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Dana

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5/29/09 2:45:39 PM#1

Massive Online Gamer Magazine released their list of the Top 20 Most Influential People in MMOs in 2008. This year, the list was co-authored by MMORPG.com Public Relations Manager Dana Massey.

Massey blogged about his experiences writing the list on our Staff Blog.

The full list is here.

Valeran

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5/29/09 2:51:10 PM#2

Surprising seeing Smed so high on the list.

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Death1942

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5/29/09 5:21:24 PM#3

i think he was no3 last time.

 

Still...most of the people on this list i have never heard of (probly ignorance on my part)

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Ozmodan

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5/29/09 5:50:30 PM#4
Originally posted by Valeran

Surprising seeing Smed so high on the list.


 

Well you can achieve notoriety through negative influences just as well as positive ones....

Valeran

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5/29/09 5:54:04 PM#5
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Valeran

Surprising seeing Smed so high on the list.


 

Well you can achieve notoriety through negative influences just as well as positive ones....

 

ah...the "no such thing as bad press" thing...forgot about that  one...

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Bruticus_XI

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5/29/09 5:59:36 PM#6
Originally posted by Death1942

i think he was no3 last time.

 

Still...most of the people on this list i have never heard of (probly ignorance on my part)

Same here, really. Steefel, Jacobs, Smedley (it's important for someone to show us how not to do things, right?), and a few others are all I can immediately recognize.

Edit: I will now, and always, laugh at Godager. Glad he's on the list.

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5/29/09 7:00:31 PM#7

Poor Brad Mcquaid. Just a distant memory now.

cerebrix

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5/29/09 11:24:58 PM#8

 the fact that godager is still on that list makes me happy.  ao's skill system is still one of the best ever designed.

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John.A.Zoid

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5/30/09 1:17:06 AM#9

Tbh the only one I care about there is Raph Koster. Seeing Smedley on the list proves that the person who wrote this doesn't play mmorpgs.

gamerman98

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5/30/09 10:56:42 AM#10


Originally posted by John.A.Zoid
Tbh the only one I care about there is Raph Koster. Seeing Smedley on the list proves that the person who wrote this doesn't play mmorpgs.


And also the same person that wrote this list must have also known that not many people in the gaming industry even cares about MMOs, hence why smed is so high. oh hes influential alright...he can take awesome movie franchises and ruin their images and legacies for years to come (example: SWG and MXO)

eyeswideopen

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5/30/09 11:03:28 AM#11
Originally posted by cerebrix

 the fact that godager is still on that list makes me happy.  ao's skill system is still one of the best ever designed.


 

Why give that asswipe credit for the ( original ) devs work? The only thing he accomplished was co-founding Funcom. Everything else he touched was shit ( as evidenced by the Shadowlands expansion and Age of Crap ).

Faitu

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5/30/09 3:22:10 PM#12

I don't know many of them either. Just...let's see... Raph Koster, Smedley, Richard Garriot...

And yes, I got to know Smedley from the bad comments about his policies on SoE. :P

Lustmord

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5/30/09 4:03:51 PM#13
Originally posted by Valeran

Surprising seeing Smed so high on the list.

 

Surprising seeing Garriot so low on the list.

finnmacool1

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5/30/09 10:31:47 PM#14

Considering the plethora of crap games released 2008, i dont think being on that list is a compliment.

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5/30/09 10:34:19 PM#15

Congrats to Jeff Steefel :)

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Lidane

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5/31/09 12:12:35 AM#16
Originally posted by Lustmord
Originally posted by Valeran

Surprising seeing Smed so high on the list.

Surprising seeing Garriot so low on the list.

Smed's current game (Free Realms) has over 2 million registered users and is an undeniable success for SOE. Garriott's most recent game was shut down.

Why are their positions on this chart, which is for 2008, BTW, a surprise again?

gnlLucid

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5/31/09 1:24:56 AM#17

Red = People I know of...

1. Rob Pardo
2. Hilmar Pétursson
3. John Smedley
4. Jack Emmert
5. Mark Jacobs
6. Todd Coleman
7. Jim Crowley
8. Andrew Gower
9. Chris Cheung
10. Michael Capps
11. Raph Koster
12. Rob Seaver
13. Jeffrey Steefel
14. Russell Williams
15. Gaute Godager
16. Richard Garriott
17. Min Kim
18. Gordon Walton
19. David Perry
20. Jeff Hickman & Paul Barnett

khartman2005

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5/31/09 2:38:48 AM#18
Originally posted by gnlLucid

Red = People I know of...

1. Rob Pardo - World of Warcraft
2. Hilmar Pétursson - Eve Online
3. John Smedley - Star Wars Galaxies
4. Jack Emmert  - Star Trek Online
5. Mark Jacobs - Warhammer Online
6. Todd Coleman - Wizard 101
7. Jim Crowley - Lord of the Rings Online and DDO. He is the CEO of Turbine
8. Andrew Gower - Runescape
9. Chris Cheung - NCsofts President
10. Michael Capps -this guy I think was involved in the Gears of Wars series.
11. Raph Koster - Original developer of Star Wars Galaxies who was promoted within SOE. Smed took over and it turned to crap.
12. Rob Seaver - CEO of Vivox
13. Jeffrey Steefel - Works for Turbine and is the current producer for Lord of the Rings Online
14. Russell Williams - Pirates of the Burning Sea
15. Gaute Godager- Age of Conan
16. Richard Garriott - Tabula Rasa
17. Min Kim - Maple Story
18. Gordon Walton - Better know for Star Wars Galaxies - Jump to lightspeed expansion
19. David Perry - I had never heard of this guy so I looked him up on Wikipedia. It seems he was in on Earthworm Jim.
20. Jeff Hickman & Paul Barnett- Warhammer Online

 

I hope that enlightens you some :) I knew most of them but there were a few I had to look up.

gnlLucid

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5/31/09 3:34:45 AM#19
Originally posted by khartman2005
Originally posted by gnlLucid

Red = People I know of...

1. Rob Pardo - World of Warcraft
2. Hilmar Pétursson - Eve Online
3. John Smedley - Star Wars Galaxies
4. Jack Emmert  - Star Trek Online
5. Mark Jacobs - Warhammer Online
6. Todd Coleman - Wizard 101
7. Jim Crowley - Lord of the Rings Online and DDO. He is the CEO of Turbine
8. Andrew Gower - Runescape
9. Chris Cheung - NCsofts President
10. Michael Capps -this guy I think was involved in the Gears of Wars series.
11. Raph Koster - Original developer of Star Wars Galaxies who was promoted within SOE. Smed took over and it turned to crap.
12. Rob Seaver - CEO of Vivox
13. Jeffrey Steefel - Works for Turbine and is the current producer for Lord of the Rings Online
14. Russell Williams - Pirates of the Burning Sea
15. Gaute Godager- Age of Conan
16. Richard Garriott - Tabula Rasa
17. Min Kim - Maple Story
18. Gordon Walton - Better know for Star Wars Galaxies - Jump to lightspeed expansion
19. David Perry - I had never heard of this guy so I looked him up on Wikipedia. It seems he was in on Earthworm Jim.
20. Jeff Hickman & Paul Barnett- Warhammer Online

 

I hope that enlightens you some :) I knew most of them but there were a few I had to look up.


 

AH! Thank you.  ( Though I dont like to credit Garriot for TR... as I think he has gone insane since the days of Ultima Online )

eyeswideopen

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5/31/09 4:34:14 AM#20
Originally posted by khartman2005
Originally posted by gnlLucid

Red = People I know of...

1. Rob Pardo - World of Warcraft
2. Hilmar Pétursson - Eve Online
3. John Smedley - Star Wars Galaxies
4. Jack Emmert  - Star Trek Online
5. Mark Jacobs - Warhammer Online
6. Todd Coleman - Wizard 101
7. Jim Crowley - Lord of the Rings Online and DDO. He is the CEO of Turbine
8. Andrew Gower - Runescape
9. Chris Cheung - NCsofts President
10. Michael Capps -this guy I think was involved in the Gears of Wars series.
11. Raph Koster - Original developer of Star Wars Galaxies who was promoted within SOE. Smed took over and it turned to crap.
12. Rob Seaver - CEO of Vivox
13. Jeffrey Steefel - Works for Turbine and is the current producer for Lord of the Rings Online
14. Russell Williams - Pirates of the Burning Sea
15. Gaute Godager- Age of Conan
16. Richard Garriott - Tabula Rasa
17. Min Kim - Maple Story
18. Gordon Walton - Better know for Star Wars Galaxies - Jump to lightspeed expansion
19. David Perry - I had never heard of this guy so I looked him up on Wikipedia. It seems he was in on Earthworm Jim.
20. Jeff Hickman & Paul Barnett- Warhammer Online

 

I hope that enlightens you some :) I knew most of them but there were a few I had to look up.


 

David Perry is the moron behind 2moons ( i.e. sucky Dekaron copy ).

Flummoxed

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5/31/09 11:53:48 AM#21

Musta been a slow MMOG news month, this is just a "Top n" list of some random topic used to fill space.

 

I'd rather see a list of most influencial =current= Designers from some knowledgeable org like Gamasutra.

Khalathwyr

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6/01/09 10:10:18 AM#22
Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

Tbh the only one I care about there is Raph Koster. Seeing Smedley on the list proves that the person who wrote this doesn't play mmorpgs.


 

It also proves you don't read very well too, John, lol. The articles says it lists the top 20 most influential, for good or BAD, in the industry. Until you read why the authors put him there, you really can't make the assumption they don't play MMOs. They could have rated him there because he is the biggest DB in the industry. Now, if they rated him high for "good" reasons or if they had named the list the "top 20 most positive influential people" in the industry, well, then I'm right there with you flying the BS flag.

Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.


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6/01/09 11:23:30 AM#23
Originally posted by khartman2005
Originally posted by gnlLucid

Red = People I know of...

1. Rob Pardo - World of Warcraft
2. Hilmar Pétursson - Eve Online
3. John Smedley - Star Wars Galaxies
4. Jack Emmert  - Star Trek Online
5. Mark Jacobs - Warhammer Online
6. Todd Coleman - Wizard 101
7. Jim Crowley - Lord of the Rings Online and DDO. He is the CEO of Turbine
8. Andrew Gower - Runescape
9. Chris Cheung - NCsofts President
10. Michael Capps -this guy I think was involved in the Gears of Wars series.
11. Raph Koster - Original developer of Star Wars Galaxies who was promoted within SOE. Smed took over and it turned to crap.
12. Rob Seaver - CEO of Vivox
13. Jeffrey Steefel - Works for Turbine and is the current producer for Lord of the Rings Online
14. Russell Williams - Pirates of the Burning Sea
15. Gaute Godager- Age of Conan
16. Richard Garriott - Tabula Rasa
17. Min Kim - Maple Story
18. Gordon Walton - Better know for Star Wars Galaxies - Jump to lightspeed expansion
19. David Perry - I had never heard of this guy so I looked him up on Wikipedia. It seems he was in on Earthworm Jim.
20. Jeff Hickman & Paul Barnett- Warhammer Online

 

I hope that enlightens you some :) I knew most of them but there were a few I had to look up.

 

Oh dear oh dear how quickly they forget:

16. Richard Garriott - Tabula Rasa, Ultima Online, Ultima X, Ultima IX, Ultima VIII, Ultima VII, Ultima VI, Ultima V, Ultima IV, Ultima III, Ultima II, Ultima I and who can forget... Mondain....

Richard Garriott is one of, if not the, fathers of the Computer Fantasy RPG Genre.  Ultima, Wizardry, Bard's Tale... those were the big 3 for a long long time.  Ultima Online, to this day, is still a surviving MMO Title with nearly 100,000 players (though I think it's still suffering trickle-out death since it's over 11 years old now).

11. Raph Koster - Original developer of Star Wars Galaxies who was promoted within SOE. Smed took over and it turned to crap.  Also one of the primary developers of Ultima Online.  Raph is widely acknowledged as one of the premier experts on how to develop a sandbox style MMORPG. 

3. John Smedley - Star Wars Galaxies.  EverQuest 2, EverQuest.  While Brad McQuaid was the primary developer, Smedley was the producer for EverQuest as well.   While he did oversee the utter crap that SWG became he's also well known for helping to bring EverQuest to the world... which was the game that, along with Ultima Online, made software companies realize that MMOGs were a profitable industry that could be brought mainstream.
 

cerebrix

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6/06/09 3:53:57 PM#24
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
Originally posted by cerebrix

 the fact that godager is still on that list makes me happy.  ao's skill system is still one of the best ever designed.


  

Why give that asswipe credit for the ( original ) devs work? The only thing he accomplished was co-founding Funcom. Everything else he touched was shit ( as evidenced by the Shadowlands expansion and Age of Crap ).

  because godager WAS the original lead designer of anarchy online, ragnar tornquist developed the story (and hated it at the time). We give him credit because, it was his design.

 

/facepalm

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cerebrix

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6/06/09 4:06:03 PM#25

David Perry is the moron behind 2moons ( i.e. sucky Dekaron copy ).

youre just full of bullshit arent you?

David Perry has been nothing more than a marketting face for acclaim since they started back up as a new company.  Anyone who pays attention knows he hasnt designed or programmed since MDK.  After that, he was an executive producer that gave design advice to his team's at shiny (during messiah, sacrifice, enter the matrix, and the path of neo).

During his time as the "accliam guy" hes spent more time writing books on game design, giving speeches about game design, and acting as a board member of several game design schools.  acclaim is nothing more than a paycheck he has to phone in.

 

I don't think David has wanted to dedicate the time it would take him to do design and programming again since his daughter was born.  The man's got his priorities straight.  If you were raised in Belfast during its more dangerous time, youd want to focus on your kid too.

 

I just hope we get to see David design again in our lifetime.  MDK was friggin brilliant.

 

Oh 2 final points....

 

2 Moons IS Dekaron, its not a Dekaron copy, they just use older builds and relocalize the game into english.  It's not a copy...

 

and finally, David did a lot of design on Earthworm Jim, which is true, but that was Doug TenNapel's design, not David's.

 

Games i'm playing right now...

"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com

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