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Routver

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5/21/09 6:47:59 PM#76

I hope Tasos and crew realize this does more damage to the game than any  2/10 review out there.

 

If they cannot acknowledge this, they are beyond help.

damian7

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why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

5/21/09 6:49:50 PM#77
Originally posted by Vynt

I'm surprised no one spun this saying the game is a sandbox and you are suppose to be able to do anything. The proof is someone was able to steal and fly a ship. This is the best sandbox ever!


 

dude... i want to fly a city...

 

how do i do it....  damn this sandbox... it'd best let me do it~!!

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

gnomad1

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5/21/09 6:57:28 PM#78
Originally posted by damian7
Originally posted by Vynt

I'm surprised no one spun this saying the game is a sandbox and you are suppose to be able to do anything. The proof is someone was able to steal and fly a ship. This is the best sandbox ever!


 

dude... i want to fly a city...

 

how do i do it....  damn this sandbox... it'd best let me do it~!!


 

Paragus1's clan city is on a floating rock. Sounds like a great place to start LOL

rhinok

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5/21/09 7:01:05 PM#79
Originally posted by Routver

I hope Tasos and crew realize this does more damage to the game than any  2/10 review out there.

 

If they cannot acknowledge this, they are beyond help.

According to this thread, it's been at least 24 hours since the information was made public.  I've yet to see a dev response to it.

~Ripper

RZetlin

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5/21/09 7:19:14 PM#80

But hacking and cheaing is part of the Darkfall hardcore experience! 

namelessbob

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5/21/09 7:23:06 PM#81
Originally posted by RZetlin

But hacking and cheaing is part of the Darkfall hardcore experience! 

 

That is the niche market they were going for right? Hackers and scammers?

rav3n2

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5/21/09 7:25:39 PM#82
Originally posted by namelessbob
Originally posted by RZetlin

But hacking and cheaing is part of the Darkfall hardcore experience! 

 

That is the niche market they were going for right? Hackers and scammers?

 

LOL, touche!

cukimunga

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5/21/09 7:26:14 PM#83
Originally posted by Gekko101
Originally posted by cukimunga

Did you ever think of trying to kill that guy that just jumped on your ship?  Just wondering it looked like you just didnt care he jumped abored.  But that was funny it was like some David Copperfield shit, it litteraly vanished beneth your feet.  I have never seen any game that has had that crazy of hacks.

 

He no cliped into the ship he did not "jump on it"

 

And then he teleported himself and the ship out

 

Who was the person around 1:48 with a bow jumping onto the ship then?  I thought that was who ninja swiped the ship.

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rhinok

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5/21/09 7:27:52 PM#84
Originally posted by cukimunga
Originally posted by Gekko101
Originally posted by cukimunga

Did you ever think of trying to kill that guy that just jumped on your ship?  Just wondering it looked like you just didnt care he jumped abored.  But that was funny it was like some David Copperfield shit, it litteraly vanished beneth your feet.  I have never seen any game that has had that crazy of hacks.

 

He no cliped into the ship he did not "jump on it"

 

And then he teleported himself and the ship out

 

Who was the person around 1:48 with a bow jumping onto the ship then?  I thought that was who ninja swiped the ship.

That's what it looked like to me, too. It looked like he jumped out of the water over the side of the ship.  I also wondered why nobody attacked him.

~Ripper

pwnzorellOr

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5/21/09 7:39:30 PM#85
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by cukimunga
Originally posted by Gekko101
Originally posted by cukimunga

Did you ever think of trying to kill that guy that just jumped on your ship?  Just wondering it looked like you just didnt care he jumped abored.  But that was funny it was like some David Copperfield shit, it litteraly vanished beneth your feet.  I have never seen any game that has had that crazy of hacks.

 

He no cliped into the ship he did not "jump on it"

 

And then he teleported himself and the ship out

 

Who was the person around 1:48 with a bow jumping onto the ship then?  I thought that was who ninja swiped the ship.

That's what it looked like to me, too. It looked like he jumped out of the water over the side of the ship.  I also wondered why nobody attacked him.

~Ripper


 

because everyone on that boat was macroing.

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damian7

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Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 4514

why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

5/21/09 7:40:47 PM#86
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by Routver

I hope Tasos and crew realize this does more damage to the game than any  2/10 review out there.

 

If they cannot acknowledge this, they are beyond help.

According to this thread, it's been at least 24 hours since the information was made public.  I've yet to see a dev response to it.

~Ripper


 

i wonder if that thread will magically disappear.

 

it would be too funny if a "reviewer" was present when all that happened.

 

who is the person that did it?  cuz i believe stasis is fighting cactus... don't think any goons are in stasis.

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

damian7

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Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 4514

why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

5/21/09 7:41:51 PM#87
Originally posted by pwnzorellOr
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by cukimunga
Originally posted by Gekko101
Originally posted by cukimunga

Did you ever think of trying to kill that guy that just jumped on your ship?  Just wondering it looked like you just didnt care he jumped abored.  But that was funny it was like some David Copperfield shit, it litteraly vanished beneth your feet.  I have never seen any game that has had that crazy of hacks.

 

He no cliped into the ship he did not "jump on it"

 

And then he teleported himself and the ship out

 

Who was the person around 1:48 with a bow jumping onto the ship then?  I thought that was who ninja swiped the ship.

That's what it looked like to me, too. It looked like he jumped out of the water over the side of the ship.  I also wondered why nobody attacked him.

~Ripper


 

because everyone on that boat was macroing.


 

oh, that ship belonge to themercs?  i thought it belonged to someone in cactis.

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

DevilXaphan

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5/21/09 7:43:00 PM#88

LOL the ship is already up for sale.


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Majinash

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5/21/09 10:26:48 PM#89

so many people requesting darth post in this thread.  he somehow managed to make his way to the hacker thread, and claim that he has never seen a hacker in DF ;p  so i doubt he'll be around here.

Alandora

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Posts: 356

5/21/09 10:51:19 PM#90

All games have bugs.  But they are visual bugs.  You get some weird graphic error on your client, but the server still 'sees' things as they are meant to be.  For instance, there is a hack for WOW that allows you to change your stats on your character screen.  But in the end, it is worthless because the server still computes things with your 'real' skills.  You can also 'replace' the graphic for your weapon to be a cooler weapon, but the stats can't be affected.  The reason is because most of the computations and gameplay is run server-side.

Darkfall, in an attempt to allow 10k players per server,  absolutely minimized that amount of computations going on on their servers.  Almost everything is done on your computer (client) and then your computer tells the server what happened.  This is why it is amazingly easy to have real gameplay hacks with Darkfall.   It's all about their attempt to get 10k players on a single server.  the same reason there are so few mobs in the game (the require server power).

The hacks in most real MMORPGs are simply cosmetic changes that other players can never see.   This ship theft is all about DF's crazy client-side programming.

Also to note, this stuff can never be fixed.  They may be able to track hacks like this one, but they will never be able to keep up with other hacks that will be easily introduced.  The hacks in Darkfall will just keep getting more and more 'signficant' as the coders learn how to adjust more things.  the only way Darkfall can recover is if they rewrite both the client and server to make more calculations server-side.

 

eycel

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5/21/09 11:19:21 PM#91

According to this thread, it's been at least 24 hours since the information was made public. I've yet to see a dev response to it.

~Ripper
 

 

in all honesty i didnt think this thread could get any better, but alas iv been proven wrong. 

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ToteLeeLost

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5/21/09 11:59:40 PM#92

That video was hilarious.  My favorite part was when they all fell into the water.

Spiritof55

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Posts: 225

5/22/09 12:02:31 AM#93

LMFAO!   Damn that was funny. 

Seeing the boat fly through the air was priceless.

Seytan

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Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 553

5/22/09 1:01:23 AM#94
Originally posted by Majinash

so many people requesting darth post in this thread.  he somehow managed to make his way to the hacker thread, and claim that he has never seen a hacker in DF ;p  so i doubt he'll be around here.


 

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Dont worry ;} he will eventually, after all isnt a moth attracted to light? And so...Darth will come.

rhinok

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Posts: 1223

5/22/09 9:58:36 AM#95

Doesn't look like it's been resolved yet, according to the official boards.  There definitely hasn't been any public dev response, which is unfortunate, since the issue has been made public.

~Ripper

Respit

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5/22/09 10:08:22 AM#96
Originally posted by rhinok

Doesn't look like it's been resolved yet, according to the official boards.  There definitely hasn't been any public dev response, which is unfortunate, since the issue has been made public.

~Ripper

Pretty typical response from AV.

 

I'm pretty sure that the morning meetings go something like this...

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Devour

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5/22/09 10:21:00 AM#97
Originally posted by Respit

Pretty typical response from AV.

 

I'm pretty sure that the morning meetings go something like this...


 

Wow. The hear no evil monkey looks REALLY REALLY stressed.

Spoonpott

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Joined: 1/11/09
Posts: 183

5/22/09 1:19:27 PM#98
Originally posted by Respit
Originally posted by rhinok

Doesn't look like it's been resolved yet, according to the official boards.  There definitely hasn't been any public dev response, which is unfortunate, since the issue has been made public.

~Ripper

Pretty typical response from AV.

 

I'm pretty sure that the morning meetings go something like this...

 

You just wait. I'm sure Tasos will post a whine thread complaining to Youtube for bringing the game down by allowing the advertisement of "isolated incidents", and that DF is a niche game, and there's nothing like it.

Just so you know, I called it.

The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.

ianubisi

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5/22/09 1:23:44 PM#99


Originally posted by rhinok
Doesn't look like it's been resolved yet, according to the official boards.  There definitely hasn't been any public dev response, which is unfortunate, since the issue has been made public.
~Ripper

They can't fix it without completely redesigning the game. When you put processing on the client you open yourself to this kind of attack. Nothing will stop it, and bans aren't sufficient to stop its abuse.

Majinash

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5/22/09 3:00:47 PM#100
Originally posted by ianubisi

 


Originally posted by rhinok
Doesn't look like it's been resolved yet, according to the official boards.  There definitely hasn't been any public dev response, which is unfortunate, since the issue has been made public.
~Ripper

 

They can't fix it without completely redesigning the game. When you put processing on the client you open yourself to this kind of attack. Nothing will stop it, and bans aren't sufficient to stop its abuse.

 

 

and honestly it really sucks.  because there are a few things that darkfall had that many people have been really REALLY looking foward to.  like the ship that got hacked.  its too bad they did such a bad job with the rest of the game that it just doesn't feel worth playing to get to the features I'd love to see in every MMO I play.

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