:40:46 PM#16
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by krityc

 Its called warhammer . . .


 

... done right.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where you just can shut down experience level gains both in PVP and PVE?

While it helps twinks and ... people going for reputations without the need to reach end level (Justicar title) and so avoid the rat race at lvl 80 ...  it also means you can build guilds that redo the level 60 Raids and dungeons in Vanlilla Wow.

Anyone knows where this stop of experience was used elsewhere?

 

DAOC..
 

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6/18/09 6:44:36 PM#17
Originally posted by Mystik86

I don't consider this revolutionary at all. In fact, nothing Blizzard does in WoW is revolutionary, but of course it's hard to do anything never done before when you copy things from other games. I don't think players care about innovation in WoW so much as they care about shiny new armor and weapons. I think though that Blizzard could bring in more already-done features to make WoW better, for example: player housing, better roleplay mechanics, more races, better character customization, updated graphics engine and much more...

Funny that you argue that Blizzard has done nothing revolutionary or innovative but everything you suggest is anything but revolutionary or innovative.

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:45:27 PM#18
Originally posted by JGMIII

 

EQ2 has a pause XP function so players wouldn't out level quest areas.

Zorn you and I both know WoW is a big copy cat MMO. Blizzard takes any good feature in rival mmos and makes it their own.

Stop trying to act like blizzard has even one original feature in WoW.

I can't wait for TOR to release so blizzard could take a few features from that mmo also.


 

No, to my knowledge EQ2 didn't have a complete XP stop and certainly not on a  level up through PvP alternative...

Any links to check it perhaps ?

-----

You couldn't wait for AOC or WAR also. Well they've come and gone and what did we ALL  see ?

New features introduced that let the number one game even have more options.

I can imagine this is again a new nightmare for a Wow hater :))) and well known Wow troll in this Wow forum.  :)))

Read the content patch notes of 3.2: I guess a lot of sleepless nights lay ahead once more :)

 

JGMIII

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If a game is Fun, It's a good game.

6/18/09 6:46:05 PM#19

Look, I'm happy WoW fans have a new feature to look forward to.

Hell I'll even go as far as saying it's a nice feature but WoW fans make it extremely hard for anyone to be happy for ya when you toss threads like this at us.

It's almost a bait thread when you call WoW Revolutionary, so stop the baiting and maybe just maybe we will be happy for ya.

Playing: EvE, Ryzom

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6/18/09 6:47:59 PM#20

Technically his post title is accurate to a point:

It is a revolution of sorts for WOW itself.

However, I think new features for WOW would be a better way to word it but it is revolutionary for WOW itself but not for the MMO market as a whole.

Comnitus

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6/18/09 6:49:55 PM#21
Originally posted by templarga
Originally posted by Mystik86

I don't consider this revolutionary at all. In fact, nothing Blizzard does in WoW is revolutionary, but of course it's hard to do anything never done before when you copy things from other games. I don't think players care about innovation in WoW so much as they care about shiny new armor and weapons. I think though that Blizzard could bring in more already-done features to make WoW better, for example: player housing, better roleplay mechanics, more races, better character customization, updated graphics engine and much more...

Funny that you argue that Blizzard has done nothing revolutionary or innovative but everything you suggest is anything but revolutionary or innovative.

The argument is valid, because Zorndorf used the word "revolutions". Now, are these changes "revolutionary" in the WoW universe only? Yes, because there hasn't been anything like this in WoW yet. Is it revolutionary for the MMO genre? No, not even close. That's the point people are trying to make: it's been done before. EQ2/DAoC had exp stops and WAR has leveling through PvP (full leveling, not this limited "We don't want PvP exp to be a faster way of leveling than quest exp, because we all know how much people love reading quest text and doing the same quests over and over!").

Mystik was not saying that the features he suggested are revolutionary or innovative. He's saying that Blizzard should keep the status quo and rip off those features as well. Why not?


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JGMIII

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6/18/09 6:50:14 PM#22
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by JGMIII

 

EQ2 has a pause XP function so players wouldn't out level quest areas.

Zorn you and I both know WoW is a big copy cat MMO. Blizzard takes any good feature in rival mmos and makes it their own.

Stop trying to act like blizzard has even one original feature in WoW.

I can't wait for TOR to release so blizzard could take a few features from that mmo also.


 

No, to my knowledge EQ2 didn't have a complete XP stop and certainly not on a  level up through PvP alternative...

Any links to check it perhaps ?

-----

You couldn't wait for AOC or WAR also. Well they've come and gone and what did we ALL  see ?

New features introduced that let the number one game even have more options.

I can imagine this is again a new nightmare for a Wow hater :))) and well known Wow troll in this Wow forum.  :)))

Read the content patch notes of 3.2: I guess a lot of sleepless nights lay ahead once more :)

 

EQ2 has pvp? EQ2 is a pve game dude. sure it may have some pvp server or whatever but that game would have no need for a Pvp xp shut off.

But it does have a Xp shut off in general so it's basically the same shit.

And no I don't think about WoW 24/7 like you do Zorn lol!

 

Playing: EvE, Ryzom

slntnsnty

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You'll get electrified if you don't strike a pose.

6/18/09 6:51:28 PM#23
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by JGMIII

 

EQ2 has a pause XP function so players wouldn't out level quest areas.

Zorn you and I both know WoW is a big copy cat MMO. Blizzard takes any good feature in rival mmos and makes it their own.

Stop trying to act like blizzard has even one original feature in WoW.

I can't wait for TOR to release so blizzard could take a few features from that mmo also.


 

No, to my knowledge EQ2 didn't have a complete XP stop and certainly not on a  level up through PvP alternative...

Any links to check it perhaps ?

-----

You couldn't wait for AOC or WAR also. Well they've come and gone and what did we ALL  see ?

New features introduced that let the number one game even have more options.

I can imagine this is again a new nightmare for a Wow hater :))) and well known Wow troll in this Wow forum.  :)))

Read the content patch notes of 3.2: I guess a lot of sleepless nights lay ahead once more :)

 

Sorry but you are wrong. EQ2 'has' a complete XP stop feature. It may not have always had it, but I can verify that it has it now. You are correct about PVP, in fact EQ2 is not known for PVP at all.

I am not really sure how that bit of information is relevant to this thread.

 

Zorndorf

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6/18/09 6:54:33 PM#24
Originally posted by templarga
Originally posted by Mystik86

I don't consider this revolutionary at all. In fact, nothing Blizzard does in WoW is revolutionary, but of course it's hard to do anything never done before when you copy things from other games. I don't think players care about innovation in WoW so much as they care about shiny new armor and weapons. I think though that Blizzard could bring in more already-done features to make WoW better, for example: player housing, better roleplay mechanics, more races, better character customization, updated graphics engine and much more...

Funny that you argue that Blizzard has done nothing revolutionary or innovative but everything you suggest is anything but revolutionary or innovative.


 

Apparently taking a subscription based game to 11.5 million players is "nothing revolutionary". Or being the single most succesful video game in 30 years is "nothing revolutionary".

It must be us of course - the morons of hunamity  - who want to pay for this thing you like to hate. Game haters, already the name alone....

While the high horse men play the real games out there, the ones with the empty servers.

Perhaps that's the real revolution of this industry: THINKING you know "it" , while no one else is interested.

Apparently Blizzard are the idiots and we the super morons.

Great it shows a nice attitiude.

 

seabeast

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6/18/09 6:55:22 PM#25
Originally posted by Mystik86

I don't consider this revolutionary at all. In fact, nothing Blizzard does in WoW is revolutionary, but of course it's hard to do anything never done before when you copy things from other games. I don't think players care about innovation in WoW so much as they care about shiny new armor and weapons. I think though that Blizzard could bring in more already-done features to make WoW better, for example: player housing, better roleplay mechanics, more races, better character customization, updated graphics engine and much more...


 

Hi Mystik86,

Not getting  what your fully saying here, while I would think that the vast majority would care about game innovation, I am not sure of the concept behind "shiny new armor and weapons". Are you addressing the actual visual of the armor and weaps or the stats behind them? I concure with your thoughts about bringing in more already-done features you mentioned but, can you imagine the the static WoW would get for doing so? I mean, they bring in one previously attempted element into the game and look at this thread grow, what would happen if they brought the others in?

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