Originally posted by MyDcmbr81

Originally posted by Legsbiter

Originally posted by Vandiego

Ammo?  We're talking about ammo? Not the game?  Not the game?  We're talking about ammo?  Not the game that we go out there and die for and play every life like it's our last.  We're not talking about the game.  We're talking about ammo.  I mean how silly is that, we're talking about ammo.  I'm not shovin it aside like it don't mean anything.  I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.  But we talkin about ammo, man, what're we talking about.  Ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We ain't talking about the game, we're talkin about ammo man.    We're talking about ammo man, not even the game, the actual game that matters, we're talking about ammo.

 

Allen Iverson is a genius.

 

I also think that we're talking about ammo and not the game,

 

Are you sure we are talking about ammo and not the game? Cuz I really thought we were talking about the game......

ok wtf is this... because I missed the point this whole thing...

Originally posted by gthreeno

...they discovered the Power Shards?

I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.

So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.

WHY.

Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.

WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 

Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.

It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.

This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?

...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)

Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...

 

Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

As far as I can tell, the whole concept behind the Power Shards was to give more "hardcore" players the option of getting better things. You can spend the money to buy these shards, get the best buff foods, etc. or choose not to and not be totally left out. It really is just an additional option for those players who like to maximize their characters.

I personally do not like the fact that there is no mob-tagging in some cases, but for the most part it seems necessary and even helpful in PvP situations. At levels 1-20 it is just plain annoying if you have some moron following you around or people stealing specific mobs from you that you need for quests.

As far as movement is concerned, I'm sure you've seen what other people have said in this thread.

And as someone else has already said, there is only instancing in the first two zones. The main city and everything beyond that is not instanced. Seems the developers realized that it would be quite an annoyance to start the game and have to compete with a thousand or more people for the same mobs (since there is only one starting area per faction). I personally have not gotten far past 20 in the Chinese release, but I assume that the areas either open up more or the population of players will drop off considerably after the second zone.

Originally posted by lornphoenix

 

ok wtf is this... because I missed the point this whole thing...

it's slightly off, but only slightly. basically the 'ammo' reference is pointing out that the OP was griping about something as absurd and non-effectual as the presents of ammo in the game.

soul shots in L2 were more of a power boost to any skill you chose to spend one on. they were so useful that most players (read: every player) considered them a must -- like an archer would buy arrows, but all players had them on them to boost there skill power.

so the point was basically to point out that this is not something that should be focused on as a bad or good thing. it's kind of pointless, and i agree. saying you see a similarity to L2 in the power shots and that is a problem is kind of like saying "this game has food and drink in it that give buffs, that reminds me of WoW so i don't think i want to play"

Power shards in aion and soul shots in L2 do not function the same way. 

Power shards on give a small amount of MELEE damage added (10, 20, and so on).  When your weapon + skill is bursting over 2k damage shards mean very little to your over all damage output.

Sometimes people just need to do a little testing to find things out and not jump the gun.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Power shards in aion and soul shots in L2 do not function the same way. 

Power shards on give a small amount of MELEE damage added (10, 20, and so on).  When your weapon + skill is bursting over 2k damage shards mean very little to your over all damage output.

Sometimes people just need to do a little testing to find things out and not jump the gun.

I did not get to play much in the beta and I haven't even thought about playing the chinese version, so I never really got a chance to fully test it out. So thank you for clarifying... hopefully they won't get out of control, at least to the point to where players would feel the need to keep stacks of shards with them 100% of the time.

Originally posted by InSane103

As far as I can tell, the whole concept behind the Power Shards was to give more "hardcore" players the option of getting better things. You can spend the money to buy these shards, get the best buff foods, etc. or choose not to and not be totally left out. It really is just an additional option for those players who like to maximize their characters.

I personally do not like the fact that there is no mob-tagging in some cases, but for the most part it seems necessary and even helpful in PvP situations. At levels 1-20 it is just plain annoying if you have some moron following you around or people stealing specific mobs from you that you need for quests.

As far as movement is concerned, I'm sure you've seen what other people have said in this thread.

And as someone else has already said, there is only instancing in the first two zones. The main city and everything beyond that is not instanced. Seems the developers realized that it would be quite an annoyance to start the game and have to compete with a thousand or more people for the same mobs (since there is only one starting area per faction). I personally have not gotten far past 20 in the Chinese release, but I assume that the areas either open up more or the population of players will drop off considerably after the second zone.

Thanks for reply. This gave me a little more confidence in the game.

Originally posted by ardohain

Originally posted by lornphoenix

 

ok wtf is this... because I missed the point this whole thing...

 

it's slightly off, but only slightly. basically the 'ammo' reference is pointing out that the OP was griping about something as absurd and non-effectual as the presents of ammo in the game.

soul shots in L2 were more of a power boost to any skill you chose to spend one on. they were so useful that most players (read: every player) considered them a must -- like an archer would buy arrows, but all players had them on them to boost there skill power.

so the point was basically to point out that this is not something that should be focused on as a bad or good thing. it's kind of pointless, and i agree. saying you see a similarity to L2 in the power shots and that is a problem is kind of like saying "this game has food and drink in it that give buffs, that reminds me of WoW so i don't think i want to play"

Exactly, I was just making the point that the OP was making a mountain out of a molehill, where the shards aka ammo have little impact on your overall damage, unlike in L2.

I just had some fun with it and used a infamous rant by Allen Iverson with a bit of creative editing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

Originally posted by Vandiego

Originally posted by ardohain

Originally posted by lornphoenix

 

ok wtf is this... because I missed the point this whole thing...

 

it's slightly off, but only slightly. basically the 'ammo' reference is pointing out that the OP was griping about something as absurd and non-effectual as the presents of ammo in the game.

soul shots in L2 were more of a power boost to any skill you chose to spend one on. they were so useful that most players (read: every player) considered them a must -- like an archer would buy arrows, but all players had them on them to boost there skill power.

so the point was basically to point out that this is not something that should be focused on as a bad or good thing. it's kind of pointless, and i agree. saying you see a similarity to L2 in the power shots and that is a problem is kind of like saying "this game has food and drink in it that give buffs, that reminds me of WoW so i don't think i want to play"

 

Exactly, I was just making the point that the OP was making a mountain out of a molehill, where the shards aka ammo have little impact on your overall damage, unlike in L2.

I just had some fun with it and used a infamous rant by Allen Iverson with a bit of creative editing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

 

Thank you. Now it make more senses.

@Topic starter

This game has moving pixels as well. maybe you should consider playing another game ^_^

I thought the exact same thing and still do honestly,  SS were the worst trash ever made just to promote more farming and gold sinks.  

For a melee class they made just about all the attack skills pointless, the animations took longer than just spamming soulshots and for a mage they made your spells do triple damage if you could afford the good ones.   Without them you were worthless.  

I've been told that they aren't as extreem in Aion, I hope the damage is ballanced without the use of them and that they are there for those who want them...

somehow tho I doubt it 

Originally posted by gthreeno

...they discovered the Power Shards?

I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.

So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.

WHY.

Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.

WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 

Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.

It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.

This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?

...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)

Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...

 

Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

I have an opinion about your opinion.

For one complaining about the power shards seems to me a bit pickish..me, I have never purchased any and I have 2 full stacks and some in the bank. I only use them when I PVP since they only add a little damage and yesterday I hit lvl 32 and PVPed most of the time I was on and totaled 68 kills....I only had the shards turned on about 20% of that time.

And for me "some/most" of the things you complain about are a bit like complaining that diff. cars have standard tinted windows, auto door locks or that they both use gas... Granted some things copied or reproduced from game to game or product to product can be a bad thing but allot are practical or good or can't easily be avoided.

Sounds to me your on the extreme pesimistic side of thing and barely gave it a chance...if you had spent any time to fully check out the game one would think you may have discovered something that I even discoved in the first few hours of play time....like auto movement can be completely turned off.

its just ammo, not the game....your talking about ammo here.

 I didnt even know the things had to be turned on. haha I got tons too. Farm enough, kill enough, and loot always and you will have plenty of ammo....allen dont like ammo but its only ammo.....

I have gotten great loot from npcs in the last beta and as a loot ho who loves wings I liked the game overall.

Community sucked so far I hope it gets better...........but than again its just beta its only beta we are talking about here not the game.........