Originally posted by SaintViktor

No the saddest thing is GW letting Mythic make the game.

I have to second this one. Mythic does not have the vision to make great MMORPGs, but they rather make things small and casual. I even heard that they once said: We are not creating a world, we are creating a game.

With that kind of attitute it is no wonder WAR has turned into such an extreme themepark MMORPG. They dont even want to create the feeling of a Warhammer world.

Not to mention balancing. Game been out for what, 9 months? And patch 1.3 has fundamentally changed how combat damage works and put everything on its head which will lead to months of balancing to sort out. And all that just because some AoE was OP?

No, Mythic are not nearly competent enough to be compared to companies like Blizzard.

Originally posted by Yamota

 

No, Mythic are not nearly competent enough to be compared to companies like Blizzard.

And this is the core problem of all those so called mmorpg makers.

We will see what Bioware brings, but unless you are after a typical personal interest Lore (like Star Trek for me) and just know you'll have a limited quality game, .... just stop buying those duds...

Hyping and buying underdevelopped crap is not helping anything.... or we will get  a LOT more War's, AoC and DF's....

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Originally posted by redhands123

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Originally posted by Devour

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Originally posted by redhands123

damn man, they were gonna have skaven in that one too. UGGGH!

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What's wrong with skaven? They're some of the best villains in the P&P!
Also, to the other guy, the point is that it would've been a FAIRLY high quality sandbox, instead of the crap we're getting nowadays.

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No, no, no, you misunderstood. I was saying they were gonna have skaven as a playable race AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE COOLEST SHIT EVER!

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Skaven were never a CHaracter Race Choice in the CLimax Warhammer Online
Neither were Greenskins or Dark Elves

They hinted Chaos toons would be something you could work towards..

Player Races
Ogre (male Only)
Elf
Dwarf
Hobbit
Human

Game basically used the Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing rules

The game had a lot of people following it .... Climax needed a ton more money to finish it and Games Workshop just couldn't afford it...so it folded...

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by redhands123

damn man, they were gonna have skaven in that one too. UGGGH!

 

What's wrong with skaven? They're some of the best villains in the P&P!

Also, to the other guy, the point is that it would've been a FAIRLY high quality sandbox, instead of the crap we're getting nowadays.

Like as a themepark it's a high quality MMO?

There hasn't been a first rate sandbox game on the market for players to really try... or at least, a sandbox offering from a top tier company.  The first 2 generations of MMO players have more or less been handheld to the point of losing any reason to use their imaginations or innovative sides. 

I realize that there were a few games early on that were more thinker-friendly, but as companies chased high-customer counts they went further and further away from 'open' and the reigns were taken out of the players/customers hands in their gaming world.  We pay monthly fee's to ride on rails.

thats what u get for hiring bunch of new guys to program  mmo, nothing good will come out of it. 

Originally posted by JGMIII

I don't know.

Do you really have any idea how small the group of players are that would rather a open ended sandbox game?

The sandboxy type mmos are coming out now and imo its not really a good thing we have a small community and to streach us across too many games is bad imo.

UO is still going, Eve, Ryzom, Wurm, DF and now with games like MO, ER and FE how many more could we really ask for.

These open endged games are awesome to us but we are a very small minority, to blame investors and devs houses because they actually want to make money instead of catering to a extremely small niche isn't fair imo.

MMOs are a business and our tiny playerbase in the next year or so will have more then enough games to mess with we don;t need WAR to be a sandbox.

 

 

You bring up a nice list of sandbox games.  Funny, if they are so great, why doesn't the OP support it rather than waste his time and money on WAR?

War went from hero to zero for me as well.

Originally posted by Devour

You know what the saddest thing about Warhammer Online is?

The original game that got shut down because Games Workshop thought it wasn't "economically viable" was going to be akin to a sandbox game, as it was based off the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying game. Thing SWGs system in a fantasy setting and you're pretty damn close.

So, yeah...

It's pretty much GW's fault that we don't have a very nice sandbox game sitting on the market right now.

( Well, other than Wish, which also got shut down due to the fact it cost too much. I'm seeing a pattern, here. )

Video of original Warhammer Online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQvPQJ1_Dk

What a bunch of lies you got there, the original Warhammer Online was a PVE only game where you could play Empire only!!!

So please don't make up stuff.