Simply put, if TOR = death blow to SWG how about TCG?

Or are TCG and the station pass the reasons that'll oblige SOE to keep SWG running even if it has quite none players left?

Originally posted by Deewe

Simply put, if TOR = death blow to SWG how about TCG?

 

Or are TCG and the station pass the reasons that'll oblige SOE to keep SWG running even if it has quite none players left?

If they shut down NGE they could leave the TCG in place but who would purchase the cards given the loot is no longer viable?

Realistically both would go...besides players do not own the TCG virtual cards they purchase at lteast from a EULA standpoint not that they mean much.

Originally posted by Deewe

Simply put, if TOR = death blow to SWG how about TCG?

 

Or are TCG and the station pass the reasons that'll oblige SOE to keep SWG running even if it has quite none players left?

It wouldn't surprise me if SOE is turning a decent profit with the sub/tcg if they literally take all of the sw references out of the game but truth be told they may as well keep it running as long as it is viable I don't like seeing anyone lose they're game if it is avoidable.

Im sure they got fine print that says no.   Besides you really dont have to worry about that for more than a year.    I dont think LA wants to release another bugged out game that will bomb because of it.    Beta testing wont start until next year if they finish up production and testing,  you might see a release by Christmas 2010 or early 2011.  

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Im sure they got fine print that says no.   Besides you really dont have to worry about that for more than a year.    I dont think LA wants to release another bugged out game that will bomb because of it.    Beta testing wont start until next year if they finish up production and testing,  you might see a release by Christmas 2010 or early 2011.  

Lets hope they learn that lesson but alot of the people working on TOR are from SWG.

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Deewe

Simply put, if TOR = death blow to SWG how about TCG?

 

Or are TCG and the station pass the reasons that'll oblige SOE to keep SWG running even if it has quite none players left?

 

If they shut down NGE they could leave the TCG in place but who would purchase the cards given the loot is no longer viable?

Realistically both would go...besides players do not own the TCG virtual cards they purchase at lteast from a EULA standpoint not that they mean much.

Yeppers. It is SWG TCG in-game loot  and the money it rakes in that floats the TCG and SWG. TOR will devastate SWG's playerbase (what little there is left). No players...no viable TCG. Knowing $OE, no refunds either.

Getting a refund from SOE is not going to happen.  What I think they will do is leave TCG up, so that technically you still "have" your cards but the MMO will be gone.

This is going to be something that will have to be defined and hashed out in the courts as RMT becomes more and more common, especially given that MMO failure and closure is becoming a lot more common.  I don't think you can sell someone something, hide behind a EULA, close it down, take the specific things bought away, and still keep the money.

If that's legal, then Bernie Madoff should have invested in a RMT MMO with a TCG lottery.

The main difference is that when a subscription MMO is shut down, all you do is stop charging people for more subscription time and/or refund people for the prepaid time that is unused.  The terms are clear:  You are paying every month for subscription time, not stuff.  But RMT throws a wrench in that, you are paying for things, not time.  And, in my opinion, a publisher can't just yank that without a refund.

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

8-|

Smed seems to think the its possible...but then again he is a known liar.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

We're?  Do you work for SOE? 

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

rather poorly?

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

 

We're?  Do you work for SOE? 

No but he likes to think he does.

Actually, this thread does raise an interesting question, aside from the lolworthy idea of SOE giving anyone a refund for the TCG.

After SWG closes down (I bet it'll be maximum 2 years after TOR's release) does SOE have the license to continue releasing new packs for the TCG, or will they have to stop? Will the TCG have to shut down completely? My guess would be no, there is a seperate license agreement for the TCG, but I could easily be wrong.

Also, can you actually battle other players ala Magic: the Gathering, or is it just a collector type game?

Originally posted by Deewe

Simply put, if TOR = death blow to SWG how about TCG?

Or are TCG and the station pass the reasons that'll oblige SOE to keep SWG running even if it has quite none players left?

Well, SOE don't mind keeping smaller games running, in this case it is Lucas art that might close it down, and it that case it it the license going.

I could imagine that you might be able make some kind of transfer to legends of Norrath but there is a cold day in heck before SOE pays back any money.

I don't see the F2P games that dies paying back people either, you just have to enjoy the games while they last.

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Im sure they got fine print that says no.   Besides you really dont have to worry about that for more than a year.    I dont think LA wants to release another bugged out game that will bomb because of it.    Beta testing wont start until next year if they finish up production and testing,  you might see a release by Christmas 2010 or early 2011.  

You're talking about LucasArts now.

Not a reputably good company anymore, not since 1999.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

BTW, Vet trials are happening again. People can see you're wrong for themselves.

I logged in and only one server had any semblence of a population (and even then it was a lag bomb).

Sorry Badger, but during Vet trial times you simply cannot get away with claiming the game is healthy.

Originally posted by abbaba

Actually, this thread does raise an interesting question, aside from the lolworthy idea of SOE giving anyone a refund for the TCG.

After SWG closes down (I bet it'll be maximum 2 years after TOR's release) does SOE have the license to continue releasing new packs for the TCG, or will they have to stop? Will the TCG have to shut down completely? My guess would be no, there is a seperate license agreement for the TCG, but I could easily be wrong.

Also, can you actually battle other players ala Magic: the Gathering, or is it just a collector type game?

wont matter...if SWG is gone loot cards become worthless...no SWG...no loot cards...no TCG.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

I bet the players in Matrix Online were coming to the same conclusion as well until they got the axe..

Originally posted by firefly2003

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

 

I bet the players in Matrix Online were coming to the same conclusion as well until they got the axe..

No, where SWG actually has some subs MxO has been dead for a while, also they didnt update the game at all. if SWG is doing so bad then it shouldnt be updated any longer

Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

 

I bet the players in Matrix Online were coming to the same conclusion as well until they got the axe..

that was funny. i had no idea they were giving u loot for paying to play the tcg its a shame!

Originally posted by falc0n

Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

 

I bet the players in Matrix Online were coming to the same conclusion as well until they got the axe..

that was funny. i had no idea they were giving u loot for paying to play the tcg its a shame!

The real funny part is the states that do not allow Sony to have the TCG available to players in those states ( there's a list in the TCG fineprint ), since the TCG is basically gambling since you have a chance to get loot but re not guaranteed to get it regardless of how many packs you buy.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

Link please.

Originally posted by SkeeSkee

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

 

Link please.

Don't hold your breath waiting.

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

SWG wont be shutting down, we're doing rather actually.

Rather actually what?