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General Discussion  » Summary of Afghan vs. CoTC Siege

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wyrdaskolir

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5/24/09 1:44:43 AM#1

I should be sleeping but I'm typing out a summary quickly so there will be gramatical errors everywhere. I will include pictures as well.


Today was just another typical normal day where we went about our business crafting, training, pvp trips, harvesting and then all of a sudden I look at my system log and enemy forces have been spotted. I was thinking, who cares just another raid, not like they are going to do anything. Then boom - Panic has declared war on Awful Company, Awful Company has been challenged by Panic for control over Mar shral. All of us are like OH CRAP since we've never been sieged. Worst of all, it's one of the best players and clans in the game - afghan alliance. The Mercs/ Rainbow Ninjas/ Panic/ Hail/ Murder herd/ Covert Ops/ as well as the SB Alliance (Vamp, Undead Lords, Shipwrecked pirates, etc.) and others are all against us. It's kinda quiet for the first few minutes and our leaders and diplomats prepare for the defensive siege.


They contact the KFC Alliance north of us who we helped in the past and Dusk who would come later in the end to aid us. We call our entire alliance to come to Mar Shral for defensive procedures. While the time is ticking with about 2-3 hours left before our city goes vulnerable most of our alliance is here on top of our waterfall and clan keep as well as the fighters guild. We are on high ground in order to shoot down at enemies to gain the advantage.As the time nears 1 hr, we are getting more notifications of diplomacy and we ally the KFC alliance and some of Dusk alliance.At this point all of us are geared up and ready waiting for the inevitable battle.I am on the waterfall and sometimes at the clan fighters guild scouting down and looking for enemies that may approach.


Suddenly, one of our leaders discovered that one of the clans in our alliance were betrayers who tried to help the afghan alliance. We promptly kicked them out of our alliance by declaring war on them and killing them as well as removing them from our bindstone. These spies were killed before they could inflict serious damage since our enemies did not show up yet.


As the timer neared 0, we have reports that one of our clan cities, the KGB city called Andruk is being attacked by the Afghans and they even brought out warhulks and cannons and decimated the entire city. Only two structures were left I heard. None of us who were in Mar Shral defending our city went to help because we knew it was a trick to lure our forces out.


Now our city clanstone is vulnerable to attack and our enemies will have 2 hours to attack and capture our city. For some reason they arrive with 1 hr left for them to attack but they show up with their entire force. We have reports of enemies approaching the north gate. I see a load of mounted and geared people from the top of my waterfall. This is where the epic battle begins and I am nervous as ****.


They push in as one of their spies in our alliance opens the gate for them. They infiltrate the city and get inside buildings for cover. At this point, we have reports of enemies coming from the south which is where they will target our bindstone with tons of cannons (I saw at least 7+). We are split while attacking enemies in the north who are trying to get deeper while the main attackers are in the south trying to destroy our bindstone.


We kill most of the enemies in the North and they soon disappear one by one. Now they are not as big of a threat but many are hiding in buildings. We then shift our focus on the south as most in the north are retreating. The situation was looking bad for my alliance since they just destroyed the wall and now can shoot their cannons and spells at our clanstone, therefore damaging it. They get deeper and eventually fight us close up. I rush into them with allies to distract them and it is a pretty long fight. Then I see the wall getting rebuilt and the enemies scramble to run so they don't get trapped inside and picked off. Our clanstone is at 70% health which is pretty safe with a timer of 30 minutes left. I feel much better after I thought they were going to take our city for sure for a second.


Now it is our turn to make a push to kill them off. We rush their cannons and kill the people using them and made them get back little by little. Both sides suffer heavy losses but eventually they are pushed off the plateau and we gain control of it. We destroy their cannons and now they have no chance to win. There is 10 minutes left and we are extremely happy by the fact that we saved the city with the help of allies. We then win the challenge and the money they put up for the siege is given to us since the clan that declared the siege did not have a city officially in their name. We got 184k from them as a result of successfully defending our city. I can't really get in depth because I should be sleeping right now... so tired I forgot lots of parts to summarize, can't remember anything else.I also got a few kills off of fully geared enemies :)

 

 

 

Here are pictures (doesn't show fighting because I can't take pictures in combat ) :

Lots of images in the same places but I just like to take a lot.

 

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4533/darkfall200905231839063.png

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6048/darkfall200905231820069.png

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http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5982/darkfall200905231853402.png

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http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4035/darkfall200905231913032.png

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6942/darkfall200905231918221.png

 

 http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3876/darkfall200905232055022.png

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3786/darkfall200905232137494.png - me naked after death

 

 

 


 


 

 

 

Majinash

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5/24/09 2:01:31 AM#2

EDIT: sounded like fun, Glad to not hear about big hacks ruining the whole thing.

wyrdaskolir

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5/24/09 2:03:28 AM#3

There were no hacks but there were betrayers throughout the siege! I also forgot to mention that our clan bank was robbed because it was infiltrated and the person kicked everyone and we had to rejoin the clan. It happened right before the attackers came. Anyways I gotta sleep now.

Majinash

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5/24/09 2:05:27 AM#4

well yes, but I've always thought that kind of stuff was legit.  as long as you can control who in the clan has powers to access banks/kick people, its a matter of them being smart enough to get you to let them have the power, not cheating at all.

wyrdaskolir

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5/24/09 2:10:32 AM#5

last thing i gotta say is that I was so scared I was going to lose my home so I and a few others made my way to rush their cannon shooters and distracted them for a while. it was so exciting thing that ever happened to me in this game

konag

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5/24/09 2:14:46 AM#6

Yeah but exploits were used! Rebuilding the walls midfight is an unintended game mechanic. From accounts that I've heard based on the position of the cannons and the way the fight was going the clanstone would have been leveled.

cpthowdy

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5/24/09 2:15:26 AM#7

you destroyed their cannons? why not use them yourselves? is this not a sandbox??

sanedor

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5/24/09 2:18:55 AM#8

Nice pictures of people standing around , to bad nothing of the battle, but i love this one

 

so what the hell are the ones in the top right of the screen doing.???? is that some kind of pre battle warm up lolol.. great graphics .. thanks for the help

 

cpthowdy

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5/24/09 2:21:31 AM#9

the flying boat is dropping them off!!!

harmonica

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5/24/09 2:25:40 AM#10
Originally posted by cpthowdy

you destroyed their cannons? why not use them yourselves? is this not a sandbox??

 

Good thing you weren't in charge, otherwise everyone would've died trying to use their canons rather than killing them from the city.

wyrdaskolir

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5/24/09 2:40:22 AM#11
Originally posted by konag

Yeah but exploits were used! Rebuilding the walls midfight is an unintended game mechanic. From accounts that I've heard based on the position of the cannons and the way the fight was going the clanstone would have been leveled.

 

back for a sec, ROFL the afghan alliance called it an exploit because they were mad that they lost. Don't listen to them they are frustrated that they lost the siege. If it was unintended then aventurine would fix it because everyone knows you could build buildings anytime ever since release

 

[Originally posted by sanedor

Nice pictures of people standing around , to bad nothing of the battle, but i love this one

 


so what the hell are the ones in the top right of the screen doing.???? is that some kind of pre battle warm up lolol.. great graphics .. thanks for the help]

 


those people were messing around, just standing on top of each other to form a ladder
 

cpthowdy

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5/24/09 2:41:39 AM#12
Originally posted by harmonica
Originally posted by cpthowdy

you destroyed their cannons? why not use them yourselves? is this not a sandbox??

 

Good thing you weren't in charge, otherwise everyone would've died trying to use their canons rather than killing them from the city.


 

he stated the enemy was fleeing, why not use any equipment they left behind? i am sure cannons take a few resources to build, why destroy them? just keep for your town defenses or turn them on the fleeing enemy. wouldnt it be easier to kill the operator than to kill the cannon itself? how would they all be dying if they killed the operator and used the cannon themselves, please explain.

rhinok

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5/24/09 2:48:24 AM#13
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir
Originally posted by konag

Yeah but exploits were used! Rebuilding the walls midfight is an unintended game mechanic. From accounts that I've heard based on the position of the cannons and the way the fight was going the clanstone would have been leveled.

 

back for a sec, ROFL the afghan alliance called it an exploit because they were mad that they lost. Don't listen to them they are frustrated that they lost the siege. If it was unintended then aventurine would fix it because everyone knows you could build buildings anytime ever since release

Sorry, but Aventurine has yet to prove they're very good about fixing exploits, whether they're public knowledge or not. An exploit is using a game's mechanics--to your advantage--in a manner that's unintended and is allowed through faulty design, bugs or some other means.  Please note, I'm not saying this is an exploit.  I wasn't there and I don't know the specifics. I simply take exception to that statement, because it's over-generalized.  That being said, it does seem like an exploit if players can build so quickly that it significantly mitigates damage. I can't imagine that being an intended game mechanic.

~Ripper

Tuche

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5/24/09 3:01:54 AM#14

Well said, what is the point to destroy a wall if it can be rebuilt minutes after ?

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Respit

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5/24/09 4:45:38 AM#15
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir
Originally posted by konag

Yeah but exploits were used! Rebuilding the walls midfight is an unintended game mechanic. From accounts that I've heard based on the position of the cannons and the way the fight was going the clanstone would have been leveled.

 

back for a sec, ROFL the afghan alliance called it an exploit because they were mad that they lost. Don't listen to them they are frustrated that they lost the siege. If it was unintended then aventurine would fix it because everyone knows you could build buildings anytime ever since release

Sorry, but Aventurine has yet to prove they're very good about fixing exploits, whether they're public knowledge or not. An exploit is using a game's mechanics--to your advantage--in a manner that's unintended and is allowed through faulty design, bugs or some other means.  Please note, I'm not saying this is an exploit.  I wasn't there and I don't know the specifics. I simply take exception to that statement, because it's over-generalized.  That being said, it does seem like an exploit if players can build so quickly that it significantly mitigates damage. I can't imagine that being an intended game mechanic.

~Ripper

I wouldn't say it would be an exploit, more like bad game design. Whether or not intended, doesn't really matter.

Many RTS's allow repair while under attack, but usually it is to hold off the inevitable destruction, unless the attacking force is defeated.

 

Just goes to show that the development team do not really have any idea about games in general, much less MMORPG's.

 

 

To the original poster, if you are going to put quite a few addresses up, at least make them linkable. Thanks.

 

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TenBlue

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5/24/09 5:14:16 AM#16

Sounds like a lot of fun :).  What happens when you die in one of these sieges?  Do the attackers get sent back to their own city if they're killed or do they respawn close to the battle?

daarco

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5/24/09 5:28:23 AM#17

Another battle i missed due to work (¤#*%).

But it sounds like tons of fun. I know the rush you get in DF battles : )

konag

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5/24/09 5:31:05 AM#18
Originally posted by TenBlue

Sounds like a lot of fun :).  What happens when you die in one of these sieges?  Do the attackers get sent back to their own city if they're killed or do they respawn close to the battle?

 

They respawn where they binded, so most likely their city. The defenders on the other hand respawn naked and continue zerging.

wyrdaskolir

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5/24/09 1:18:20 PM#19
Originally posted by konag
Originally posted by TenBlue

Sounds like a lot of fun :).  What happens when you die in one of these sieges?  Do the attackers get sent back to their own city if they're killed or do they respawn close to the battle?

 

They respawn where they binded, so most likely their city. The defenders on the other hand respawn naked and continue zerging.

 

Thats why the attackers need to take control of the entire city in order to win. They almost did but we pushed them back out.

khaelf

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5/25/09 1:49:06 AM#20

You make it look like it was an even and a fair fight when in fact it wasn't. First you had people lagging up the server, trying to make it crash. Then you had SN sent after the shard holder, who sploited their way up (using a macro program) to a place that's virtually impossible for a single person to get to. You failed both times, so you put your scrub armor and your pvp sandals on and started carebearing it up with the rest of the server. Reading the ALLY spam in system log was hilarious and just showed your true colors. Over 1600 people in cotc + 1300 in dusk + 400 in kfc + sn vs. 150 in afghanistan + let's genereously say, 150 in co/mh + a few poeple from sb alliance, but hell, let's say the whole 590 people big sb alliance came to fight. That's ~3300 vs. ~890. You had double the numbers before you decided to ally the second largest alliance on the server and kfc. You outnumbered the whole attacking force 3:1 (at least), and yet failed to defend one of your cities and almost lost MS as well.

Not meant as a whine or anything, just setting your story straight and adding a little bit more detail. Watching you get your crap stolen from the bank, get your people kicked from the guild by a spy, desperately ally the whole server in hopes of saving a bunch of pixels was enough of a reward for me. Thanks.

Woopin

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5/25/09 2:49:45 AM#21

That was a fun fight did not make the first siege as I was rebuilding our city gates and cannons ready for when SB came back with Mercs :)

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Woopin

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5/25/09 3:01:52 AM#22
Originally posted by khaelf

Over 1600 people in cotc + 1300 in dusk + 400 in kfc + sn vs. 150 in afghanistan + let's genereously say, 150 in co/mh + a few poeple from sb alliance, but hell, let's say the whole 590 people big sb alliance came to fight. That's ~3300 vs. ~890.

 

Ok just want to point a few facts out here.

DUSK is 90% EU and Most (99%) are over 18 and work and wives etc. Siege was in the 4am Timezone for EU. Dusk having 1300 Try 50 at that siege.

CotC Have a whole bunch of EU guilds And East Coast US also not sure on exact numbers but they had a good 60 at the 2nd siege.

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SB did the siege in there own prime time pre-planned so they had the numbers.

Mercs are mostly West Coast also and was in there own prime time too.

 

If you bring time zones into the factor here then you will see that it was pretty even spread of numbers.

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cosy

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5/25/09 5:58:39 AM#23
javac

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5/25/09 6:40:10 AM#24
Originally posted by cosy

www.youtube.com/watch related vid

 

disappointed i missed this battle.

 

yet another video of a battle involving well over 1K players in a single siege showing zero hacks and barely any lag... wonder how the trolls will try to spin this?

 

this is the *real* darkfall.

khaelf

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5/25/09 12:13:13 PM#25

If you bring time zones into the factor here then you will see that it was pretty even spread of numbers.

You seem like an unbiased and trustworthy person, since you did not engage in the nutcupping and are not a member of the Vindicators. Oh wait... Cut the bs.

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