Originally posted by NeverLand7

 
Also, UO's graphics were fine when it was first created so are you telling me that technology has not properly evolved?

yes!

Take vangaurd, its the nearest thing to a huge open world with amazing graphics.  whats the biggest complaint I get from people I get when asking the to try it?

the size of the download, its like 20gig!... before they have even looked at a single screenshot or played the game they refuse.

a modern day UO would be an epic task of mammoth proportions that no mmo company would ever undertake.

sorry, your just living in a dream world.

While I totally disagree with most everything the OP said, I do also think that UO was the best game ever...

I have been looking for a game to fill that void for a long time.

But honestly, the style of that game wouldn't work today. It was hardcore beyond the point most gamers today would be able to handle. It was FULL of repetitive tasks and it did take a long time to get to the endgame (at least to be truly competitive in PvP)... perhaps even longer than it does in modern MMOs.

I was all about that type of hardcore gameplay at that time, but I don't think even I could handle a game like that anymore. I think your memory of the game is very skewed by your good feelings towards it.

      I just never felt that UO was all that much fun myself........I thiunk some players enjoyed the fear factor that was in the game but the graphics were so bad and the gankfest community was a big turn off.......I tried UO when it first came out and hated it...... Thank goodness EQ came along or  i probably never would have got into online gaming.

Originally posted by Eladi

*Signs*

If Uo was sooooo great, and its soo good, and sooo fun.. why the hell aint ye playing it!..becource its old, its grindy,its repetive.. but its good you remember the good things.. memories are sweet

but thats it and keep it that way, a good memory to treasure.

and dont come complaining about expansion packs killing the game,  uo still runs becource of those. besites all ellements you talk about is still in the game. and You left it.. ..
Games need chance, players need new games. you will always leave the game you love, it gets boring, You dont like a expansion set, you have a chance in live.. does not mather.

there are no good games, there only games You , they or I like.

 

UO is not the same, it has been utterly destroyed by it's so-called "Expansion" packs. I was a big fan of the Ultima universe even before UO, it was an awesome setting and pre-expansions when Origin were running the show it had one of the best PvP and crafting experience you'll find on an mmo.

Then EA came in and added Trammel, Elves, Ninjas, Samurai's, neon hair/cloth colours, item-centric gameplay ala WOW and bug beetle mounts you'll forgive me in saying they fucked up the game slightly.

People left of course and never came back.... at it's peak UO was the ultimate mmo experience (countless guild memorial websites left untounched from the good-times, speak for it's self) and I for one cherish the time I had to spend playing it. Nearest thing you'll get to that now is a private shard with a low pop.. But I'd give a lot to be transported back to 97-99 with 5000 people on the shard with the old ruleset, even with the dated graphics.

But that won't happen so I sit and wait for it's successor. Strangely Eve Online has come the closest so far to recreating the experience, despite an utterly different theme.

The nice thing about UO was you could log in and do whatever. There wasn't really any endgame you felt you had to chase down and get to as fast as possible. One day you could do some blacksmithing, another cooking, another tailoring, or just explore the world. Items were random, dynamic, and not as locked down to certain mobs or areas. You could go into Covetous 10 times and come out with different experiences. Raising skills felt more like a journey and side thought rather than a job/chore.

People have been asking for a 3d version of UO for a long time, but nobody is making it. THere are a few features you'd probably have to live without.

Probably have to get rid of building a house anywhere, and items that you can drop which don't decay. Otherwise, it's completely doable, but again, nobody's doing it as far as I know.

Ah the fond memories of UO!  Loved that game and its open concept.  Also remember when they were developing UO X, but alas the game never made it to release, that was a sad day when they pulled the plug

I compleatly disagree with the OP. I loved UO and it had nothing to do with character progression. If I wanted a certain skill I spent a week or so grinding it out. That was not the fun part. What was cool though was the fact that I knew what to do and how long it would take to get it to GM. 

What I liked was the way the game fit into my time constraints. I liked all the play options I could sell realestate. I could build houses I could make barrels of potions I could play the reagents commidites markets, make and sell rune books and damn near everything else in the game. At the time PvP was exciting if I lost the fight or got caught out with my mule full of reagents I would be very very sorry. But if i was quick i could throw up a portal and escape. These were awesome game mechanics for the time.

The sheer amount of fluff kept me playing that game for years I was a rich merchant I had a shop on the road out of town. It was fun and exciting to log in and see what had been purchased or if perhaps a lizard man had wandered into the house and gotten stuck was waiting there to eat me. it was diverse. It was the RPG of MMORPG that madeUO fun. oh i dont mean the silly "hail and well met" business but the fact that you got to play the game the way you wanted to.

Games today have glossed over the RPG and concentraded on the MMO and i think its the reason we arent seeing any WoW killers.

Signed

Trader Vic
Catskills.

Ultima online was the best . End down. TOday mmorpg just pale in comparison.I'm still playing Ultima online .. yet i played age of Fail for 2 month and i'm having more fun in a free t2a shard.

because in Uo your role was more defined.You was either a treasure hunter ..  a murderer .. a glorious lord or a vilainous thief.You could be a blacksmith or a dreaded tinkerer.Or a hard worker miner.Your role was much more defined and that made the immersion 100 time better than any recent mmorpg right now.No stupid Public chat with looser spamming it all day . No /send .. .. Your immersion was just improved and each encounter with player and monster was unique.

Has for the graphic i love them.The graphic capture well the essence of the world.Even in 1997 the graphic were very ugly.Because it's not in 3D.Kinda like Diablo 2 in 2001.But it's captured the essence of the game.No chosen one crap or *path* to follow . Sure you had some kind of grinding.But it's a mmorpg.But it's was not retarded like the theme park game today.

Some people refuse to play outdated game.They're just a bunch of follower and brainswashed tool.Uo  still own .So continue to play your game with boob physic i don't give a fuck :) . It's still just pixel in your screen.You're more easy to *buy* than a slut during a busy hours at a crossroad while a bunch of horny brats come across.

Uo own everything.Especialy UO2A

 Dear EA,

Please port the original release of UO into a $9.99 iTunes / iPhone application.

Sincerely yours,

-KalTheo

Originally posted by KalTheo

 Dear EA,

Please port the original release of UO into a $9.99 iTunes / iPhone application.

Sincerely yours,

-KalTheo

Oh it would so freaking rock.. Pre trammel Iphone only server. :)
 

Reason why it was the best game for you? Because the word grind wasn't invented yet.

I agree, UO was a different kind of experience. And by far the best experience. I hated the PKing, but it was still the best game. There was no levelling past "zones". The closest thing to "zones" they had was the lower levels of dungeons, and a few land based spawn points, where higher skills made you more able, but even those areas were accessable.

UO wasn't based solely on skills or levels. There were many other aspects of game play. Yes, there was grind, but a maxed out character wasn't the be-all and end-all of the game play. And a maxed character and a newbie could work together in a guild, or just as friends.

I miss the rare item collections, the player run communities and events ( players could do a lot with the ability to drop items on the ground or on tables, etc.), the rune libraries as well as player written book libraries (which included the official game books as well as official event books which were also rare items), the player run museums of rare items and event items, the feeling of having a "home" in a specific area (whether it was the city where you banked, your guild's house/tower/castle, or your own house), the player run taverns and towns, the "hidden locations", the mysteries of Mondain and the FOA and the entire lore and events, and so much more.

UO probably has the best immersion of any MMO. That's probably thanks in large part to how easily the game lends itself to social interaction. You could honestly play for days and not kill a thing or work on making money and that whole time you would be completely entertained by how much fluff was in the game.

It truly did feel like a medieval fantasy world. The architecture and armor was simple and believable while there was a true fear of bandits or PKs if you had to travel the roads.

Originally posted by Jester47

UO probably has the best immersion of any MMO. That's probably thanks in large part to how easily the game lends itself to social interaction. You could honestly play for days and not kill a thing or work on making money and that whole time you would be completely entertained by how much fluff was in the game.

It truly did feel like a medieval fantasy world. The architecture and armor was simple and believable while there was a true fear of bandits or PKs if you had to travel the roads.

Exactly. UO was my first MMO and I loved it. The thrill of going outside of towns and really knowing that you were risking something. Nowadays they all want it easy. Nothing can have consequences and everything has to be cooky cutter stuff.

I thought SWG came pretty close to the UO concept, although it had a lot missing still.

Bring me a MMO with modern day graphics but the UO concept and gameplay and I'd sign up right away. You really could do anything you wanted in that game. Good memories.

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Originally posted by kivech

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Originally posted by Jester47

UO probably has the best immersion of any MMO. That's probably thanks in large part to how easily the game lends itself to social interaction. You could honestly play for days and not kill a thing or work on making money and that whole time you would be completely entertained by how much fluff was in the game.
It truly did feel like a medieval fantasy world. The architecture and armor was simple and believable while there was a true fear of bandits or PKs if you had to travel the roads.

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Exactly. UO was my first MMO and I loved it. The thrill of going outside of towns and really knowing that you were risking something. Nowadays they all want it easy. Nothing can have consequences and everything has to be cooky cutter stuff.
I thought SWG came pretty close to the UO concept, although it had a lot missing still.
Bring me a MMO with modern day graphics but the UO concept and gameplay and I'd sign up right away. You really could do anything you wanted in that game. Good memories.

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I agree with you. I'd loved to see UO with good graphics.

I never played UO in its prime but the game is exactly the sort of thing I want to play! I have played it in its current form but I obviously missed the boat :-P

Originally posted by NeverLand7

I do somewhat agree with the OP that it would be nice to see some games take UO's game design instead of all of the EQ/WoW designed mmorpgs we have.

Which would be Mortal Online.

Originally posted by suprez

Some people refuse to play outdated game.They're just a bunch of follower and brainswashed tool.Uo  still own .So continue to play your game with boob physic i don't give a fuck :) . It's still just pixel in your screen.You're more easy to *buy* than a slut during a busy hours at a crossroad while a bunch of horny brats come across.

Uo own everything.Especialy UO2A

 

Wow!  I share  your opinion, for the most part, but you appear ignorant with this pointless rant;  tone down the potty mouth man... they are just games.