Lets say you are the head of a massive software company, lets say you have a pretty good corner on the MMO market. Say 10 million subscriptions, you are living the high life in the penthouse. Your company profits a nice tidy 500 million a year. But wait, there is a new MMO coming out, direct competition and its serious.....

You enter the war room, marketing is there, customer service, managment from all departments. You go over the numbers, 10% hit, omg 50 million gone.... 20% hit 100 million gone.... its decided, time for the TROLLS.

They crawl out from under the bridge and decend with unforgiving fury upon the potential competition...

If you don't think this is the way business works, you are in the dark. Business is total cut throat. !0% hit is serious business. 20, 30 and 40% is devastating.

The companies don't have to do it any more since a minority of players are so blinded that they think they are on a crusade.

Aion fans are as much to blame for this. It's clear when you see threads "Aion vs WoW" pop up every other day.

Originally posted by Warpiglet

Lets say you are the head of a massive software company, lets say you have a pretty good corner on the MMO market. Say 10 million subscriptions, you are living the high life in the penthouse. Your company profits a nice tidy 500 million a year. But wait, there is a new MMO coming out, direct competition and its serious.....

You enter the war room, marketing is there, customer service, managment from all departments. You go over the numbers, 10% hit, omg 50 million gone.... 20% hit 100 million gone.... its decided, time for the TROLLS.

They crawl out from under the bridge and decend with unforgiving fury upon the potential competition...

If you don't think this is the way business works, you are in the dark. Business is total cut throat. !0% hit is serious business. 20, 30 and 40% is devastating.

This thread is rather pointless. I'd suggest you go get a business up and running before you speculate on how they work.

first of most companies don't even care about this sites forums besides giving out some beta keys. sorry to say this thread is pointless and should be closed by a mod

Originally posted by Frostbite05

first of most companies don't even care about this sites forums besides giving out some beta keys. sorry to say this thread is pointless and should be closed by a mod

Exactly, and I  see that the OP's already been reported, so hopefully the thread will be deleted or locked by a Mod.

This post is valuable, I find it highly unlikely you will get your deletion wish. It will point out that the potential for misinformation within these forums is quite high. I suggest for those people curious about AION to pretty much ignore some of the rubish posted within this forum and do some research for yourself. View some videos on youtube, view other forums and when its here play the open beta to get a real feel for this game.

As far as business practices, its pretty much a ffa and quite cutthroat. Slant drilling, hostile take overs, price wars, patent infringement, law suits, etc.

As far as Blizzard trolls, there are many people who would freely troll for this organization even if Blizzard is not supporting it.

did you really list price wars?  sorry, gaming simply doesn't see price wars.  any AAA title will cost you $50-$60. (when they are new) and they all charge the same based on when they came out.  they started under $10, then went to 12, now 15.  I don't see Aion undercutting blizz by a few bucks to get more subs, no one does.

Aion will sell for $50 because thats what people expect to pay.  so will Lineage3, and blizz's new MMO when they come out.

Blizzard doesn't fund trolls because they don't need to.  you don't need to pay a fanboi to trash other games, and them saying that stuff really makes no difference.

hope the thread gets closed soon, its just another tinfoil hat theory that we've all seen too many times.

Originally posted by Majinash

hope the thread gets closed soon, its just another tinfoil hat theory that we've all seen too many times.

Please, Blizzard are way too much interested to keep their reputation to troll forums of other games. Wow players and fans are of course another thing but as far as I know, no major game company have ever got caught doing this and there is no evidence of it.

We seen the same accusations in many forums of other games, but without any proofs whatsoever this is just trolling in itself. So, give us something that even hints that this is the point.

Besides, fans of games are usually a lot more rabid than the people making them, Tasos and Barnett excluded.

Originally posted by Loke666

Besides, fans of games are usually a lot more rabid than the people making them, Tasos and Barnett excluded.

I don't think Barnett was rabid so much as, not having a grip on reality.  Tasos on the other hand, seems to fit right in with his chumps errrr subscribers.

Originally posted by Majinash

did you really list price wars?  sorry, gaming simply doesn't see price wars.  any AAA title will cost you $50-$60. (when they are new) and they all charge the same based on when they came out.  they started under $10, then went to 12, now 15.  I don't see Aion undercutting blizz by a few bucks to get more subs, no one does.

 

Aion will sell for $50 because thats what people expect to pay.  so will Lineage3, and blizz's new MMO when they come out.

 

Blizzard doesn't fund trolls because they don't need to.  you don't need to pay a fanboi to trash other games, and them saying that stuff really makes no difference.

 

hope the thread gets closed soon, its just another tinfoil hat theory that we've all seen too many times.

lol, I'm surprised you didn't say there is no slant drilling in games. Since you have so much trouble determining the meaing of the business section of my post i'll simplifiy it for you. Business, was a general term I used for all business models, you seem to think I said Gaming business. If I had of said Gaming business then I would look like a fool because we all know slant drilling really has nothing to do with gaming. lol.

I suggest you pay closer attention to what you are reading and not make invalid assumptions.

All the game are normally priced around the same, but compared to others I think AION will be worth it.

lmao what a lame thread. OP did you read what you said? yeah like Blizzard with 11MILLION players is really worried about a NEW.. sorry OLD graphics engine game. lol this was really funny

Originally posted by Warpiglet

Lets say you are the head of a massive software company, lets say you have a pretty good corner on the MMO market. Say 10 million subscriptions, you are living the high life in the penthouse. Your company profits a nice tidy 500 million a year. But wait, there is a new MMO coming out, direct competition and its serious.....

You enter the war room, marketing is there, customer service, managment from all departments. You go over the numbers, 10% hit, omg 50 million gone.... 20% hit 100 million gone.... its decided, time for the TROLLS.

They crawl out from under the bridge and decend with unforgiving fury upon the potential competition...

If you don't think this is the way business works, you are in the dark. Business is total cut throat. !0% hit is serious business. 20, 30 and 40% is devastating.

if you really believe thats how blizzard does business you need medication and hospitalization.  not to mention a solid tin hat, since tin foil wont keep the cia from reading your brainwaves and transmitting them to blizzard since its all a big friggin conspiracy.

have you been under a rock for the last 15 years?  you make it sound like blizzard just slapped some game together and "conned" 12 million people into playing it.  lemme guess.  they had the help of the world government illuminati spies to hold parents at gunpoint, threaten terrorist and bio weapon attacks in order to force all those poor innocent helpless people to play such a horrible game and profess passionately that they in fact, love it.

seriously, are you doing drugs right now?  which ones did you take?  show me where the bad man touched you!  call poison control now because although it may not seem like it, i think theres a possibility that you overdosed on a controlled substance.

if Michael Morhaime has shown the industry anything in the last 15 years, hes shown his tenacity.  Mind you, im not in love with the dude either.  Hell, you could call me disgruntled.  But that said, if hes shown anything, hes shown he runs a company that pays attention to its customers.  He's shown his company has listened carefully to the marketplace and whipped his development teams into making the right product and releasing it at the right time.  most importantly, hes shown no matter how much success blizzard gets, its never enough for mike.  that mans insatiable.  

warcraft, warcraft 2, starcraft, starcraft II, diablo, diablo 2, and finally *gasp* world of warcraft.

look at that list.  did ANY of those games just flat out suck so bad that nobody bought them?  Blizzard has earned every penny theyve made thus far and GG for them on that.

Listen, im glad you found a game you like.  You should focus on that an getting your friends to play it with you.  

If you think you have to tear another game down to convince your friends to play it with you, then the game you like sucks in the first place and more imporatntly, you know it.

for the record, i dont play wow, and im not going to play aion.  it just pisses me off when i log onto this site sometimes to see the absolutley insane rantings of someone who should be heavilly medicated.

nobody is "sending trolls" onto any forums by another company to tear them down.  thats the most absolutely insane bs ive ever read on an mmo site in the 12 or so years ive been playing these games.

you need help

...Blizzard Trolls? Something you expect from Mythic, but not Blizzard, not that Im a huge fan of theirs, by any stretch of the imagination.

Well i think the OP has a real point.  I can tell you as along time MMO player WoW has become so main stream enough for the "normal population". The shear amount of people that play the game mean the game population is gona include a few crazy people. When you hear of funerals being done for real life people you know things have changed. Thats said the poplation includes a fair amount of people that feel personaly attached to the game. The reasons could be they feel thier ultimate toon on WOW would all of the sudden not be as impresive to his fellow guildies playing on the "next game", or perhaps  a old beta tester  stories of the old days would fall of deaf ears.  There are going to be trolls from wow.  Aion will steal players from all games not just WOW.  \We cant assume all the trolls will  be from wow.  So its not blizzards trolls. SO burn the trolls case by case. I also have to say the WOW fans should really stop thinking wow is the perfect game that all mmos should be judged next to it.  If you enjoy playing a game that even dumb children can excel at you may want to try a more involved game before crying about how a game will fail because its NOT WoW.

Don't even feed this guy.  He's in his own little world.

Originally posted by Loke666

Please, Blizzard are way too much interested to keep their reputation to troll forums of other games. Wow players and fans are of course another thing but as far as I know, no major game company have ever got caught doing this and there is no evidence of it.

We seen the same accusations in many forums of other games, but without any proofs whatsoever this is just trolling in itself. So, give us something that even hints that this is the point.

Besides, fans of games are usually a lot more rabid than the people making them, Tasos and Barnett excluded.

You are absolutely right regarding reputation. Would the United States admit to spying, social disruption and sabotage in Iran? However we all know there are covert operations being conducted in Iran by the United States.

It is not beyond the realm of possibility that some Blizzard employees would pounce on a competitive game, I know I defend my company to the limit because i am loyal. However I do believe the vast majority if not all the misinformation in the AION forums is being posted by WoW fanatics.

Blizzard are too busy getting the startcraft 2 beta ready.. or atleast they better be ... /shakes fist

Originally posted by Zeblade

lmao what a lame thread. OP did you read what you said? yeah like Blizzard with 11MILLION players is really worried about a NEW.. sorry OLD graphics engine game. lol this was really funny

Well obviously you cannot comprehend the post. I will try and simplify it for you, ok?

lets say WoW has 10 million subs and they make 500 million profit per year from these 10 million subscriptions.

Now lets say AION takes a very modest 1 million subscriptions from WoW upon release, that is 10%

10% of 500 million dollars is 50 million dollars. You call that funny? I bet you dont work in accounting.

you shouldn't bring up the graphics engine, cryengine is one of the best in the business. Why reinvent the wheel? The fact they modified the engine for this game is bonus. The WoW engine does not even come close even with all the updates they have done, its remains a cartoon. It started as a lag fest and it remains a lag fest. So i guess this is my time to laugh at you. really funny.

Zeblade is a clasic example of misinformation everyone, i am sure I am not the only one laughing at his "old graphics engine post"

Originally posted by cerebrix

Originally posted by Warpiglet

Lets say you are the head of a massive software company, lets say you have a pretty good corner on the MMO market. Say 10 million subscriptions, you are living the high life in the penthouse. Your company profits a nice tidy 500 million a year. But wait, there is a new MMO coming out, direct competition and its serious.....

You enter the war room, marketing is there, customer service, managment from all departments. You go over the numbers, 10% hit, omg 50 million gone.... 20% hit 100 million gone.... its decided, time for the TROLLS.

They crawl out from under the bridge and decend with unforgiving fury upon the potential competition...

If you don't think this is the way business works, you are in the dark. Business is total cut throat. !0% hit is serious business. 20, 30 and 40% is devastating.

 

 

if you really believe thats how blizzard does business you need medication and hospitalization.  not to mention a solid tin hat, since tin foil wont keep the cia from reading your brainwaves and transmitting them to blizzard since its all a big friggin conspiracy.

 

have you been under a rock for the last 15 years?  you make it sound like blizzard just slapped some game together and "conned" 12 million people into playing it.  lemme guess.  they had the help of the world government illuminati spies to hold parents at gunpoint, threaten terrorist and bio weapon attacks in order to force all those poor innocent helpless people to play such a horrible game and profess passionately that they in fact, love it.

seriously, are you doing drugs right now?  which ones did you take?  show me where the bad man touched you!  call poison control now because although it may not seem like it, i think theres a possibility that you overdosed on a controlled substance.

 

if Michael Morhaime has shown the industry anything in the last 15 years, hes shown his tenacity.  Mind you, im not in love with the dude either.  Hell, you could call me disgruntled.  But that said, if hes shown anything, hes shown he runs a company that pays attention to its customers.  He's shown his company has listened carefully to the marketplace and whipped his development teams into making the right product and releasing it at the right time.  most importantly, hes shown no matter how much success blizzard gets, its never enough for mike.  that mans insatiable.  

warcraft, warcraft 2, starcraft, starcraft II, diablo, diablo 2, and finally *gasp* world of warcraft.

 

look at that list.  did ANY of those games just flat out suck so bad that nobody bought them?  Blizzard has earned every penny theyve made thus far and GG for them on that.

Listen, im glad you found a game you like.  You should focus on that an getting your friends to play it with you.  

If you think you have to tear another game down to convince your friends to play it with you, then the game you like sucks in the first place and more imporatntly, you know it.

 

for the record, i dont play wow, and im not going to play aion.  it just pisses me off when i log onto this site sometimes to see the absolutley insane rantings of someone who should be heavilly medicated.

nobody is "sending trolls" onto any forums by another company to tear them down.  thats the most absolutely insane bs ive ever read on an mmo site in the 12 or so years ive been playing these games.

 

you need help

 

WoW, a total wall of nothing. Have you been drinking?

Originally posted by dstar.

Don't even feed this guy.  He's in his own little world.

Hi dstar, back for more? Here to discuss AION or something else?

 denial is the first sign of substance addiction

Originally posted by Warpiglet

Originally posted by dstar.

Don't even feed this guy.  He's in his own little world.

 

Hi dstar, back for more? Here to discuss AION or something else?

Carry on trolling.  A whole sleu of people from various areas not involved with this site have already had a riot laughing at your posts in a previous thread that was linked around. So do your thing.

Originally posted by dstar.

Originally posted by Warpiglet

Originally posted by dstar.

Don't even feed this guy.  He's in his own little world.

 

Hi dstar, back for more? Here to discuss AION or something else?

 

Carry on trolling.  A whole sleu of people from various areas not involved with this site have already had a riot laughing at your posts in a previous thread that was linked around. So do your thing.

Omg you are hurting my feelings, such anger and hatred. you would make a fine sith lord in SW:TOR

I sense much fear in this one.... he will not be trained.

But lets try and stay on topic here.  Interesting poll results so far don't you think?

Haha whatever makes you feel better man.