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From my experience with F2P games (Atlantica Online, Perfect World) if you don't plan to spend cash then you better don't start playing it. The thing that Alex described of course sucks. But spending money in F2P game is what they want you there for. They don't care about you going there playing for free and then being all frustrated that you can't have something and market is flooded blah blah. While I was playing Atlantica Online I've probably spent few hundred bucks in that game and I don't really regret. I do hate their gamble system but with all that money spent I was able to get to 98 very easy without any special grind. In Perfect World things are a bit different. Item mall items cost a bit more but it takes a bit longer to level. I bet that RoM is not much different. If you have few hundred bucks to spend in there - you will enjoy it. Don't think that Asian devs are stupid and will release the game without opportunity to make money on those who likes to waste cash in Item Mall. Thats what these games are about. Its just funny how some of you guys 'review' these games like some sort of counterpart to European and US gaming market. They are NOT. They are being released at least 3-4 a year to attract people with cash. Thats what they live of off. Those who come to play for free, they don't care much about you. |
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I just looked through this game features. I am gonna try it I think. Dual Class These features are well wanted in many games that they don't have them. Looks like this time Asian developers did some research on what people want the most in their MMO and created one. Of course its still F2P with Item Mall game. So either prepare to spend cash or be unsatisfied with a "free" play. |
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Originally posted by reanor
Don't forget about the free French maid you get with the house. How many games give you that for free? |
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Only gamers,and gamers that never shut up in chat and trade in games,would take the time to bitch about a free game. Does this gold billfold full of hundred dollar bills make my ass look fat? |
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Yamota
Elite Member
Joined: 10/05/03
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. I know none and therefore, am no beast. |
Any review that fails to mention PvP is not a good review... |
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Yamota
Elite Member
Joined: 10/05/03
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. I know none and therefore, am no beast. |
Originally posted by reanor
Spend "a few houndred bucks" on an MMORPG. Are you insane? At most I will spend 50 bucks bying the game and 15 bucks per month until I get bored. |
What they don't add to this and which is the most important - It will take much longer for you to get all that staff without spending any cash. Thats the biggest reason some people DO PREFER spending cash. Some people just hate grind with their guts. And spending 100$ - 200$ bucks once in a while is not gonna kill anyone who has a normal job. I'd rather spend some money and enjoy the game than spend boring hours to grind that gold and by things from AH. Its easy logic - if you have cash - you can buy. If you don't have cash - you can grind. All the fluff and fancy pancy stuff always was focused on people with cash. Asian F2P games have grind on purpose. They show you how much easier it is to get things with cash, which a lot of people prefer to do and thats how developer makes money to support the game. So all you people who play F2P games for free should log in today and say - Thank You! to those people who spend their hard earned dollars in Item Malls. Instead of complaining and projecting your hatred. People who spend cash on Item Mall allow prices on AH to go down by selling their excesses on the AH and they also indirectly support YOUR play in that particular F2P game. because if they didn't spend that cash there wouldn't be money to support the game and you wouldn't be playing anything. |
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You spent 65 bucks that way. For 65 bucks you can get enough stuff to have fun for 1-2 months in F2P games. And as I said if you don't want to spend cash and are against the Item Malls - you shouldn't be playing F2P games. |
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The review fails to mention that you cannot pvp in this game unless you spend goodly sums in the cash shop. That is a huge ommission to my point of view. And I am not talking spending subscription amounts monthly, you have to fork out a lot more than that to be competitive. Yes the game is fun to play, long as you don't intend to pvp. Pvp on the other hand is heavily dependent on how good your equipment is and yes the classes are not balanced very well in a pvp environment. So pretty unfinished review to my way of thinking when you omit such a major flaw such as this. |
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Most of the "registered" accounts are people having multiple accounts...I had 6 when I was playing. |
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I've been playing Runes of Magic for a while. Got me some diamonds. So far I like the game. I am not a big fan of PvP in 1v1 mode, I like PvP more like in Atlantica Online, but I play on PvE server. So far its been fun. Even though game almost 100% resembles WoW with graphics, but something keeps me interested and I've been having fun. I think that RoM has encompassed everything fun that other games have. Dual Class, Housing, Furniture has bonuses to training and studying, books that you can study crafting and adventuring skills from while being AFK or sleeping, harvesting in EQ2 style, both skill and level based game mechanics, Very well balanced Item Mall (no gambling like in Atlantica and very good prices if you know what you're doing) and so on. You don't really need anything much from Item Mall until the later levels. Yes XP potions and TP potions help to level up a bit. But quests yield pretty good amount of XP and if you can pace the potions when to use them in between of other activities (leveling harvesting, crafting) you're fine with just 65 bucks. Same as you'd spend for a regular game copy and 1 month of playing. I know I'll spend there a little more than 65, but I don't mind because its fun that way. Like Cartman said in "South Park" - "Everything that is fun cost at least 8 bucks", so there you have it. If you don't want to spend money, you can have some fun for free. But I already see that without XP food and TP pots it would take longer to level. There is enough content now to level up fine even after 25. So its my new F2P game now. I am enjoying it. Same I wish to any of you who decides to try. But be ready to spend a little money, then you'll have it all right. |
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I've played RoM since day 1 of open beta, and the game kept going downhill from there even if frogster say they have 1 mil accounts. 50-60% of those I can guarantee you that they are inactive.
Some of the us servers are almost deserted, you can't really buy and trade mods that good. The german servers have the most population but even there, alot of people have started to quit. There are bugs in the game since open beta and they did nothing on it. on PvP servers, players can wear item shop costumes and add stats on them so they can use more then 8 items (you can only seal 8 items that you are sure they are not going to drop on pk). They advertise SvS battles on their features page, and one does not exist. They promised battlegrounds since closed beta in last december, they are not here yet. Anyone that makes a m/p and spends alot of time and/or cash on it can make it way OP...like way way way OP. PvP is not balanced AT ALL, its 90% gear...even if your the lamest noob in the game...spend 500$ to make yourself some godly equips, and you can beat 90% of the population in the server. There are some set pieces where you have to do like 300-500 (~20 mins each if you have a good team) instance runs to complete the set, but your not sure even as that. Crafting is uselles, you don't really get anything that good from it. Im not trying to tell to don;t try the game...go, try it, reach 50/50 and then see if theres anything to do besides farming instances ALL THE TIME. I can keep listing you alot of things that are bad in this game and they were not included in the review. And no im not a troll or some sht..i have a 50/30 scout/rogue on Siochian server, nick: Ping...on forum Dakyr. I was/am in one of the top guilds of my server, almost all of us have more then average equips but theres nothing to do once you get those equips..nothing.
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Maybe its because you missed the "journey" and your whole goal was to get to 50/50 asap and the best gear... Asian games are always like this. They are either for PvP for grinders or PvE for those who buys CS items. There is nothing else to do. I don't know what I'll do when I get to 50/50, I may not even get there, but I am enjoying myself on the way there... Hopefully there will be more of good down the road. And by that time maybe either JGE or BP betas will be out. |
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hi, i've read the review and also seen the video of this game and frankly speaking, it looks really awesome compared to other Free to play games where you wont find stuffs like quest, mounts, etc. and may contain a really wickedly dumb story and a lot of grinding. I am looking forward to play this game but i have a query. i live in india and being a MMO player in india is like living in the seventh layer of hell, as most of the MMO dont work in in india i would like to know weather the game is workable in india and if yes, i would be really glad if someone could supply me the CD of this game because, though my net speed is truly divine, i have a limited download of 1GB per month. So downloading the game for me would just be like subscribing for a more than year
yours gamingly muntazax |
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AmbushMartyr
Advanced Member
Joined: 3/18/07
"Just because you played 5 mins of a MMO doesnt make you a game reviewer." |
I want to throw my 2 runes in on this as well. 1: This is a pretty damn good F2P game, BUT, You better wait till its actually finished, or the devs know what it is they are actually doing! So many changes since CB it scares anyone form plunking down monies to buy anything that can be changed on the drop of a hat! I sorta ridiculed RuneWaker there, but the fact is this is all Frogsters fault! This game had a vision that RuneWaker wanted to see through before opening the "Cash Cow Shop"! Frogster wanted to make the monies as fast as possible by having RuneWaker change the design of the game midstream so that Frogster could score huge monies by destroying the core gameplay that was in CB! Frogster is underhanded, and "allegedly" with a CEO who is known for "bribing" reviewers in the past to sell copies, doesnt surprise me in the least! The GM crew is horrid on the USA side! Actually the whole damn company on the US side is the worst Ive seen in a long time for a F2P!
The game is worth playing for free imo. But only if you didnt get pigeonholed into playing on the US side after spending money on diamonds that cannot be switched to the EU servers! Frogster has a lot of us gamers in their hands basically as a lot fo us have spent tons of money, and then watched how they underhandedly renamed CS items, or descriptions so vague that once you bought em, your stuck with them! To the worst customer service, that do not tolerate even the slightest negativity in the forums or face a 2 month ban! When I say slight negativity, I had been banned there for over 2.5 months cause some of the GM team responsible for naming specific items would NOT rename them after I had told them it was a deceptive! Thats all it took, and I was toast! Didnt matter if I had spent $200 in over the course of 5 months playing! I was gone! It was only then a larger group finally came forward and complained and then, and only then when faced with the threat of lawsuit form hundreds of players, they change them, to be less "ambiguous".
Rumor has it RuneWaker is just itching to get out this hell contract with Frogster USA, as they want to see a more responsible, less corruptive, intelligent, fair, and non-abusive to paying customers!! The US side of Frogster is the worse! They had a chance to partner with a reputable publisher to share the costs to bring this game to NA, but instead got greedy, and used unprofessional, unskilled players from the EU side ( who are currently based in the US) to GM the game, and put one of the best spin doctors in the gaming industry at the helm( CEO ) of a already sinking ship!! The EU side isnt much better, but at least they have a qualified GM team, customer service, and have more sales on CS items than us NA players care to admit!!
Best thing is to stay the hell away from the NA version, and play the EU Global one, till Frogster US dies (which shouldnt be long, unless they change their underhanded tactics), and RuneWaker is more selective about who publishes this game for the NA side next time around!!!
Gamer beware!
sorry for bad grammar, and such, in a hurry so bare with it! |
Originally posted by AmbushMartyr
QFT ! Go Bushy Go ! Stick it to the MAN. |
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AmbushMartyr
Advanced Member
Joined: 3/18/07
"Just because you played 5 mins of a MMO doesnt make you a game reviewer." |
Originally posted by alextodo
:P Hey Spoons! You up this early? Come on man, I made a new toon in Aion and enjoying the crap out of it! Lets go play!! lol! crap, forgot... my new toon is named "Kaiju" Im a ass-asin! Fun stuff! PM me, Im heading in game now!!!
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
"In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin |
Originally posted by reanor This. I've playing for a few months now, and I've got a 37/36 Rogue Priest and 26/25 Knight/Warrior. I've been enjoying the journey. Perhaps like people say, once I get to 50 there won't be anything to do, but there sure is alot to do on the way. Some folks say you need to spend godly sums to pvp. Maybe so, Pureevil on our server spent 4K on his gear. Yet the player who kills the most is named Drayden, a level 39 Mage Priest who routinely kills 20-30 players a session. He's not wearing godly gear, nor does he always win, yet manages to pvp quite a bit. Maybe level 50 pvp is a giant gear contest, but there's a heck of lot of pvp to be had long before then.
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Cult member since May 2007 Regarding EVE: "To be honest, I think God himself created this game." - Shek Regarding new players in EVE: "Think of yourself as a child released into a park full of pedophiles..." - Eleazaros |
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Just weighing in here as the previewer... I have to agree with Sean's rating of "good" though I probably would have been a tad more pessemistic. After some extended play, Rune's of Magic is pretty bland, reaching for Warcraft and more but falling way short in every area I care to think of while attempting to float success on the extras and dual classing. Runes is a decent time waster, but nothing to be taken seriously at this stage and certainly not what I was hoping would come out of closed beta. It's certainly playable for a free to play- even surprising in several ways -but still rough draft quality in a number of areas when placed side by side with a comparably finished project. |
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I think RoM is a pretty good game keeping in mind its 'age' and genre. And i think its doing pretty well, here and there, I see people everywhere, not as many here as there maybe, but while playing on the weekend I see quite a few people running around. Weekdays are a bit quieter. I mean comparing to some other games just release RoM is actually REALLY good.. lol. Also don't compare 5+ year old game with buncha expansion packs and everything released with a game that is a barely few months old. *wink* I like the way RoM is organized. Even though most of the Items on Item Mall are pointless to buy, its still quite well organized game for F2P. Devs did a good job for an F2P game. Housing, double classing, crafting, furniture, crafting facilities for your housing, Elite skills etc. Of course there is grind, which F2P doesn't have it. But its an ok game if you don't start to take it apart under a microscope. *rolleyes* |
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Taking it apart with a microscope... But... But that's our job! ;) And don't take the comment the wrong way... Compared to other free to play MMOs, Runes is heading in the right direction. In terms of implimentation, it doesn't bend players over or overtly rape them like most cash shop games do. We'd still be remiss if we didn't put its flaws under the microscope however. That said, I was comparing it to a pre-expac warcraft... back in the days when soul link was a 30sec buff and death coil didn't horrify :p ...And a free to play vs up front money argument doesn't gain any sympathy here either. These people are playing for money. If they expect that money, they had better push a polished product up front, not yank gamers around on the promise that maybe someday it will fix the rough edges that should have never made it out of beta. Just my POV, not nessisarily those of my sponcer ;) |
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Yeah I know. Its not like I am RoM fanboy. I have my own concerns about the game. Like most of items on Item mall are actually worthless, and really expensive... Take for example Advanced XP Charm. It allows you to store 100K XP and then use it on any character you want. Problem is that it costs 15$ a piece and after level 30 you need more and more of the charms per level up to 20 charms at 45. Since at 45 its 2mil xp to level. It only makes sense actually to buy that charm ONCE, when you're around 20. It will fill up around the time you hit 25-27. So you can use it after that on the secondary profession and save some time. Before 20 its too little exp to fill it up. After 27 it becomes way to expensive to use charms to help leveling. Multiple charms per level, well I'd say you devs can shove that charm you know where. I don't have good opinion about graphics either, it just WAY similar to WoW. I was enjoying it for a while, but now when I see all the flaws and grind quests start to fill up my quest journal, I awant to get back on less and less. I think I am gonna give a try to Aion together with my wife. |
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Originally posted by Kyleran
This is prolly one of the greatest posts I've ever read. The one thing that he forgot to put in here though is that it's FREE to PLAY. if you choose to spend outside cash on it, that's a choice you make......No one is going to make you pull your credit card out and pay for something, you have to make that choice. And the simple fact that you are not paying a monthly may just make that much easier. How many of us that have played WoW or EQ2 or any other MMO in recent years pays there monthly and then on top of that buys gold or platinum online as well. I just started playing this game. It seems pretty good so far. I think it will survive lone enough for SWTOR to come out.......Hopefully. I dont know that I'll put any money into it, but it seems to me when you have a free top download/play game, the company has to make money somehow.
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Ah. but the game is NOT free to play. You cannot PVP in this game without spending far beyond normal subscription rates to outfit your character, despite claims to the contrary above. The deeper you get in this game, the more you get excluded for not spending money on it. If you enjoy that type of playstyle, fine, but most of us do not. |
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Originally posted by Yamota
PVP.....................nuff said. LOL |
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