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General Discussion  » Can I Suggest Paragus1 Gets Removed From The "Spotlight Blogs"?

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  Vince_G

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5/14/09 11:16:19 AM#76

um.. It a blog.. if you don't like it just don't read it. probelm solved

  kalistar

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Posts: 46

5/14/09 11:16:42 AM#77

 well it sounds like there is only one clear path here. If you do not like the emphasis being placed on one blogger then bury it. If you think paragus's blog is the next best thing to sliced bread then bump it. That seems to be the only way to make an impression to the admins. Speak with numbers and not words.

 

 

I looked over his blogs and there is never more then 40 people rating them with 2/3 of them being for it. why would the admins even listen when they only have 40 peoples opinions to listen to. So seriously lets test the words of the admins of this site and get out there , vote. Finally we will have a clear consensus of what is acceptable to us as a community

  andmiller

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Y am I posting here??

5/14/09 11:19:23 AM#78
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by mrw0lf

So we've run out of things about the game that are considered troll worthy and have now moved onto people who post PERSONAL BLOGS about the game.

How fucking sad must your life actually be. Wait!!!! I've found an alternative, DON'T READ IT. After 2 seconds of doing so it's obvious to a lobotomised platypus that his blog is for people who are interested in ACTUALLY PLAYING the game not bashing on it.


 

It's not a personal blog anymore when mmorpg.com uses it as a featurette or whatever they want to call it. In other words, instead of leaving his blog alongside the many other personal blogs for people to sift through, they put it on the front page with a nice title and description along with the other news. So if this blogger is going to get special attention over other bloggers, he should at least be held to a journalist standard, which is to seek out the truth and report on the good AND the bad.

It seems you don't know the difference between a review and a blog.


 

Hey, I've read the entire thread, including all your venom filled posts. Search my post history and you'll see I don't post in the DF forums. I'm talking about fairness here. I've read a couple of his blogs and they were good, but that's not the point. The point is everything on the front page gets special attention by the community, because it's within easy reach. I love it that the news, featurettes, reviews, and so on are on the front page, because I can easily access them. What I find weird is that a blog, and yes I know what a blog is, is among the headlines. In my opinon, blogs should stay with other blogs. Once a blog is elevated into headlines on a regular basis, it becomes official in the communities eyes, whether or not it is in fact official.

To sum it up, I could care less about Darkfall, the community, its bloggers, or whatever. I'm addressing the issue of a blogger getting special attention on the front page on a regular basis, which by reader standards, makes Paragus Rants an official piece, whether or not it in fact official. All the admins have to do is remove his blog from the front page and the special little title that goes with it, and put it back among the other blogs. That, or hold Paragus to a journalistic standard of unbiasness. The fact is that Paragus Rants is a well written blog, but what is perceived as being fact is Paragus Rants is an ongoing review of Darkfall, and a rather biased one at that. What's fact and what's perceived as fact doesn't really matter to the masses, because the masses will almost always go with what is perceived to be facts.

 

LOL....you say you understand what a blog is, then you say:  "That, or hold Paragus to a journalistic standard of unbiasness. "

A blog is by definition an opinion.  If it is being held to the standard you say, then it is BY DEFINITION, not a blog.  There is no requirement anywhere in the world for a blog to contain "factual, unbiased information". 

How about a little common sense and reading comprehension? 

 

  Izure

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5/14/09 11:23:37 AM#79
Originally posted by andmiller
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by mrw0lf

So we've run out of things about the game that are considered troll worthy and have now moved onto people who post PERSONAL BLOGS about the game.

How fucking sad must your life actually be. Wait!!!! I've found an alternative, DON'T READ IT. After 2 seconds of doing so it's obvious to a lobotomised platypus that his blog is for people who are interested in ACTUALLY PLAYING the game not bashing on it.


 

It's not a personal blog anymore when mmorpg.com uses it as a featurette or whatever they want to call it. In other words, instead of leaving his blog alongside the many other personal blogs for people to sift through, they put it on the front page with a nice title and description along with the other news. So if this blogger is going to get special attention over other bloggers, he should at least be held to a journalist standard, which is to seek out the truth and report on the good AND the bad.

It seems you don't know the difference between a review and a blog.


 

Hey, I've read the entire thread, including all your venom filled posts. Search my post history and you'll see I don't post in the DF forums. I'm talking about fairness here. I've read a couple of his blogs and they were good, but that's not the point. The point is everything on the front page gets special attention by the community, because it's within easy reach. I love it that the news, featurettes, reviews, and so on are on the front page, because I can easily access them. What I find weird is that a blog, and yes I know what a blog is, is among the headlines. In my opinon, blogs should stay with other blogs. Once a blog is elevated into headlines on a regular basis, it becomes official in the communities eyes, whether or not it is in fact official.

To sum it up, I could care less about Darkfall, the community, its bloggers, or whatever. I'm addressing the issue of a blogger getting special attention on the front page on a regular basis, which by reader standards, makes Paragus Rants an official piece, whether or not it in fact official. All the admins have to do is remove his blog from the front page and the special little title that goes with it, and put it back among the other blogs. That, or hold Paragus to a journalistic standard of unbiasness. The fact is that Paragus Rants is a well written blog, but what is perceived as being fact is Paragus Rants is an ongoing review of Darkfall, and a rather biased one at that. What's fact and what's perceived as fact doesn't really matter to the masses, because the masses will almost always go with what is perceived to be facts.

 

LOL....you say you understand what a blog is, then you say:  "That, or hold Paragus to a journalistic standard of unbiasness. "

A blog is by definition an opinion.  If it is being held to the standard you say, then it is BY DEFINITION, not a blog.  There is no requirement anywhere in the world for a blog to contain "factual, unbiased information". 

How about a little common sense and reading comprehension? 

 

 

Is it legal to say common sense and reading comprehension on these forums?

 

I have a suggestion, make it so that only people who played, or have the game can type on this forums, most haters gone.

  brostyn

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5/14/09 11:24:43 AM#80

Yes, you may suggest anything you like. Doesn't mean its a good idea.

 

I think Paragus like DF a lot. Don't know what he sees in it, but more power to him. I think its noble of you to try to protect "the new players", but give it a rest. No one believes your out to save that innocent, little, future DF buyer. If someone is dumb enough to buy DF, then hopefully they will learn a lesson like I did a long time ago about MMOs(never buy a MMO without rave reviews, and even then it probably sucks). Or, they are sick and twisted(and like eating paint chips), and enjoy it.

  rutaq

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5/14/09 11:43:31 AM#81
Originally posted by Devour

He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.

I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.

TL;DR:
Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

 

 

Umm, what ? So you don't like Blogger's opinion so you want MMORPG to remove him from a list of "Spotlight Blogs" ?

OK first, the Interwebs are a big place and there are plenty of Blogs out there that hate DarkFall as much as you, so maybe you should go read them and be happy instead of focusing your hatred some Blogger that actually likes Darkfall.

Second, does MMORPG common consult with you about who they chose for their Bloggers ?

Third, Blogs by their very nature and definition are based on the writers opinion there is no requirements for the opinion be shared by some random person that complains on the MMORPG forums. Perhaps you are confused and thought that Bloggers can only write what you agree with.

Fourth, Maybe instead of complaining on the forums you should start your OWN Blog where you can feel free to complain about DarkFall and specifically the fankiddies like Paragus1.

 

 

 

 

LoL,  The level of entitlement of the forum trolls on MMOPRG is embarassing. 

  journey01

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5/14/09 12:03:11 PM#82

So, wait...   There's no dispute that this is a blog, right?  It's not like anyone looks at the title "Spolight Blogs" and thinks that they are something other than blogs, right?  Does it matter then, whether it's positive or negative?  If it's well written, why wouldn't they spotlight it?

 

Wouldn't it be "special" or discriminatory treatment, if the policy of the site is to highlight well written blogs, but Paragus isn't allowed to be highlighted no matter how well written because it's somewhat positive towards DF?

  DarkPony

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5/14/09 12:13:56 PM#83
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by mrw0lf

So we've run out of things about the game that are considered troll worthy and have now moved onto people who post PERSONAL BLOGS about the game.

How fucking sad must your life actually be. Wait!!!! I've found an alternative, DON'T READ IT. After 2 seconds of doing so it's obvious to a lobotomised platypus that his blog is for people who are interested in ACTUALLY PLAYING the game not bashing on it.


 

It's not a personal blog anymore when mmorpg.com uses it as a featurette or whatever they want to call it. In other words, instead of leaving his blog alongside the many other personal blogs for people to sift through, they put it on the front page with a nice title and description along with the other news. So if this blogger is going to get special attention over other bloggers, he should at least be held to a journalist standard, which is to seek out the truth and report on the good AND the bad.

It seems you don't know the difference between a review and a blog.


 

Hey, I've read the entire thread, including all your venom filled posts. Search my post history and you'll see I don't post in the DF forums. I'm talking about fairness here. I've read a couple of his blogs and they were good, but that's not the point. The point is everything on the front page gets special attention by the community, because it's within easy reach. I love it that the news, featurettes, reviews, and so on are on the front page, because I can easily access them. What I find weird is that a blog, and yes I know what a blog is, is among the headlines. In my opinon, blogs should stay with other blogs. Once a blog is elevated into headlines on a regular basis, it becomes official in the communities eyes, whether or not it is in fact official.

To sum it up, I could care less about Darkfall, the community, its bloggers, or whatever. I'm addressing the issue of a blogger getting special attention on the front page on a regular basis, which by reader standards, makes Paragus Rants an official piece, whether or not it in fact official. All the admins have to do is remove his blog from the front page and the special little title that goes with it, and put it back among the other blogs. That, or hold Paragus to a journalistic standard of unbiasness. The fact is that Paragus Rants is a well written blog, but what is perceived as being fact is Paragus Rants is an ongoing review of Darkfall, and a rather biased one at that. What's fact and what's perceived as fact doesn't really matter to the masses, because the masses will almost always go with what is perceived to be facts.

Your whole case seems to rely on the premise that Paragus' blog is 'rather biased' and by that accusation, which you don't support with facts or quotes, you state that it shouldn't be so prominently featured on the front page.

Apart from the fact that 'bias', like others also clarified, is inherent to blogs and their personal character, (also in this case, since it is written by a player of the game), you fail to acknowledge the criteria which are set up by this site for highlighted blogs. The admin already summed them up quite nicely in this thread and Paragus' contribution fully qualifies as far as I can tell.

Also it should be clear to all who have read any of his entries that his contributions are very factual; he did great work in describing game features for us non players, and he's doing a hell of a job in documenting the political meta game on DF's first server.

Even for sideliners like me it offers an interesting read most of the time which I can't say of many other blogs concerning games I don't play. I think the guy is on a roll in becoming a great gaming journalist / columnist, personally and I think it is great that mmorpg.com gives him the opportunity to do so. He clearly deserved the spot in my eyes and I truly wish there was a blogger as precise and commited like him for every other game out there.

Finally, even when highlighted on the frontpage, every appearance of an entry has the word 'blog' added to it. Saying that it shouldn't be there among the news is actually saying that you don't trust readers to understand what 'blog' means. And I think people do. By far the most of them, that is.
 

 

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  TheHavok

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5/14/09 12:14:18 PM#84

Op has no idea what he is talking about. 

Paragus writes with passion and integrity that should be an example to anybody reviewing a video game.

Op, try and get off the bandwagon of hate towards darkfall, your making yourself look like an idiot.

P.S. Paragus also uses spell check, something the OP should look into.

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  maskedweasel

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5/14/09 1:12:22 PM#85

I don't think a number of you realize what constitutes any type of news or informational site.  Take MSNs homepage for example..  a very prominent news site.  They have a number of articles.. some even linking to blogs, you tube videos, or any other type of user created content, not because of what the content is as much as how many hits it gets... or how interesting the articles are.

Another good example is the escapist . Zero punctuation with Yahtzee, he's almost always pessimistic in his game reviews.. but he does good work and therefore we watch his reviews.  I don't have to take them seriously, and I would never hold his opinion as a basis for whether I will enjoy a game or not.....  but its entertaining.

That being said, Paragus gets headlined because his articles are fun to read, exciting, and well written.  Its also over a very controversial topic on these forums which automatically gives it a popularity boost.  

If you want to stop Paragus from being headlined, don't read his blog to write "troll posts" or whatever fanboys call them nowadays.  Theres plenty of other articles that can draw your attention I'm sure. 

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  Kyleran

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5/14/09 1:37:23 PM#86

I find most blogs worthless opinion pieces stuck in a bad interface on this site so I rarely frequent them.

Paragus1's blogs are one of the few I bother to ever try and read, and never am disappointed with the detailed information provided on the more advanced conntent.

I'm not a DF fan, or hater really, (more of a critic I suppose) and I appreciate good sources of info.

Is he biased, or chosing not to focus on negative info? Sure, but hey, there's no shortage of negative press and I don't mind if he doesn't spend a lot of time on it.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:42:18 PM#87
Originally posted by egotrip

"Opinions are like a$$holes , everyone's got one" ...........and i stand by it. The fact that i might not agree with or not like many things Paragus is currently writting and will write in his blogs doesn't mean that he shouldn't be writting them. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion me, you and even Paragus strange as it might seem to you, especially over the internet which IMO is the last place in this world where someone can speak his mind freely........

Yep, and your a$$hole opinon is just as valid as my a$$hole opinion.

  Loke666

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5/14/09 1:43:04 PM#88
Originally posted by daarco

But why follow and read everything about a game you are not interested in? Write your own blogs instead of telling others to stop with thiers!

 

I agree. All blogs are biased one way or another. Censorship is never a good idea.

If the guy breaks mmorpgs rules then he should be banned, if not I don't see any problem and the OP can make his own blog.

If someone buy a game based only on a blog they have themselves to blame if it isnt what they thought it would be anyways.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:43:57 PM#89
Originally posted by gruminator

i dont have a problem with his blog.

but this thread accualy raises a interesting question for me.

if a person with a negative view on darkfall took his/her time to write a blog about it (not just pure hate, but good and sound critic)

would they get the same treatment as him?

Not a chance.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:44:07 PM#90
Originally posted by Devour

He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.

I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.

TL;DR:
Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

So would  MMORPG be Brolly if this happened?

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  risenbones

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5/14/09 1:47:24 PM#91

I think the problem is his blogs are being called articles and blogs and as such they are being put in places that over expose his writings.

So what are they?  If they are blogs stop listing them as articles if they are articles stop calling them blogs pick one and stick it there so the rest of us don't have to continue watching what is quickly becoming a boring train wreck.  Surely there are more important things to talk about than a game a majority can't evan buy let alone play.

Nothing against Paragus1 and his writings they are usually well written and informative and I enjoy reading them for the most part evan if they gloss over some aspects of the game his writing about which generally get covered anyway by different people.

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  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:47:42 PM#92
Originally posted by journey01

So, wait...   There's no dispute that this is a blog, right?  It's not like anyone looks at the title "Spolight Blogs" and thinks that they are something other than blogs, right?  Does it matter then, whether it's positive or negative?  If it's well written, why wouldn't they spotlight it?

 

Wouldn't it be "special" or discriminatory treatment, if the policy of the site is to highlight well written blogs, but Paragus isn't allowed to be highlighted no matter how well written because it's somewhat positive towards DF?

No, I think it's more about his blog being CONSISTANTLY highlighted.

Look at the blogs on this site -- how many of them do you regularly see in that list? Many of those far better in the "well-written" department.

  Eveeldour

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5/14/09 1:49:33 PM#93
Originally posted by Devour

He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.

I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.

TL;DR:
Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.


I think he does a brilliant job, infact I do not even play DF and I still read them. However if he was to take an Official role I think they would attempt to limit him. just my 2 cents.


  Ginfress02

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5/14/09 1:49:59 PM#94

It's quick obvious that Paragus get's paid by Tasos to write reviews about darkfail. It's also quite obvious mmorpg.com is afraid of the fanatical darkfail fanboys attacking this site for removing something related to darkfail.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:54:06 PM#95
Originally posted by summitus 

I just like to see fairness inthe way everyone is treated , I'm sure alot of members have had posts removed for far less than this and yet you seem to let this individual attack and flame peoples posts with total impunity ?

I also thought posting excessive negative comments in threads was against the rules ?. Take a look at the OP 's post history .

He's even said openly that nobody else know what trolling is except himself and that included yourselves .

As was said, it sounds like you're looking for a moderator, not a site admin or managing editor.

  User Deleted
5/14/09 1:55:16 PM#96
Originally posted by Ginfress02

It's also quite obvious mmorpg.com is afraid of the fanatical darkfail fanboys attacking this site for removing something related to darkfail.

Plus they already have a site where they can whack-off their well-endowed DFO fanboy-ism without too much opposition. Seems like a lot of arguing for very little return on MMORPG.com. No one is changing anyone else's mind about the game.

  DarkPony

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5/14/09 1:58:12 PM#97
Originally posted by Ginfress02

It's quick obvious that Paragus get's paid by Tasos to write reviews about darkfail. It's also quite obvious mmorpg.com is afraid of the fanatical darkfail fanboys attacking this site for removing something related to darkfail.

 

"It's quick obvious that Ginfress02 get's paid by other game developers to write negative posts about Darkfall. It's also quite obvious mmorpg.com is afraid of the fanatical Darkfall haters attacking this site for adding something related to Darkfall" (sic)

Wow, so easy to throw unfounded accusations around without having to actually prove anything.

Even a dumb pony like me can do it!

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  Halpot

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5/14/09 1:59:56 PM#98

Please stay on topic and avoid breaking the Rules of Conduct.

  journey01

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5/14/09 2:32:45 PM#99
Originally posted by cfurlin
Originally posted by journey01

So, wait...   There's no dispute that this is a blog, right?  It's not like anyone looks at the title "Spolight Blogs" and thinks that they are something other than blogs, right?  Does it matter then, whether it's positive or negative?  If it's well written, why wouldn't they spotlight it?

 

Wouldn't it be "special" or discriminatory treatment, if the policy of the site is to highlight well written blogs, but Paragus isn't allowed to be highlighted no matter how well written because it's somewhat positive towards DF?

No, I think it's more about his blog being CONSISTANTLY highlighted.

Look at the blogs on this site -- how many of them do you regularly see in that list? Many of those far better in the "well-written" department.

 

Yes, but that's a decision made by the editors of the site about which blogs they felt were well written enough to be highlighted.  You're not suggesting that the entire mmorpg site is some kind of paid shill that supports DF are you?

 

Otherwise, it's fair to assume that the selection process itself follows an objective standard, which the OP is asking mmorpg to change because he dislikes the subject matter.

  Panossian

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5/14/09 2:47:13 PM#100
Originally posted by Devour

He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.

I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.

TL;DR:
Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

Anyone who has followed the Paragus Rants blog knows he is nothing like what you describe which only leads me to think you have some sort of grudge against either him or Darkfall. {mod edit}

 

 

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