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  Ihmotepp

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5/14/09 9:24:53 PM#1

http://www.techspot.com/news/34721-blizzard-confirms-next-mmo-based-on-new-franchise.html

 

Ok, so the next thing from Blizzard isn't Starcraft, or any other existing IP. It's something new.

Has any development team struck gold twice? Not really. Most dev teams that have released a great game in the past have not done so well on their second release. WAR is a good example. DAoC? Loved it. WAR? Not so much.

But nobody has the millions of subscribers Blizzard does with WoW, so maybe they will be the ones to do a great sequel.

 

http://www.massively.com/2009/05/13/first-official-confirmation-that-new-blizzard-mmo-is-original-ip/

 

  pencilrick

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Joined: 12/11/07
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"So sad when that happens."

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5/14/09 9:37:52 PM#2

I just hope it is traditional Tolkienesque fantasy with a bit more seriousness (but not necessarily somberness) than WOW and ZERO steampunk.  Nothing wrong with a good sandbox EQ-like game with gnomes, elves, humans, barbarians and separate starting areas. 

I do hope there is no polluting fantasy with sci-fi, but have my reservations given the computer/techno era we live in.

  ChicagoCub

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Joined: 10/14/06
Posts: 70

5/14/09 9:40:05 PM#3

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.

  Ihmotepp

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5/14/09 9:40:16 PM#4
Originally posted by pencilrick

I just hope it is traditional Tolkienesque fantasy with a bit more seriousness (but not necessarily somberness) than WOW and ZERO steampunk.  Nothing wrong with a good sandbox EQ-like game with gnomes, elves, humans, barbarians and separate starting areas. 

I do hope there is no polluting fantasy with sci-fi, but have my reservations given the computer/techno era we live in.

 

The odds are on a non-fantasy game since WoW is already a big fantasy hit. So, more than likely it IS some sort of Sci Fi or Steampunk. It's all speculation at this point, but logic dictates they go after the Sci Fi market since they already have the fantasy market.

  aleos

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5/14/09 9:42:44 PM#5

I am not a fan of wow by any means but i am looking forward to their new mmorpg. Anyone who is anyone knows blizzard makes great games.

  orionite

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5/14/09 9:43:45 PM#6

 

 

If Blizzard makes a SciFi MMO that is of the same quality as WoW, I'm gonna take a sabbatical ;) I would probably still play The Monster, if I hadn't grown thoroughly sick of the fantasy setting. I'm dying for some lasers, spacefights and aliens!

  Ihmotepp

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5/14/09 9:46:27 PM#7
Originally posted by ChicagoCub

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.

 

It's pretty smart when you think about it. You don't have to share any revenue. I'm sure LOTRO is paying a bundle to use the Tolkien franchise.

Plus, what game based on an existing franchise has done really well? LOTRO is based on one of the biggest movie franchieses ever, and it's just doing ok. Age of Conan? WAR based on the popular Warhammer IP?

WoW is the biggest kid on the block, and it was built from scratch.

  mach789

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Joined: 9/03/06
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5/14/09 9:50:17 PM#8

I like how the title involves it being based on a franchise. How many franchises are still not available in an MMO format?

Mechwarrior comes to mind.

  sanders01

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Joined: 7/05/08
Posts: 1370

To each his own.

5/14/09 9:51:25 PM#9
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by ChicagoCub

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.


WoW is the biggest kid on the block, and it was built from scratch.

Not entirely. 

But isn't this info kinda old? I know i've been hearing they wouldn't be using an existing IP for their next mmo for awhile, but nonetheless it's intresting. I hope they go with sci-fi/steampunk, a change up from the normal fantasy, and maybe even offer a discount subsctiption if your subscribed to both WoW and this new game. But that's wishing too far ahead :)

Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  Ihmotepp

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5/14/09 9:54:34 PM#10
Originally posted by sanders01
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by ChicagoCub

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.


WoW is the biggest kid on the block, and it was built from scratch.

Not entirely. 

But isn't this info kinda old? I know i've been hearing they wouldn't be using an existing IP for their next mmo for awhile, but nonetheless it's intresting. I hope they go with sci-fi/steampunk, a change up from the normal fantasy, and maybe even offer a discount subsctiption if your subscribed to both WoW and this new game. But that's wishing too far ahead :)

 

"First official confirmation that new Blizzard MMO is original IP

by Kyle Horner May 13th 2009 at 12:15AM"

This is the first time it's official.

  pencilrick

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"So sad when that happens."

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5/14/09 11:23:22 PM#11

While WOW will continue to filter through new players for some time, the old player base is growing weary and many would like to see a new fantasy MMO to take WOW's place (for them, that is).  I think a new fantasy MMO is very likely.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 11:28:41 PM#12

Whatever the game is, laser or fireball, I will buy a copy, just b/c its from blizz.  Blizz can at least afford to let me down once.  So far, none of Blizz'g games are weak.

  jusomdude

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Variety is the spice of life, unfortunately, it's also the bane of balance.

5/14/09 11:28:58 PM#13

Whatever it is I'm reluctant to try it out. I'm sure the PvE will be the same old boring crap and the PvP will be the same old boring, highly unbalanced crap. Now if by chance they're trying some highly innovative things on both accounts then I will be more inclined to try it.

If it's just WoW 2 then no thanks.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 11:32:16 PM#14
Originally posted by jusomdude

Whatever it is I'm reluctant to try it out. I'm sure the PvE will be the same old boring crap and the PvP will be the same old boring, highly unbalanced crap. Now if by chance they're trying some highly innovative things on both accounts then I will be more inclined to try it.

If it's just WoW 2 then no thanks.

 

^ this

  ericbelser

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Posts: 531

5/14/09 11:37:18 PM#15

While I couldn't stand WoW, I have never considered Blizzard anything but a first rate company. Their management team has shown an amazing ability to pick and choose elements from other games and mesh them perfectly into something just a notch better. (Of course they also slight some aspects, sadly the ones I am most interested in...but oh well) With the resources they have, if they do a SciFi game it will rock the market. I'm sure I will check it out, even if it is likely to be similar in formula to WoW.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 11:55:51 PM#16
Originally posted by ericbelser

While I couldn't stand WoW, I have never considered Blizzard anything but a first rate company. Their management team has shown an amazing ability to pick and choose elements from other games and mesh them perfectly into something just a notch better. (Of course they also slight some aspects, sadly the ones I am most interested in...but oh well) With the resources they have, if they do a SciFi game it will rock the market. I'm sure I will check it out, even if it is likely to be similar in formula to WoW.


 

Sure just $40 or so for me usually for any Blizz games, which is trivial money.  I would definitely try it out, and sub if it keeps me interested.

  dknight784

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Joined: 7/16/07
Posts: 36

"Games were ment to be played"

5/15/09 12:33:41 AM#17

Not struck gold twice!?!?

 

UH dude..Starcraft, Diablo II and Warcraft III

 

All game of the year games listed write there.

 

Millions of copies sold AND STILL SELL TODAY!

 

Blizzard is a good company that makes some of the best PC games still to date. They are one of the few companies that actually keep PC gaming alive and well.

 

I too look forward to this MMO project they are working on while I also wait for Starcraft 2 soon , Diablo 3 which again will also be two great games from blizzard.

 

Hell they could make WoW 2 and the fanboys still couldnt care less.

  boognish75

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 1507

People take mmo''s way to seriously

5/15/09 12:45:38 AM#18

what in hells bells do you mean it was built from scratch, the whole warcraft started as a tabletop game then into the warcraft game series for pc, which was a near clone of the warhammer tabletop games,...there was plenty of lore and cander to build wow into an mmo before it was an mmo.

playing eq2 and two worlds

  Reklaw

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5/15/09 1:16:18 AM#19
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by sanders01
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by ChicagoCub

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.


WoW is the biggest kid on the block, and it was built from scratch.

Not entirely. 

But isn't this info kinda old? I know i've been hearing they wouldn't be using an existing IP for their next mmo for awhile, but nonetheless it's intresting. I hope they go with sci-fi/steampunk, a change up from the normal fantasy, and maybe even offer a discount subsctiption if your subscribed to both WoW and this new game. But that's wishing too far ahead :)

 

"First official confirmation that new Blizzard MMO is original IP

by Kyle Horner May 13th 2009 at 12:15AM"

This is the first time it's official.

When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WOW--we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground," he told British film magazine Empire. "It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level."  Posted Jan 22, 2007
 

Okay it might be official right now, but in fact really old news, what would be news is if they actualy announced WHAT their new MMO will be called or be about, so sorry still don't consider this new IP news as news, rather as something old but pure posted to gain attention to those who might have forgotten what Blizzard is/was doing perhaps.

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  User Deleted
5/15/09 1:19:31 AM#20
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by sanders01
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by ChicagoCub

This is actually pretty amazing news...they're sitting on a pile of their own IP and they decide to go ground up?  Sounds like they are getting a little cocky.

 

As for Mythic, DAoC and WAR.  Using someone else's IP is always tricky and I don't think anyone other than Turbine (LotRO) has been able to pull it off, and IMHO I think that's just because of the sheer weight of the franchise pushing it along.  Had they been allowed to fully develop an opposing faction I think it would have been able to go toe to toe with WoW.


WoW is the biggest kid on the block, and it was built from scratch.

Not entirely. 

But isn't this info kinda old? I know i've been hearing they wouldn't be using an existing IP for their next mmo for awhile, but nonetheless it's intresting. I hope they go with sci-fi/steampunk, a change up from the normal fantasy, and maybe even offer a discount subsctiption if your subscribed to both WoW and this new game. But that's wishing too far ahead :)

 

"First official confirmation that new Blizzard MMO is original IP

by Kyle Horner May 13th 2009 at 12:15AM"

This is the first time it's official.

When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WOW--we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground," he told British film magazine Empire. "It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level."  Posted Jan 22, 2007
 

Okay it might be official right now, but in fact really old news, what would be news is if they actualy announced WHAT their new MMO will be called or be about, so sorry still don't consider this new IP news as news, rather as something old but pure posted to gain attention to those who might have forgotten what Blizzard is/was doing perhaps.

 

HA HAHAHAHA, thats hilarious.

  User Deleted
5/15/09 1:22:21 AM#21
Originally posted by Reklaw

....

When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WOW--we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground," he told British film magazine Empire. "It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level."  Posted Jan 22, 2007
 

Okay it might be official right now, but in fact really old news, what would be news is if they actualy announced WHAT their new MMO will be called or be about, so sorry still don't consider this new IP news as news, rather as something old but pure posted to gain attention to those who might have forgotten what Blizzard is/was doing perhaps.


 

Not really worrying.  Blizz got what it takes to make a succcessful game.  They never failed once, so far.  That speaks volumes.

  Jackio81

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Joined: 11/11/08
Posts: 437

The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant.

5/15/09 1:37:50 AM#22
Originally posted by pencilrick

I just hope it is traditional Tolkienesque fantasy with a bit more seriousness (but not necessarily somberness) than WOW and ZERO steampunk.  Nothing wrong with a good sandbox EQ-like game with gnomes, elves, humans, barbarians and separate starting areas. 

I do hope there is no polluting fantasy with sci-fi, but have my reservations given the computer/techno era we live in.


 

Ummm...NO, Tolkienesque fantasy has been done to death and I hope it's nothing like that....no orcs, no gnome, and more more damn elves....how does that sound..hmmm?

  redcap036

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5/15/09 2:01:14 AM#23
Originally posted by boognish75

what in hells bells do you mean it was built from scratch, the whole warcraft started as a tabletop game then into the warcraft game series for pc, which was a near clone of the warhammer tabletop games,...there was plenty of lore and cander to build wow into an mmo before it was an mmo.


 

"the whole warcraft started as a tabletop game then into the warcraft game series for pc,"  WTF?

Don't think so.

Show us a link or something if I'm wrong, but I have never heard of a WoW tabletop game being available BEFORE the computer game was released and I have been following the tabletop wargame/rpg's since I was twelve, I would defenetly taken notice if there was one.

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  Zorndorf

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5/15/09 4:08:05 AM#24
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

http://www.techspot.com/news/34721-blizzard-confirms-next-mmo-based-on-new-franchise.html

 

Ok, so the next thing from Blizzard isn't Starcraft, or any other existing IP. It's something new.

Has any development team struck gold twice? Not really. Most dev teams that have released a great game in the past have not done so well on their second release. WAR is a good example. DAoC? Loved it. WAR? Not so much.

... 


 

Starcraft, Diablo2, Warcraft2 and 3. Gold enough ????

You can't possibly compare FunCom and Mythic with Blizzard.

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Is there a Blizz dud in the future? Of course it can: I even think that dud will be Diablo 3.

SC2, I could live with: an RTS game with skyrocketing hype and history.

But I can find everything in Wow what I can find in D3 (and then add 100 times more) in a ..... 2D/3D vertical scrolling eagle view.

Terrible idea to go with the old engine for Diablo3.

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But I think the best hit Blizzard will have is the other secret mmorgp project. ------> That with the Wow engine on  the new XBox to be launched next year. (console spec designed to play rts/mmo's). Short playing sessions and instances: typical product for the console market with the fast fluid responsive engine of Wow. Who knows something like a set of BG's and instances linked within the Wow history settings. But all packaged into very short playing sessions of 10 to 15 minutes.

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The above mentioned NEW IP MMO setting would appeal more to the hardcore and wil go back to the roots of mmorpg's on PC's. Expect a SF game WITH the possibility to leave your cockpit chairs... :))

But the new milking cow will be the console "mmo" based on the fluid cartoonish Wow engine. That marriage between Microsoft and Blizzard will drop golden eggs in revenus...

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That way Blizzard will cover an intro MMO on consoles, a medium MMORPG with Wow expansions and a hi end tech mmo with hardcore options. SC2 is their rts goal and while D3 could be the hack/slash market, I think that this last one will be the only commercial dud in the line.

All very logical when you have 300 million $ US every ... 3 months to develop that quality.

 

 

 

  Drughi

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Joined: 6/17/05
Posts: 117

5/15/09 4:11:24 AM#25

is going to be a sci-fi related game for sure

 

so they will try to control both, fantasy and sci-fi  they will compete with swtor

 

blizz is a great marketing company

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