Originally posted by LogothX

Pre-order the game ONLINE. Get your beta key, try the next beta event. Should (when) you not like it, cancel your preorder.

 

There, you just tried the game for free.

 

 

The lore and world is painfully generic, the early game is one of the grindiest pieces of trash I've ever seen, and the end game consists of the most poorly thought out system since the original WoW honor system.

 

The game's pros? Well, the character creator is flexible, and the combat system is FUNCTIONAL. Which shouldn't even be that damn impressive; but people being amazed by something as simple as a working MMO combat system is indicative of how awful this genre's landscape has become.

Some good ideas, but yet again, poor implentation.

 

I'm going to be castrated for the above, but oh well; these tools will agree with me two months after release, tops.

Yes, cuz everyone who disagrees with you must be a tool.  Got it.

raystantz

i think you should try the next beta or go on the ch servers or wait for release and give it a blast for a month and see if YOU like it

i think its great myself its a very refreshing change and i think is worth at least a week or so of your time if you dont like it fair enough thats just your tastes

for me i dont think its anything like wow its more like GW and final fantasy squashed together and like any other mmo you have to grind out your levels be it on mobs or by quests either way its got to be done :)

but dont take my words or anyone elses m8 just play and see if you like it :)

is it like wow? lol of course pretty much any mmo will be somewhat like wow if not they're not that bright. What ncsoft has always done better is pvp, especially large scale MEANINGFUL pvp, something that wow always lacked.

theres about 100+ threads now on this board comparing aion to wow i don't think you really needed to post could of just read all of em.

So ive been reading this thread, there have been some good points and bad points brought up. In my honest opinion, dont listen to anyone here, good or bad. Pay $5 for the pre-order get into the preview event and try the game out. If you like the first 10 levels, then buy the pre-order and play it for a month. You can always cancel it.

For myself, I have purchsed the LE of Aion and will be in this preview weekend only...as I do not wish to spoil my experiance at launch.

Again its very important, that you listen to NO ONE. Make your own decision based on your own experiance, because in the end what we like about Aion may be your bane or vice versa. As far as Logo... LOL no comment.

 If you enjoy rootkits and security vulnerabilities being installed on your computer, yeah, by all means, try it out.

Also keep in mind that a great many MMO's are all the same game formula down below, so if you've played Ultima or one of the older ones, you've seen them all.

Same formulas yes, different communities different storylines, you forget.

Most AAA titles are just more of the same old shit.  If you're looking for something different, you won't find it in a AAA title. Try indie or F2P games. F2P games mostly suck, but because 1 company will run 20 different ones, they are willing to try new things because if 1 fails, its no big deal to them, unlike AoC where Funcom needs the game to be successful.  Indie games are also fun, but the lack of budget shows. Darkfall is a good example of an indie game. Its different and lots of fun but the devs do things ass backwards and it can be frustrating.

Personally, I've tried the other options and I am definately ready to come back to the AAA titles. 

If you're gonna be an Asmodian then no don't play it....

Originally posted by MustaphaMond

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If you will believe some ridiculous reviews (most of which are based on extremely limited game hours over the first 20 lvls), and you don't even want to bother to get the game and try it for yourself, then don't. Don't play the game, don't use your own brain to form your own opinion. Be a follower and allow others to form your opinions for you.

 

 

 

Yes you should think for yourself, but if enough people are saying that the game is a snoozefest for the first 20 levels of a game, then why should I bother? If it's not entertaining in that time frame, then there may be some serious flaws in the game. Personally I'll stick it out for the intial 30 days, but I have found that if I didn't like the game in the first 20 levels (WoW, WAR, AoC, TR as examples) then I definitely didn't like it for the rest of the experience and ended up quitting by the time the subscription ran out.

Originally posted by LogothX

The lore and world is painfully generic, the early game is one of the grindiest pieces of trash I've ever seen, and the end game consists of the most poorly thought out system since the original WoW honor system.

Elaborate please, the end game Abyss points system is one of my favourite features of Aion. And I never even stuck with WoW because I hated its PvP system.

Originally posted by Calind0r

Originally posted by LogothX

The lore and world is painfully generic, the early game is one of the grindiest pieces of trash I've ever seen, and the end game consists of the most poorly thought out system since the original WoW honor system.

Elaborate please, the end game Abyss points system is one of my favourite features of Aion. And I never even stuck with WoW because I hated its PvP system.

Well, if it's your favorite, then I guess I AM VANQUISHED.

Well played, good sir.

I didn´t play the game, so I just post my fears:

-that there isn´t much PvE-content. I.e. bad boring crafting, no housing or other things besides killing.

-that it is a standard 2 factions PvP, where the bigger side wins because the AI will be mostly exploitable.

-that in PvP the ranged classes will dominate because it is harder to find someone who is shooting you in 3D than in 2D (remember underwater battles in games like DAoC etc)

-that there will be many bots.

This is what I am guessing, because I did not have played it yet. So correct me I am wrong.

Originally posted by Herodes

I didn´t play the game, so I just post my fears:

-that there isn´t much PvE-content. I.e. bad boring crafting, no housing or other things besides killing.

-that it is a standard 2 factions PvP, where the bigger side wins because the AI will be mostly exploitable.

-that in PvP the ranged classes will dominate because it is harder to find someone who is shooting you in 3D than in 2D (remember underwater battles in games like DAoC etc)

-that there will be many bots.

This is what I am guessing, because I did not have played it yet. So correct me I am wrong.

Aion at best has:

- Good graphics

- Great gameplay

- A lot of subscribers

- A lot of updates

- A lot of PvP ENDGAME content

Otherwise, the game sucks so bad.

Originally posted by raystantz

I've played every single AAA MMO title on the market. All of them... at length.

No, you do not need to bother with Aion. You need fresh air, sunlight, and exersize.

Originally posted by Syno23

Originally posted by Herodes

I didn´t play the game, so I just post my fears:

-that there isn´t much PvE-content. I.e. bad boring crafting, no housing or other things besides killing.

-that it is a standard 2 factions PvP, where the bigger side wins because the AI will be mostly exploitable.

-that in PvP the ranged classes will dominate because it is harder to find someone who is shooting you in 3D than in 2D (remember underwater battles in games like DAoC etc)

-that there will be many bots.

This is what I am guessing, because I did not have played it yet. So correct me I am wrong.

 

Aion at best has:

- Good graphics

- Great gameplay

- A lot of subscribers

- A lot of updates

- A lot of PvP ENDGAME content

Otherwise, the game sucks so bad.

Hmmm... Good graphics, great gameplay, lots of subscribers and updates, and lots of pvp endgame... sounds like a winner to me :)

But to answer the OP, again, yes, you should definitely give it a try.  What have you got to lose?

Originally posted by EricDanie

Aion does not feel like a WoW clone to me, although this game X clone BS is funny, there's the other topic in this area of the forums that say Aion is like DAoC. 

As a long-time DAoC player, I can say that Aion is NOTHING like DAoC. Two different games. DAoC is a great game and Aion is starting out good -- eventually it may become great.

I really hate game comparisons.

Has anyone tried those Mana and Health energy drinks?  I don't drink energy drinks but thought it was funny and can't image they would be all that great.

So, I got into this conversation a bit late... but here it goes.

I have seen alot of discussion about whether this game is like WoW.  That discussion then branched into a whole variety of game comparisons.  But why are we comparing?

I will come out and say, that Aion looks to me like a game company took their own idea, and polished up the WoW model.  I think Aion has the potential to be a better game than WoW... but that to me is a fairly low standard.  In my opinion I think World of Warcraft is the worst thing that has ever happened to the MMO industry, since every game I have seen released since it is simply a mirror of its rediculously simple mechanic.

Here is the problem I have with those games, of which I can say I have played to a certain extent, havent seen all of the end game contents to all of them, and will not claim to be some sort of expert in all these games.  War, CoH, WoW, LoTR, EQ2, Aion, Conan, and Guild Wars are all games that I have tried, with the same disappointing end result.

Other than EQ2, crafting sucks ass.  There is no depth or thought to any of it, if there is even a crafting system ot speak of.  There is no originality, no customization.  You get the materials, you press the button, watch the bar move, and have the same piece of armor, or weapon, or whatever, that everyone else has.  EQ2 had a decent idea to start, but it was implemented poorly in the beginning, then simplified to a point that has officially made it just as worthless, and even the original EQ2 system wasnt anything spectacular, still no customization... anyone who had the correct materials, could build the same things as everyone else.

Questing, a mandatory requirement in all of those games... unless you feel like going on some rediculous grind-fest, and killing 8million various mobs to level up... start at level 1, with limited power, get to level whatever, and have more powers to choose from.  Grind out gear, reputation, whatever to experience "end game".... which lacks any sort of feeling of achievement.

PvP in all of those games is completely meaningless.  Even in WAR, where taking the opposing factions city is the end all goal, still turns into a meaningless grind.  There is no skill involved what-so-ever, he who has the best gear wins, almost every time.  And god forbid they have a pocket healer behind them.  In WoW, you can get gear... so it is another grind, to get gear, and deal with people that already outgear you... have fun with that.  Warhammer is the same thing, EQ2 same thing, but more meaningless, PvP is simply a reason to go ganking in EQ2.  At least in CoH, gear doesnt exist really... but there is still no skill involved in that PvP system.  I am concerned that Aion is going to be more of the same as what WoW is... just with a bunch of flying around.

Talent trees, trainers, level grind, guilds, instance runs for gear, horribly simplistic harvesting, poor crafting, no community unless you are guilded, or feel like dealing with all the idiots spamming whatever global chat system exists in that game.

No player based anything really.  CoH tried something with the release of CoV, with player bases.  EQ2 has a limited player housing system, but maps, cities, everything are set in stone, as per design, players can do nothing about it.

The game that I havent seen anyone compare to, and maybe none of you have played it, or have just heard the horror stories about its downfall... was Classic, Pre-CU, Star Wars Galaxies.

That game, in its initial design was on to something that no other game has even tried to replicate.  Total player based economy, player created gear, weapons, you name it.  Crafting had depth, originality, personalization.  The people that took the time, created the better gear, but that didnt mean that you couldnt still be a crafter and make decent gear.  There was no level grind, it didnt exist.  You want to be a brawler today, but a marksman tomorrow... then do it.  Everything was open and available.  PvP, though it had its problems, was exactly what PvP should have been, and the direction it was taking with Player cities, and guild owned bases opened it up for some very epic battles.

And skill based, anybody that felt like doing it, could create a character of thier choice of build, and be a viable opponent in PVP, you had to play your character correctly.  It wasnt a game of he who with the best gear wins, gear helped, but didnt define the fight.

And, I havent, in 6 years of MMO gaming, experienced a community like what SWG had.

Did that game have its problems... yes, totally, and I will not even try to defend that.  But anyone who considers them anything of a gamer, that knows anything about that game... cannot honestly sit back... make the comparisons, and say that SWG had the best potential of any MMO that has ever been released to be the best game ever made.
 

World of Warcraft's success comes from a comedy of errors from alot of game developers in the 2003-2004 timeframe, and really good timing for release on their part.  Classic WoW, I do feel was a decent game, it all started to go to hell when they went PVE crazy and released Molten Core, then tried to throw the PVP'ers a bone and released their battlegrounds(Alterac Valley, Warsong Gultch).  BC totally ruined it, and Lich King just highlighted the fact that the game is a complete waste of time.

Somebody needs to come up with something that doesnt have a level grind, and crafting actually means something, and the 'community' doesnt revolve around a global chat channel.  It should have player housing, player cities, and a meaningful PVP system.  Choose to do what you want to do, and not be bound by anything... the way it was in August 2003 in Star Wars Galaxies.

I can honestly say, I am sick of WoW clones, and really sick of WoW.  Its just a shame there isnt anything else to play.

-]V[Disciple

I agree with -]V[Disciple, a Mmo should be more alive and like a real world. You should be able to do Alot of things in it and it should be open for you to explore and do what you want to do in it, whatever it maybe ( ok, not everything.. But most things ^^)
Although I find the "regular" mmo build fun anyways.

I like what I've seen in Aion so far and I think I'll enjoy playing it. And thats the most important things about a game =)
But, there is one thing thats bugging me. And thats endgame lagg, I'll take Warhammer as an example (Not to clash down on the game, its great in its own ways) But, for you that has experienced the endgame in warhammer will know what I'm talking about. Warhammer is about Epic battles and big battlefields and thats what Mytic tried to make and failed. The endgame of Warhammer is filled with Lagg and Server crashes, its gotten better but its still not as it should be. I mean I'm paying for a game thats just lagging xD Thats plane wrong. But, coming to the point.. The endgame in Aion seems to be good, but I wouldent wanna get the game and discover a laggfeast.. You all know anything about this?
 

if you have time to think about it like you did go try this , download vanguard - start a dark elf - start on the dark elfe starting town  (not the island) and go play that for a couple a days - play both the adventure and the diplomacy quest lines. There.. another couple a days gone before new FF hits the shelves... ow and you might have actually enjoyed it, its fun - not to easy and requered the ocational thinking :L