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  Keridwen

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Joined: 6/13/09
Posts: 65

"Femmmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMO"

 
6/13/09 2:41:26 AM#1


Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue.

(1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear.

(2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them.

(3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls.

(4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons

(5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g  tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups.

(6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms.

(7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes.

(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

(9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon :)

 

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Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR

  Kurush

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6/13/09 2:48:46 AM#2

We'll see. While I don't believe post count measures the merit of a poster, I do believe it can be a good counter-indicator toward simply being a shill. I'm not saying you are, but I am saying that I will likely take your opinion with a grain of salt. To date, you've had 3 posts. Two of them are glowing recommendations of Aion, and one briefly talks about DAoC.

Is this a new account? I could have sworn there was another poster with a very similar name on the forums not long ago.

  IAmMMO

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Joined: 5/17/08
Posts: 1109

6/13/09 2:49:10 AM#3

Sounds like they best just play DAOC if it's the DAOC features they so desire in a MMO. No need to hop to another more of the same MMO, but with a bit of flight thrown in.

  Kyleran

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6/13/09 2:56:06 AM#4

Now if it only had 8 man groups it could have been perfect.

But I agree, more and more, its sounding like Aion might be more akin to DAOC than any other game in recent years.

  Azntranc3

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Joined: 9/05/08
Posts: 168

6/13/09 2:59:47 AM#5
Originally posted by IAmMMO

Sounds like they best just play DAOC if it's the DAOC features they so desire in a MMO. No need to hop to another more of the same MMO, but with a bit of flight thrown in.

There are many things wrong with your statement:

1) DAoC is very old  and out-of-date

2) Even if Aion has many of the old features that were in DAoC , Aion improves on it.

3) DAoC is pretty much dead, you can't have a true RvR if only 2 people play it (greatly exaggerated I know, but you get my point)

4) Remember EQ? Remember WoW? Eq had good features, many people like the features in EQ because it was good for both hardcores and casuals, WoW took that approach and improved on it. What you're saying is, if people liked the features in EQ so much why not stay in EQ?

The answer is because games like EQ and DAoC are getting old, their features are getting old, they need polish or repairs and what WoW and Aion does is improves those features.

Finally, your point about how games with the same features but slightly new twists really irks me in a bad way.

It's like saying, the original Ipod had good features, many people liked it, but they released new Ipods, like the Ipod Nano. If people liked the old Ipod so much why not stick with the old Ipod? Because people want something new, not old.

  Keridwen

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Joined: 6/13/09
Posts: 65

"Femmmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMO"

 
6/13/09 3:01:09 AM#6
Originally posted by Kurush

We'll see. While I don't believe post count measures the merit of a poster, I do believe it can be a good counter-indicator toward simply being a shill. I'm not saying you are, but I am saying that I will likely take your opinion with a grain of salt. To date, you've had 3 posts. Two of them are glowing recommendations of Aion, and one briefly talks about DAoC.

Is this a new account? I could have sworn there was another poster with a very similar name on the forums not long ago.

 

My old account "Keridwan" which I had for 3 years was password hacked by a supposed "friend".  :(

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  spades07

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6/13/09 3:02:44 AM#7


Originally posted by IAmMMO
Sounds like they best just play DAOC if it's the DAOC features they so desire in a MMO. No need to hop to another more of the same MMO, but with a bit of flight thrown in.

Except DAoC is nearing 9 years old.. The OP is posting a new game with features that maybe appealling for fans of DAoC. (and non-DAoC fans(me), as those features do sound interesting)

  User Deleted
6/13/09 3:03:49 AM#8

Aion is NOTHING like DAoC, and this is probably the worst comparison I've ever seen.

  Keridwen

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Joined: 6/13/09
Posts: 65

"Femmmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMO"

 
6/13/09 3:06:31 AM#9
Originally posted by solareus

Aion is NOTHING like DAoC, and this is probably the worst comparison I've ever seen.

 

I offered some good reasons why AION is the best option for ex DAoC veterans and a couple of reasons why it is better than DAoC. I don't see ANY reasons at all from you why Aion is NOTHING like DAoC. Why bother with such a vacuous comment?

Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.

Played:
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  xfrozenx

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6/13/09 3:11:14 AM#10
Originally posted by Keridwen


Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server and this game is immense. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue.

(1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR.

(2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them.

(3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls.

(4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs.

(5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g  tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups.

(6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms.

(7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes.

(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

(9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon :)

 

 

I don't know about that. However; I'm doing a big review tomorrow on Aion. Started playing it today with the English patch and I'm LOVING it. Mix of Perfect World, WOW, Lineage 2 (Especially O Course), Requiem Bloodymare, Silkroad, and even a few other games. It's almost like they took 10 of the most popular games (A few not being so popular) and mixed them all together in one. It's going to be a very popular game over here in the states.  I'm going to order my collectors edition next week along with the new computer I'm building for it as well as other new games coming out.

 

I'm only level 9 but based on what I've seen and how unique pvp is after level 25, I'm giving it a 8.5/10 so far. All you DAOC Vets come on over.


  augustgrace

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Joined: 1/29/06
Posts: 493

6/13/09 3:16:19 AM#11

I haven't gotten a chance to play yet, but plan to play this next weekend, and have been rather confused as to why people keep comparing this game to WoW rather than DAoC.  I rather agree with your points and look forward to a DAoC like experience.

  Kurush

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Posts: 1227

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6/13/09 3:42:46 AM#12
Originally posted by Keridwen
Originally posted by solareus

Aion is NOTHING like DAoC, and this is probably the worst comparison I've ever seen.

 

I offered some good reasons why AION is the best option for ex DAoC veterans and a couple of reasons why it is better than DAoC. I don't see ANY reasons at all from you why Aion is NOTHING like DAoC. Why bother with such a vacuous comment?

 

Well, I don't think it's anything malicious.  Peel back the veil a bit, and people's motivations tend to become apparent.

You obviously like DAoC a great deal.  You additionally like Aion.

If you look at Solareus's posts, almost all of them are on the Aion boards.  He too is likely a big fan of Aion.  His motivation is likely not that he dislikes Aion.  Rather, he likes it and/or has a lot of hope for its NA release, but your idealized version of the game is very different from his.

If you look at how he posts, he tends toward sarcasm or cynicism when confronted with direct optimism and/or enthusiasm, so that's merely his way of saying things.

You two might very well be different sides of the same coin.

  Forumfall

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Joined: 10/01/08
Posts: 583

6/13/09 6:53:41 AM#13

I am also playing chinese aion. What he said is true.

Is my post count enough?

  Yamota

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6/13/09 7:06:31 AM#14
Originally posted by Keridwen
(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

 

 

What does that mean?

Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

  bobbler

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Joined: 1/29/04
Posts: 814

6/13/09 7:12:45 AM#15

this is driving me crazy, how is everyone playing Aion but me :(. Can someone enlighten me on how to register to play it?

  Keridwen

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Joined: 6/13/09
Posts: 65

"Femmmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMO"

 
6/13/09 8:24:18 AM#16
Originally posted by Forumfall

I am also playing chinese aion. What he said is true.

Is my post count enough?

 

ha ha ... cute, thanks my dear. But *cough* what she said is true would be preferable :)

Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.

Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR

  Bakoryo

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Joined: 7/14/02
Posts: 424

6/13/09 8:32:51 AM#17
Originally posted by Keridwen
Originally posted by Forumfall

I am also playing chinese aion. What he said is true.

Is my post count enough?

 

ha ha ... cute, thanks my dear. But *cough* what she said is true would be preferable :)

 

Being a female reviewer doesn't give cred points! :D 

 

But yeah, i used to love DaoC, maybe i should give Aion another shot really. I didn't really get into the "feel" of it. I'll see what i'll do  or if there will be another beta batch thingy laters.

The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon

  Ihmotepp

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6/13/09 10:43:13 AM#18

No PvE grind for gear? That's not like DAoC.

  Ihmotepp

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Posts: 14557

6/13/09 10:45:25 AM#19
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Keridwen
(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

 

 

What does that mean?

Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

 

Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

  Wicoa

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Joined: 1/08/07
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6/13/09 10:48:30 AM#20
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Keridwen
(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

 

 

What does that mean?

Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

 

Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

I dont know I bet he scores the chicks!

  superpata

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Posts: 104

6/13/09 12:22:30 PM#21

If they like women they might be interested on him

  Keridwen

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Posts: 65

"Femmmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMO"

 
6/13/09 7:10:23 PM#22

 

 What does that mean?

Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

 

Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

 

Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"

'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.

Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.

There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!

Are these AION images anime?

http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/

http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/

Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.

Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR

  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
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6/13/09 7:22:29 PM#23

Why not spout more nonsense.  Played both and Aion is absolutely  nothing like DAoC in any shape or form.

This has to be one of the more ridiculous posts on this board, bar none.

  deathtripp

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Joined: 10/07/06
Posts: 259

6/13/09 7:26:16 PM#24
Originally posted by Keridwen


Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue.

(1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear.

(2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them.

(3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls.

(4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs.

(5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g  tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups.

(6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms.

(7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes.

(8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist.

(9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon :)

 

Pure genius. You can fight in the air... unlike DAOC... It's elitist... unlike DAOC... 6 man groups... unlike DAOC... No PVE grind for gear (Trials of Atlantis anyone...)... unlike DAOC.
 

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  deathtripp

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Posts: 259

6/13/09 7:27:45 PM#25
Originally posted by Keridwen

 

 What does that mean?

Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

 

Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

 

Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"

'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.

Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.

There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!

Are these AION images anime?

http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/

http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/

Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.
 

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