Played the trial, payed for a 1 month sub, liking the game so far. It may not be groundbreaking but what it does have, it does well. As long as I'm having fun playing, that's all that matters to me...

I'm sorry you don't have do the same dungeon countless times for a single piece of 'phat leet lootz' in Vangaurd.

Originally posted by Sneakers05

I played this game when it came out and a year after it came out, there were so many bugs and glitches, the animation definately did not feel fluid and felt sticky and clunky. The graphics are overrated and feel like clay lifeless models. the dungeons and bland and they also feel like you are not advancing. like dungeons in other mmos felt like you were going futher and deeper and saw different things as you delve in deeper.

 

This game does not have that, even the enemies and bosses are bland  so is the loot. There is really no reason to even do dungeons. In other games you can do dungeons to get better loot for that level and get good exp, in vanguard dungeons yea you can aquire exp but you get it faster if you solo, the gear is half assed and does not even scale.

 

it took them two years + to put in one  end game raid dungeon into the game. The population is extremely low and thats being gracious as well. The servers should be labled grave yard rather than low. Vanguard is the type of game that needs a good population to enjoy, nothing like walking for a very long time and not seeing another player insight.

 

One positive thing about the game is that the world is indeed very huge, huge but empty.

 

I also played the trial isle of the game it is nothing like what you will see after the isle. It is a gimmick to get you into their sheety game.

 

Do your self a favor stay far away from this game, even if it was free 2 play. save your PC the harddrive space.

 

This game only has one use, using the CD as a coaster for my drinks.

 

There is a free Trial  and I'm sure anyone with a little sense, will try it for themselves before listening to one side Rubbish like this ....

Dont feed forum trolls. Just check authors latest posts, he says about how "VG sucks" in every thread he can find. Obvious hater.

VG is a great game and I'm happy i found it. Will stick with it for years to come.

At least it's semi-realistic....When I was in a village in VG..I saw quite a few players...A bigger city...I saw more players...like in RL.  Also....last time I went hikeing/camping in RL...well...I didn't see a bunch of people running around killing squirrels for their tails...although I wasn't looking very hard ...to be honest. But I guess in an mmo this is  not acceptable...I understand that in an mmo...you must always run into to other active players and everyone of them a hero..like you.  I kind of like less apparent populations...and I have to discover  where to go for some alone time or  if I get lonely. That's just me. One thing for sure...and I have said this many times....VG has the best crafting system..imo..and I love the diplomacy system...add these to Lotro..and that would be my perfect mmo... If AoC could break its  "invisible walls" fever and add  these 2 VG systems ... I would not be able to play any mmo at all....for I would be unable to cease sh@tting myself with excitement.

Originally posted by Sneakers05

This game does not have that, even the enemies and bosses are bland  so is the loot. There is really no reason to even do dungeons. In other games you can do dungeons to get better loot for that level and get good exp, in vanguard dungeons yea you can aquire exp but you get it faster if you solo, the gear is half assed and does not even scale.

 it took them two years + to put in one  end game raid dungeon into the game. The population is extremely low and thats being gracious as well. The servers should be labled grave yard rather than low. Vanguard is the type of game that needs a good population to enjoy, nothing like walking for a very long time and not seeing another player insight.

 One positive thing about the game is that the world is indeed very huge, huge but empty.

 Do your self a favor stay far away from this game, even if it was free 2 play. save your PC the harddrive space.

 

 

Bland dungeons and bosses? No Loot? Worse EXP in dungeons than soloing? This must be the first guy who thinks that. Even the worst bashers say the dungeons are the positive of the game (even if it's jus the only positive). Worse EXP in dungeons? Hell, it's three times as fast as soloing especially in some level ranges.

Speaker your post history clearly shows your intent here. To troll Vanguard for whatever reason you have. Can you please reveal us what do you want to achieve here?

Originally posted by Sneakers05

People make positive post, I make a negative post because I know how this game really is, and yes I had the graphics maxed out because i have a pretty good rig, the graphics very much feel like plastic and no where near as good as graphics like age of conan, which in itsself is another sheety game but atleast graphically it is good and feels life like.

Making a negative post expressing your opinion of the game is fine.  Everyone is entitled to there view.  Some people might disagree and correct or try to help you with things that you say that they believe are wrong and that's fine too.  It is all good discussion and valuable viewpoints for people that come to the forums looking for information about a game.  Everyone has their own bias and having both viewpoints is good because everyone know that the truth is between the extremes.

However, when you make a post like above it really just makes you out to be a troll...  You are no longer giving your viewpoint you are now saying that everyone that posts anything positive is lying and only your viewpoint has any merit.  Further is discredits everything you have said as being completely set in an agenda to dispell anything positive said about the game as being the point of your post.  No longer an expression of what you didn't like about the game but rather an attack on people that post anything positive.

yeah sneakers should shove a sock in his mouth and chew on good old pair of his sneakers lol

Originally posted by ethion

 

However, when you make a post like above it really just makes you out to be a troll...  

 

Your side does the exact same thing Ethion, so don't get too confortable in that Abraham Lincoln outfit...

1° I agree with the OP
2° to the fanboys: we live in democracy, so you MUST respect opinions.

VG has 2 of the greatests features of mmos: Craft and Diplomacy. But it's an unfinished game, a bêta, and has a very very very low pop. Vg's dungeons have no interest. It's only grinding and bashing 4/5 dots mobs for hours. There's no story, no background, nothing.   

"do you know any good $OE game? seriously.. it's a trap!"

Lol no, stopped all SOE's mmos.

Originally posted by ougarit

1° I agree with the OP
2° to the fanboys: we live in democracy, so you MUST respect opinions.

VG has 2 of the greatests features of mmos: Craft and Diplomacy. But it's an unfinished game, a bêta, and has a very very very low pop. Vg's dungeons have no interest. It's only grinding and bashing 4/5 dots mobs for hours. There's no story, no background, nothing.   

"do you know any good $OE game? seriously.. it's a trap!"

Lol no, stopped all SOE's mmos.

Lol @trolls pleading for us respecting their opinion. No, mr, your opinion is worthless and nobody cares about it until you actually play the game past level 2 and make well written vaild arguments.

Originally posted by ougarit

1° I agree with the OP
2° to the fanboys: we live in democracy, so you MUST respect opinions.

VG has 2 of the greatests features of mmos: Craft and Diplomacy. But it's an unfinished game, a bêta, and has a very very very low pop. Vg's dungeons have no interest. It's only grinding and bashing 4/5 dots mobs for hours. There's no story, no background, nothing.   

"do you know any good $OE game? seriously.. it's a trap!"

Lol no, stopped all SOE's mmos.

so an opinion can only be an opinion if its negative and you agree with it?

I didn't play at release so I don't know what it was like.  I do know that I have been playing for a little more than a month and the game is a LOT of fun.  Crafting, diplomacy, and questing are great.  It's not holding your hand, you don;t have to follow a story line that you know the outcome for like LotRO, which I also enjoy.  It's something different and I enjoy it. 

You don't enjoy it OP so don't play it.  I think your thread title is misleading, it reads to me that you are saying the game is close to being good. 

I hear that it has gotten a LOT better from people in the guild I am in that have been playing since beta.  I didn;t take part in beta because the download was too big anf I didn;t want to wait and I heard from others that it is not worth the hassle.   So I waited a while to play and I am glad I did.

Originally posted by ougarit

1° I agree with the OP
2° to the fanboys: we live in democracy, so you MUST respect opinions.

VG has 2 of the greatests features of mmos: Craft and Diplomacy. But it's an unfinished game, a bêta, and has a very very very low pop. Vg's dungeons have no interest. It's only grinding and bashing 4/5 dots mobs for hours. There's no story, no background, nothing.   

"do you know any good $OE game? seriously.. it's a trap!"

Lol no, stopped all SOE's mmos.

Opinions are respected if someone actually plays the game and gives their reasonable opinion.  The OP obviously did not.  You'll find many mini-reviews on this thread both pro and con on Vanguard from people that tried they game, I'd encourage any player considering playing to read those.

Compared to WoW, Vanguard does have a very low population.  But then again, Vanguard only has 3 PvE servers.  So from a server/population perspective the populations are very healthy.  And you opinion on dungeons and no story or lore????  You are kidding right? 

A democracy means you have the right for an own opinion.

It does not mean you wont be riddiculed for your opinion if its obviously stupid, such as stating water is dry.

Of course Vanguard isnt the perfect game, no program is ever "perfect".

It's funny what you can gleam when you look at bad grammar. Take the title:

'Do not trust the this game is now good threads'

Which says - Don't trust any of the threads that say the game is good now

'cause it is not far from it'

Says - because it is now far from being good. (the it implies good based on the structure of the sentence).

Yeah, exactly. Express your opinion on the game; don't throw out idiotic statements about other people's reviews and thoughts about a game. Don't like the game? That's fine. Indicate why, and go on your way.

This title sense post making not not sense.  Wut?

Originally posted by Sneakers05

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by Sneakers05

Originally posted by SgtFrog

to me it sounds like you want a world of warcraft clone......

 

Thats pretty much what it is, but a bad one at that.

 

no, im saying to me it sounds like  you want VG to be a WoW clone.

>.>

why would i want VG to be a WoW clone when it already is a WoW clone but a bad one?

I stopped reading right here.

With that one statement you lose all credibility. Not that your original post was even remotely accurate.

Originally posted by ougarit

TROLLS DON'T  have opinions, they are only addicts, they never play they think they fight for a noble cause, for a religion

Nobody cares about  TROLLS/HATERS

VG is not a game, but a beta, everybody knows that. that's why no one plays vanguard.

 

Fixed that for ya...you seem to have gotten trolls and fanboys confused.

VG I agree doesn't have the greatest population. But by the sounds of it, the game took off on the wrong foot. Because of this I doubt it will ever recover from what it coulda been. It's the low population that ruined the game for me when I first started it. But everything else about it, I enjoyed. Now I am trying it out again with free trial, and I see an increase in population....servers are at least on 'Medium' during primetime hours.

But it is far from beta.

Originally posted by Sneakers05

Originally posted by MidniteHowl

 

I like the game but at least you tried it and came to your own conclusion. I disagree with your comments on the graphics and the loot though. I feel the graphics are some of the best in recent mmo's if you have a rig that can run the game in higher settings. Did you have to run the graphic settings on low to get better performance maybe? As far as loot goes, I kinda understand what you mean about the loot not scaling properly when you look at the item level compared to your own level, but it is definitely not bland. Then as far as getting better loot from dungeons goes I haven't had that problem. I've gotten decent loot from dungeons. Maybe since item drops are somewhat random, your just not getting the luck of the draw. Also, do you take quest to do these dungeons? Usually the quest giver has nice loot rewards for completing the missions in those dungeons.

 

Your right about populations, it would be more fun with a lot more people running around, but I have seen a slowly increasing population. Even after all this though I still wouldn't be making a post like yours suggesting to stay away from the game. You've made your decision not to play it, and you listed your reasons, but what's wrong with telling people to try the free trial and make their own decision instead of saying "stay away from it". This posts just seems like you want to see the game fail and shut down. Maybe I should make a post saying stay away from WoW because it's crap. I do feel that way about WoW but I don't go making posts about it for everyone to read.

 

People make positive post, I make a negative post because I know how this game really is, and yes I had the graphics maxed out because i have a pretty good rig, the graphics very much feel like plastic and no where near as good as graphics like age of conan, which in itsself is another sheety game but atleast graphically it is good and feels life like.

You mean you know how the game really is in your view/opinion. You can not say that the positive posts are wrong, and that you're post is absolutely right, and that applies, for the most part, ever.