jusr after exile got a new city the server crash, Tasos play in SOT guild ??

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Originally posted by Roin

That thread got locked.

Well surprise, suprise there.........

Who could've possibly known that they would?

EDIT: HERE"S THE SUMMARY OF THE THREAD

OP:Originally Posted by Donald Duck
Take city, server goes down 15seconds later.
 

DFMOD:Originally Posted by Brother Justin

No.

Stop making lame threads.

AND HERE"S SOMETHING I PICKED AS A HIGHLIGHT FROM IT AN OLD NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT

There have been several bogus corruption accusations against the Darkfall GMs on these forums ranging from them causing clients to crash, causing server crashes while taking sides during sieges, to refunding items and money.

First of all GMs cannot crash the server, or cause a client to crash. They cannot create items or money. All their actions and communications are monitored and logged. We re-checked all chat logs and GM activity for every report mentioned in the forums or reported to us at the help desk, over the time periods that the questionable conduct was supposed to have taken place and found absolutely nothing. Because of this, any public accusations on the forums accusing GMs or the company of any such activities will be removed, and everyone contributing in the thread will be banned from the forums.

GM activity is always monitored by us. If you would like to report GM conduct, then you should use support.darkfallonline.com to do so if you have proof of misconduct.

You know I have been a long time fan of this game. I have defended this game time and time again.

I will be cancelling my account tommorow, if nothing is done about this.

I love the game. but I am unwilling to pay and to continue to play this game if this is goign to happen.

cactus(SOT) start a siege against exile and they lose the siege after exile got the city server crashed and SOT got the city back and ofc forumfall mods instant lock all threads

estimate numbers of players 150 and that make the crash weird, maybe the clan stone is bugged ? some one used a bug that crash the server ? who knows ...  

on the sinister map

SOT city is number 477

Exile city is number  609

Originally posted by jonyak

You know I have been a long time fan of this game. I have defended this game time and time again.

I will be cancelling my account tommorow, if nothing is done about this.

I love the game. but I am unwilling to pay and to continue to play this game if this is goign to happen.

OK as I have had words with Jon in the past and maybe some were nasty I have to think there is some credence to this if he agrees and threatens to cancel. The sad  part is that at one time I really wanted this game to break through so that there would be a broader future for games in this genre. Sadly it is AV who may be killing its own game more than the game if that makes any sense. SOrry to hear the screwing continues.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by jonyak

You know I have been a long time fan of this game. I have defended this game time and time again.

I will be cancelling my account tommorow, if nothing is done about this.

I love the game. but I am unwilling to pay and to continue to play this game if this is goign to happen.

 

OK as I have had words with Jon in the past and maybe some were nasty I have to think there is some credence to this if he agrees and threatens to cancel. The sad  part is that at one time I really wanted this game to break through so that there would be a broader future for games in this genre. Sadly it is AV who may be killing its own game more than the game if that makes any sense. SOrry to hear the screwing continues.

I was directly involved in this siege.

I was in a group of people who ran for an HOUR accross the world to participate. I spent totaly of about 3 hours on this siege, not to even mention the hours spent harvesting mats for the cannons, horses, gear that was used.

we won the siege and second later the game did not crash, it was purposefully taken down, because there was a message saying the server was being shutdown.

the game was rolled back about a minute and the city was lost.

once again... I love this game, but this is unacceptable.

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by jonyak

You know I have been a long time fan of this game. I have defended this game time and time again.

I will be cancelling my account tommorow, if nothing is done about this.

I love the game. but I am unwilling to pay and to continue to play this game if this is goign to happen.

 

OK as I have had words with Jon in the past and maybe some were nasty I have to think there is some credence to this if he agrees and threatens to cancel. The sad  part is that at one time I really wanted this game to break through so that there would be a broader future for games in this genre. Sadly it is AV who may be killing its own game more than the game if that makes any sense. SOrry to hear the screwing continues.

 

I was directly involved in this siege.

I was in a group of people who ran for an HOUR accross the world to participate. I spent totaly of about 3 hours on this siege, not to even mention the hours spent harvesting mats for the cannons, horses, gear that was used.

we won the siege and second later the game did not crash, it was purposefully taken down, because there was a message saying the server was being shutdown.

the game was rolled back about a minute and the city was lost.

once again... I love this game, but this is unacceptable.

Hehe. Sorry to hear about this, guys. "Trolls", let's go easy on 'em. Don't say "We tried to warn you", etc., etc. It's never good when a person loves a game but is forced to quit because of issues like this. It's all about individual tolerance level, and despite this debacle, I'm sure most of the DF subs will remain tomorrow.

So let me get this straight..

Exile took SoTs city? The server crashes... Comes back up and SoT still has the city? Seems convenient.

Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by jonyak

You know I have been a long time fan of this game. I have defended this game time and time again.

I will be cancelling my account tommorow, if nothing is done about this.

I love the game. but I am unwilling to pay and to continue to play this game if this is goign to happen.

 

OK as I have had words with Jon in the past and maybe some were nasty I have to think there is some credence to this if he agrees and threatens to cancel. The sad  part is that at one time I really wanted this game to break through so that there would be a broader future for games in this genre. Sadly it is AV who may be killing its own game more than the game if that makes any sense. SOrry to hear the screwing continues.

 

I was directly involved in this siege.

I was in a group of people who ran for an HOUR accross the world to participate. I spent totaly of about 3 hours on this siege, not to even mention the hours spent harvesting mats for the cannons, horses, gear that was used.

we won the siege and second later the game did not crash, it was purposefully taken down, because there was a message saying the server was being shutdown.

the game was rolled back about a minute and the city was lost.

once again... I love this game, but this is unacceptable.

Hehe. Sorry to hear about this, guys. "Trolls", let's go easy on 'em. Don't say "We tried to warn you", etc., etc. It's never good when a person loves a game but is forced to quit because of issues like this. It's all about individual tolerance level, and despite this debacle, I'm sure most of the DF subs will remain tomorrow.

Have to agree. Never proper to kick those who are down.,

Originally posted by SlyLoK

So let me get this straight..

Exile took SoTs city? The server crashes... Comes back up and SoT still has the city? Seems convenient.

If your are in sot yes and if anyone like that should think better and be on exile place for a moment

Got to love the moderator who cloed the threadtho, his reply really shows the current state of the game.

DFO does have a good potential, but it will fail if AV don't thate things like this serious.

Darkfall sounds more and more like Death server from Shadowbane. Theres no reason for any type of rollback in a persistant online game unless it involves an extremely nasty exploit. So, as long as eXile wasn't cheating, than I'd have second guess AV's intentions in the game. However, considering hacks and cheats have existed in the game before, that could be another reason for the rollback. Thats the problem with games like Eve Online and Darkfall. Both sides are capable of being cheaters and hacks and those types rarely ever admit to it.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Darkfall sounds more and more like Death server from Shadowbane. Theres no reason for any type of rollback in a persistant online game unless it involves an extremely nasty exploit. So, as long as eXile wasn't cheating, than I'd have second guess AV's intentions in the game. However, considering hacks and cheats have existed in the game before, that could be another reason for the rollback. Thats the problem with games like Eve Online and Darkfall. Both sides are capable of being cheaters and hacks and those types rarely ever admit to it.

I suspect the need for rollbacks is because of how much information is processed on the client. There will be periods when information is not sent, and if a crash occurs inbetween those times, a rollback will occur.

Lol, server shut down hacks are to hardcore for you.

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Darkfall sounds more and more like Death server from Shadowbane. Theres no reason for any type of rollback in a persistant online game unless it involves an extremely nasty exploit. So, as long as eXile wasn't cheating, than I'd have second guess AV's intentions in the game. However, considering hacks and cheats have existed in the game before, that could be another reason for the rollback. Thats the problem with games like Eve Online and Darkfall. Both sides are capable of being cheaters and hacks and those types rarely ever admit to it.

 

I suspect the need for rollbacks is because of how much information is processed on the client. There will be periods when information is not sent, and if a crash occurs inbetween those times, a rollback will occur.

From the sounds of it... it wasn't a crash.

The server was taken down on purpose, for whatever reason.

When it came back up, it had been rolled back. 

There is alot of cheating in DF  but they took the server down and then rolled it back. now if they did this because of cheating they would let all know it, not leave people second guessing . This is another reason DF is a crap company. these people won give them the city back.

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Darkfall sounds more and more like Death server from Shadowbane. Theres no reason for any type of rollback in a persistant online game unless it involves an extremely nasty exploit. So, as long as eXile wasn't cheating, than I'd have second guess AV's intentions in the game. However, considering hacks and cheats have existed in the game before, that could be another reason for the rollback. Thats the problem with games like Eve Online and Darkfall. Both sides are capable of being cheaters and hacks and those types rarely ever admit to it.

 

I suspect the need for rollbacks is because of how much information is processed on the client. There will be periods when information is not sent, and if a crash occurs inbetween those times, a rollback will occur.

While I agree information is lost after a server seizes up, but how long after the city was taken did the server stay up before it went down. Also, people are saying a message was broadcast that the server was coming down, so apparently it didn't crash. Theres still the question of cheating, but since AV has one of the worst track records for explaining their actions to the public, aka updates on the forums, than one can only wonder.

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Darkfall sounds more and more like Death server from Shadowbane. Theres no reason for any type of rollback in a persistant online game unless it involves an extremely nasty exploit. So, as long as eXile wasn't cheating, than I'd have second guess AV's intentions in the game. However, considering hacks and cheats have existed in the game before, that could be another reason for the rollback. Thats the problem with games like Eve Online and Darkfall. Both sides are capable of being cheaters and hacks and those types rarely ever admit to it.

 

I suspect the need for rollbacks is because of how much information is processed on the client. There will be periods when information is not sent, and if a crash occurs inbetween those times, a rollback will occur.

 

From the sounds of it... it wasn't a crash.

The server was taken down on purpose, for whatever reason.

When it came back up, it had been rolled back. 

Maybe the server was on verge of crashing, and they forced a shutdown to prevent a greater loss of data? As dishonest as I think the entire AV camp is. I would like to believe, that the shutdown was for a good purpose.  Not for some corruption or developers playing favorites again.

The situation is pretty bad, no matter how you look at it.  Was the server taken down maliciously?  Who knows?  Was it taken down abrubtly for a legitimate reason that happened to cause a rollback?  Who knows? Why was there a rollback at all? In a MMO, especially one with big time sinks, rollbacks are one of the worst things that can happen from a player perspectve.  How do sieges work in Darkfall?  One clan challenges another, which creates a 4-hour window (I believe) for preparation, after which the actual siege takes place.  So, rolling back the last few minutes of a siege (the minutes in which victory is decided) effectively  wastes several hours of player time.  That's inexcusable.

Aventurine's handling of the situation is terrible.  The boards are on fire, but there's no official word.  Players were informed (in game) that the server was being shut down, but weren't really given much time.  In other games, I'll see messages every minute for up to 30 minutes.  That's not the case in Darkfall.  At most, I've seen 5 minutes.  It would really behoove Aventurine to comment on the situation, because their silence simply alienates more customers.

~Ripper

This sounds like the kind of crap that always "mysteriously" happens on UO player servers, lol.

Damn ....... this again?  It certainly isn't the first time something like this has happened.  I just can't believe that Aventurine would intentionally crash their server to accomodate a clan and their city.  I would believe that player would, if given the opportunity.  I'm no programmer, but, is that a possibility?

With the heavy client side game could a player in the know crash the server when he saw fit?

~Hairysun~

Originally posted by Hairysun

Damn ....... this again?  It certainly isn't the first time something like this has happened.  I just can't believe that Aventurine would intentionally crash their server to accomodate a clan and their city.  I would believe that player would, if given the opportunity.  I'm no programmer, but, is that a possibility?

 

With the heavy client side game could a player in the know crash the server when he saw fit?

 

~Hairysun~

 

After following this game's development since 2001: it would be extremely surprising if Tasos and the game's developers do not play the game themselves as regular characters within the game world.  Darkfail was basically their attempt to build the MMORPG that they had always dreamed of playing.  The original devs were basically a bunch of gamers from the same MMO guild who decided to "live the dream".

thats not just crap

thats a supercrap.