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General Discussion  » Can Ncsoft Handle Success?

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  Colonial

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6/02/09 2:14:32 PM#1

A very senior friend of mine in the gaming industry had his doubts which made me doubt and my question is. Can Ncsoft as a company handle a success the size of WoW?

Ofc partial profit has to go towards the Garriott pay out but that aside :P

  Kainis

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6/02/09 2:18:26 PM#2

in a word- Yes. The money it would take to handle the Garriott affair has already been budgeted and set aside, and it isn't even a noticable dent in their earnings. Combine that with the same kind of management expertise as Blizzard had when WoW became the gorilla it is now, and the rest is details.

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  Locklain

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6/02/09 2:21:00 PM#3

People seem to forget, Blizzard was not always some monster company before WoW.  They were just your ordinary video game developer that had a good following for their games.  If it is any indication NCSoft has handled both Korean release and Chinese release without a hitch and I am pretty sure that US and EU are going to have far fewer applicants.

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6/02/09 2:29:05 PM#4
Originally posted by Locklain

People seem to forget, Blizzard was not always some monster company before WoW.  They were just your ordinary video game developer that had a good following for their games.  If it is any indication NCSoft has handled both Korean release and Chinese release without a hitch and I am pretty sure that US and EU are going to have far fewer applicants.

 

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  Colonial

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6/02/09 3:07:41 PM#5

Btw I am looking forward to aion Im not trying to be negative but the management was/is a concern.  Especially after Tabula Rasa got shut down.

  Locklain

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6/02/09 3:10:56 PM#6
Originally posted by Colonial

Btw I am looking forward to aion Im not trying to be negative but the management was/is a concern.  Especially after Tabula Rasa got shut down.

Tabula Rasa was hemorrhaging money like a fat man in a donut shop.  It needed to be shut down for the better of the company.

 

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  Loke666

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6/02/09 3:17:58 PM#7

Well, Guildwars is the second best selling western MMO even if NC just are the publisher.

And Blizzard mades it's misstakes too, they remade Diablo 2 from start 4 times and pulled the plug on Starcraft: Ghost just before release.

The only difference is that Blizz have the money to pull the plug on a game that they don't think will sell enough and hurt their reputation. If Aion continue to grow than Nc soft might get in the same situation soon.

But I am not 100% sure that NC soft actually can make a great game, best one I played was Linegae that was rather fun 8 years ago or so. But we will see, maybe Aion really is great.

  stayontarget

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6/02/09 3:35:52 PM#8

I think it's a mute point because all though Aion is a very fun game to play I don't feel it will get huge numbers in NA/EU because a lot of people don't care for pvp.

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  Electriceye

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6/02/09 3:39:00 PM#9
Originally posted by Loke666

Well, Guildwars is the second best selling western MMO even if NC just are the publisher.

 

Actually, GW was developed by ArenaNet, which is a part of NCsoft.

  Antarious

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6/02/09 3:40:27 PM#10
Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
Originally posted by Locklain

People seem to forget, Blizzard was not always some monster company before WoW.  They were just your ordinary video game developer that had a good following for their games.  If it is any indication NCSoft has handled both Korean release and Chinese release without a hitch and I am pretty sure that US and EU are going to have far fewer applicants.

 

You beat me to it.


 

 

Well I'd add tho it mostly ignores a western audience...  Asking if NCSoft can handle numbers like WoW had...

 

L1/L2 both peaked at more than double the numbers EQ1 had (previous to World of Warcraft EQ1 still held the peak for a western MMO).  Now obviously L1/L2 were mostly successful in the asian market... but since they were run by NCSoft they had at least some relevant experience with a semi large player base.

 

What Locklain says is why I gave Blizzard a break when I played WoW (at release).  They had never run an MMO before... and they had estimates at how well they thought the game would do (far as I remember all under the million subscriber number).  Mostly based on how the MMO market seemed to be size wise... can you imagine the nightmare it must have been trying to ramp up your services to deal with those numbers....  and have had no expectations that you were going to see numbers like they did.

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  Drago

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6/02/09 3:43:14 PM#11
Originally posted by Colonial

A very senior friend of mine in the gaming industry had his doubts which made me doubt and my question is. Can Ncsoft as a company handle a success the size of WoW?

Ofc partial profit has to go towards the Garriott pay out but that aside :P

 

If what u said is true then your a liar and u wound't even have to ask this question cause lineage 2 has sold millions upon millions of copies and ncsoft has handle it fine and city of heroes was huge success aswell. Your so called friend in the business would know this and woudn't have this doubt. You  are a liar and troll plz move on this guy is an idiot.

  Neyon

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6/02/09 3:49:16 PM#12
Originally posted by Electriceye
Originally posted by Loke666

Well, Guildwars is the second best selling western MMO even if NC just are the publisher.

 

Actually, GW was developed by ArenaNet, which is a part of NCsoft.

 

It annoys me so much how so many people don't know this, and then try to argue that they are completely seperate.

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  Longsnout

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6/02/09 3:53:42 PM#13

 The title of this thread is really misleading. 

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  Colonial

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6/02/09 4:31:11 PM#14
Originally posted by Drago
Originally posted by Colonial

A very senior friend of mine in the gaming industry had his doubts which made me doubt and my question is. Can Ncsoft as a company handle a success the size of WoW?

Ofc partial profit has to go towards the Garriott pay out but that aside :P

 

If what u said is true then your a liar and u wound't even have to ask this question cause lineage 2 has sold millions upon millions of copies and ncsoft has handle it fine and city of heroes was huge success aswell. Your so called friend in the business would know this and woudn't have this doubt. You  are a liar and troll plz move on this guy is an idiot.

 

No sir you are the troll, Lineage 1/2 was very popular in Asia if you have a grain of salt of worth and knowledge you will know that the West is a different beast when it comes to managing a game.

I also contest that City of Heroes was a huge success, it never reached a substantial number of subscribers and the devs just started handing out bans for people using their own systems that they cocked up on launching.

This is a forum, I have a valid question, if you don't like it don't read and move along.

This thread is about Aion.

  Colonial

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6/02/09 4:32:48 PM#15
Originally posted by Longsnout

 The title of this thread is really misleading. 

 

I apologise to you for that I had no intention for it to be so, It has been edited.

  stayontarget

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6/02/09 4:40:18 PM#16

As far as handling server population I think they can. They did a very good job of it in Korea and China but the numbers will be far less here in NA/EU.

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  Longsnout

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6/02/09 4:55:42 PM#17
Originally posted by Colonial
Originally posted by Longsnout

 The title of this thread is really misleading. 

 

I apologise to you for that I had no intention for it to be so, It has been edited.

Thank you, good Sir. 

And to answer the question. Yes they can. At the very least they would grow with the success. But please do not underestimate the size and capacity of NCsoft. They have around 2400 employees (worldwide) at the moment.

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  Electriceye

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6/02/09 4:56:07 PM#18

L1 peaked at around 3.5million, L2 at 2.1million subs, and Aion has probably more than 2million active subs.

Considering no other company (bar Blizzard) has had more subs to manage, I'd say it has the best chance out of all the current developers (bar Blizzard) to be able to handle success at a phenomenal scale (WoW numbers).

However I don't think it will ever have WoW sub numbers in the West, not even close, so all I've said is irrelevant!

 

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6/02/09 5:00:50 PM#19

NcSoft has quite a few ,L1,L2,GW,COH  not as big as WoW but close

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  denshing

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6/02/09 9:04:49 PM#20
Originally posted by Loke666

Well, Guildwars is the second best selling western MMO even if NC just are the publisher.

And Blizzard mades it's misstakes too, they remade Diablo 2 from start 4 times and pulled the plug on Starcraft: Ghost just before release.

The only difference is that Blizz have the money to pull the plug on a game that they don't think will sell enough and hurt their reputation. If Aion continue to grow than Nc soft might get in the same situation soon.

But I am not 100% sure that NC soft actually can make a great game, best one I played was Linegae that was rather fun 8 years ago or so. But we will see, maybe Aion really is great.


 

I don't think that those would count as mistakes on blizzards part. The mistake would have been releasing the titles in the first place, and they where smart enough to realise that and pull out, unlike so many other developers who would just throw it out there to make some quick cash, "Which they could of", they cancled so they could keep their record straight when it comes to having great games.