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5/21/09 9:43:58 AM#201
LOL, what does Tacos have to say about this review? DF is finally getting the official bashing it deserves! |
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5/21/09 12:11:55 PM#202
Originally posted by xxvicexx
Sorry I actually like and play the game. Anyone rating it higher then 5 is not honest.
I likely quit playing WoW before you did. Here is where you lie and claim you never played, never liked it, it or quit in beta...instead of simply saying it got old.
"carebear"?..is that running around with your 3 friends all decked out in gear, skills you macro'd against a wall for the past month(they changed that), killing naked new players at a Goblin camps 50 steps outside a newbie town?..ah no thats the "hardcore pvper" pffffff
Darkfall is ok..if you get in then try it you might like it despite its major flaws. If you don't get in before the upcoming MMO's like Mortal, Aion, etc are released..you didn't miss anything.
If you think this is a 7/10 then EVERY MMO besides this one you better give a 9/10...WoW a 10/10.
Excellent, post. Spot on. |
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5/21/09 12:24:21 PM#203
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5. Give it a 2 and i give it a 8. thanks
Against my better judgement. Ok, I'll bite. Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it. Would you still play it? In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all. Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work. |
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5/21/09 12:41:13 PM#204
Originally posted by COORS
Against my better judgement. Ok, I'll bite. Pretend for a minute that Darkfall has NO FFA/PVP and NO FULL LOOT. I know it's silly, but just imagine it. Would you still play it? In my opinion, the only thing this game has is ffa/pvp including full loot. Take that away and you barely have a game at all. Point is. To rate a game 8 or higher, that game MUST have other redeeming qualities. You are simply kidding yourself or are way too immature to even understand how ratings work.
Thats like playing tennis without a racket fun for 20 mins but msot people that are not mentally deficent get over it very quickly. A game deserves a high grade when it good for a lot of people not 20k no lifers that roam the mmorpg forums and bash all games that have a lot of pve. I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long. |
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5/21/09 12:41:40 PM#205
Originally posted by grimal ninja quote i know but:
Why is it people assume that because they have become accustomed to, and even bored by, a particular genre of game that the industry for that genre is "failing" or "going down hill" ?
If you eat chips for every meal then you will soon tire of them. With that in mind some of you would state; "Chips have been going downhill in the last several years.....they don't really appeal to me any more."
Annnnyyy way. Sorry for that.
DF deserves NO more than a 5/10 in my humble, non important, non influencial opinion. ~~in no order~~Anarchy Online, Neocron, EQ2, Lineage2, CoH, CoV, Guild Wars+, DAoC, SWG(+NGE), Starpeace, Second life, Saga Ryzom, Planetside, Auto Assault, Eve-Online, WW2O, DDO, MxO, WoW, VSoH, LOTRO, RF-online, Cabal, Fury BETA,SotNW,TR,PotBS,AoC,WAR,GalaxyOnline, Darkfall, Fallen Earth, Aion, STO, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift, SWTOR |
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5/21/09 2:45:58 PM#206
It's a shame really, Darkfall will get all low-ish reviews, lets face it. Sorry, but no review can be accurate for Darkfall. A reviewer won't play it long enough, and someone who does play it long enough to have enough experiance to review it, must like the game. Therefore the review will be biased towards Darkfall. _________ |
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Originally posted by Adam1902
Pardon me? I played the game for almost 300 hours. It's a shallow MMO and a horrible FPS. DFO is a P2P Team Fortress with horrible FPS mechanics. Once again, |
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5/21/09 3:22:03 PM#208
Originally posted by Fariic Sorry but I don't agree with this. Why is a review supposed to create a bias? A review is simply there to rate said game/article etc. and let the reader choose whether to buy or not. Bought reviews are biased, Normal reviews aren't.
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5/21/09 3:28:02 PM#209
Originally posted by Electriceye Sorry but I don't agree with this. Why is a review supposed to create a bias? A review is simply there to rate said game/article etc. and let the reader choose whether to buy or not. Bought reviews are biased, Normal reviews aren't. All reviews are bias one way or another. It is up to the reader to determine whether their viewpoint follows the reviewer or not. Afterall, there is only one way to get an accurate review and that is to do it yourself. It's a Jeep thing. . .
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5/21/09 3:34:38 PM#210
Originally posted by Locklain All reviews are bias one way or another. It is up to the reader to determine whether their viewpoint follows the reviewer or not. Afterall, there is only one way to get an accurate review and that is to do it yourself.
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves.
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5/21/09 3:43:57 PM#211
Originally posted by Electriceye All reviews are bias one way or another. It is up to the reader to determine whether their viewpoint follows the reviewer or not. Afterall, there is only one way to get an accurate review and that is to do it yourself.
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all. It's a Jeep thing. . .
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Originally posted by Electriceye All reviews are bias one way or another. It is up to the reader to determine whether their viewpoint follows the reviewer or not. Afterall, there is only one way to get an accurate review and that is to do it yourself.
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. I'm sorry. Reviewers don't review a game to tell you what it is. The entire pupose behind a review is to tell you if a game is fun or not. The reason they rate it is to give you a baseline by wich to make a determination. A review works the same for everything. I also read what would be considered previews of my bike. They explained the dif. features of the bike. It's liquid cooled, fuel injected, it has a 185 wide rear on a 15" dusted aluminum rim with a 22" dusted aluminum front rim, etc, etc. None of the previews of the bike created any sort of a bias. At that point I'm not looking to know if the bike is worth the price, just what does the bike have on it. A preview lists the features of a game. |
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5/21/09 3:49:26 PM#213
Originally posted by Fariic
For the love of god. A REVIEW IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIASED!
Umm, no. A review is supposed to be objective. Something a rabid Darkfall fanboi who has probably not even played yet can't do.
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Originally posted by Locklain
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all.
He's a movie critic. If he says it good then he's creating a bias in the reader or viewer for the movie. He doesn't watch a movie and then tell you what it's about. He reviews them to tell you if it's worth going to the theatre to see. It's up to you to decide if you trust the reviewer or not. |
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5/21/09 3:51:52 PM#215
Originally posted by Locklain
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all. Nono these 'perfect' reviews are non existant, that's not the point. The thing I don't agree with is that reviews 'are supposed to create bias'. They are not. They are supposed to be as unbiased as possible. Their job is not to sway people's opinions. The closer they are to neutral, the better the review.
That is all.
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Originally posted by brostyn Umm, no. A review is supposed to be objective. Something a rabid Darkfall fanboi who has probably not even played yet can't do.
Um, no The reviewer should be objective, but create a bias in the reader. Read my previous two posts. And people A reviewer CREATES A BIAS. |
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5/21/09 3:54:14 PM#217
Originally posted by Electriceye
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all. Nono these 'perfect' reviews are non existant, that's not the point. The thing I don't agree with is that reviews 'are supposed to create bias'. They are not. They are supposed to be as unbiased as possible. Their job is not to sway people's opinions. The closer they are to neutral, the better the review.
That is all. That I will agree on. It's a Jeep thing. . .
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khartman2005
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5/21/09 3:54:42 PM#218
Originally posted by Electriceye
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all. Nono these 'perfect' reviews are non existant, that's not the point. The thing I don't agree with is that reviews 'are supposed to create bias'. They are not. They are supposed to be as unbiased as possible. Their job is not to sway people's opinions. The closer they are to neutral, the better the review.
That is all. Then you haven't read many reviews. Critics will always give their opinion. In the Case of Darkfall 2 reviews and both have been bad. I would be willing to bet the more reviews that come out on Darkfall you will start to see a trend leaning towards the side of don't waste you time.
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5/21/09 3:56:48 PM#219
Originally posted by nikoliath
Why is it people assume that because they have become accustomed to, and even bored by, a particular genre of game that the industry for that genre is "failing" or "going down hill" ?
I said that about multiplayer FPS because I think with Novalogic's Joint Ops and to a lesser degree Battefield2, there was an element of strategy and tactics that was required to beat a certain map or round. Now, with BF2142, COD4, COD5, it appears that that aspect or requirement has been tossed out and been replaced by simple twtiched-based gameplay...before you actually had to have some element of thought and planning to make a mark on a map...now it's whoever is jacked up on the most Red Bulls and has the .0001 second faster response wins. It's the influence of the consoles that have done to what was once becoming a very interesting trend of games. And since BF2, I have seen no other multiplayer online shooter that can hold a light to it....much less the best of them all, Joint Ops. That is why I say the multiplayer FPS is going downhill...stripped down...becoming WoW-ified, if you will. Played: Aion,AoC,APB,CO,CoX,CC,DCUO,DDO,EVE,EQ,EQ2,FE,FFXI,GA,GW(V,F,N),H:L,L2, |
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Originally posted by Electriceye
Yes but a review is not supposed 'to create a bias in the reader'. The reviewers are simply biased one way or another, but the perfect review is one that is unbiased. Many good reviewers hide their bias and it comes across as a very good review. The point of a review is not to create a bias in the reader. It's to be as Unbiased as possible and let the customers choose for themselves. Understood, but these "perfect" reviews are far and few between and are usually used on the more popular mediums. Even Roger Ebert, a well known movie critic, gives bias reviews of the movies he views. It is human nature to be bias and nearly impossible to hide it all. Nono these 'perfect' reviews are non existant, that's not the point. The thing I don't agree with is that reviews 'are supposed to create bias'. They are not. They are supposed to be as unbiased as possible. Their job is not to sway people's opinions. The closer they are to neutral, the better the review.
That is all. Bias is both a noun, and a verb. As a noun it means: a particular tendency or inclination, esp. one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice. As a verb it means: to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly For the purpose of a review bias is EXACTLY what the reviewer is SUPPOSED to do. A reviewer TELLS you if it's good or not. Hence the reason they usually come with a rating. 1 being the worse, 10 being the best. |
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