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Nirvy

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Posts: 36

 
5/05/09 6:23:21 PM#1

Gamerankings say it is.

It surely cannot be this bad, i have been waiting forever to get a copy of this. Is the reviewer lieing or it this accurate?

Devour

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Posts: 863

5/05/09 6:27:56 PM#2

Benthon

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Posts: 318

I hate Jeff Kaplan, alot. Trust me.

5/05/09 6:28:50 PM#3

Worst MMO ever. Worst game, there is a lot more competition.

Old school MMORPG Player. WTB
DAoC Origins, Classic EQ Project...

What the Darkfall Website and the fanboi's won't tell you about Darkfall:
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=164338

Nirvy

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Joined: 1/11/04
Posts: 36

 
5/05/09 6:52:16 PM#4

Damn lol.

 

Maybe all this advertising will get them enough subs to open more than one server. If they save they're pennies for long enough they might be able to afford it.

Evasia

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Posts: 1710

5/05/09 8:11:45 PM#5

Its a great game im playing it for 6 weeks now.

But if you can't take full loot been killed alot and can't handle the high learning curve then this game ain't for you:)

summitus

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Posts: 930

5/05/09 8:39:25 PM#6
Originally posted by Nirvy

Gamerankings say it is.

It surely cannot be this bad, i have been waiting forever to get a copy of this. Is the reviewer lieing or it this accurate?


 

The review is Bullshit , I'm playin and lovin it as are most of the people playin it and I 'm normally a Lotro player so go figure.

tollmart

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Joined: 9/04/04
Posts: 49

5/05/09 8:43:54 PM#7

Just the facts:

Darkfall scores a 2 out of a possible 10. Reviewers hardly played the game based on the server logs.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/da...-online-review

Eurogamer’s MMO Editor came to me over a month ago and asked for 2 accounts to review Darkfall which they promptly received. Today, more than a month later they came out with their long awaited review and we REALLY flunked it would seem. Darkfall got 2/10.

2/10 according to the Eurogamer scoring policy means: Avoid at all costs etc. You can find the scoring policy here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/scoring_policy.php

Scroll down to 2 and see how much this guy hated Darkfall and how strongly Eurogamer prompts everyone to avoid it at all costs.

The MMO editor warned me personally about the bad review on the way, and I asked him to give us some consideration and get another reviewer on the case since 2/10 is the lowest review they’ve ever given, and Darkfall’s reviews so far have been mostly good ones. It sounded very unfair to me and I appealed its publication. Not even the harshest critics of the game or the trolls on various forums would give it that low a score. This is a niche game we explained and perhaps the reviewer’s play-style was completely different and he was maybe the wrong kind of person to review the game. Darkfall isn’t for everyone after all, and having someone who can’t handle this kind of game write the review would be unfair both to the game and to Eurogamer readers. You can’t use the same tool for every job. Eurogamer’s MMO editor refused and basically said that he carefully selected a reviewer that would be fair to the game and that he would stand by the review. Then he posted the review.

When we read the hostile review by Ed Zitron, one thing became apparent: he had not played the game at all. Eurogamer readers and Darkfall players are posting bullet lists of factual errors in the story. The reviewer hadn't even figured out the very basics of the game before he wrote about it. We checked the logs for the 2 accounts we gave Eurogamer and we found that one of them had around 3 minutes playtime, and the other had less than 2 hours spread out in 13 sessions. Most of these 2 hours were spent in the character creator since during almost every one of the logins the reviewer spent the time creating a new character. The rest of the time was apparently spent taking the low-res screenshots that accompanied the article. At no point did this reviewer spend more than a few minutes online at a time.

Darkfall is the largest MMORPG game of its kind and this guy spent a few minutes playing(?) before he tore it apart. How can someone do that responsibly? Ed Zitron didn’t even give Darkfall a chance.

The entire review is opinionated and hostile; it attacks the game, the creators and the company at every chance. The creators and developers of Darkfall, as well as the Darkfall community through its reaction, consider this review suspect and question the motives behind its publication. We can take a bad review, but not like this. Even the worst reviews that we’ve received commend our efforts and speak of the potential of Darkfall. The majority of our players love the game. This review might keep new players from ever trying a game they would enjoy.

We sent the play-time information to Eurogamer and asked them to take down the article as it is damaging our game’s reputation but also Eurogamer’s reputation. We asked to get an unbiased reviewer on the case who will actually play the game before writing about it. They said that taking it down now would be more damaging to their reputation than if they left it up. After our reaction to publicize the play history of their reviewers to protect our game, they asked us to wait while they try to confirm what we already knew from our logs. We’re afraid that waiting any longer is unacceptable to us, because this review was designed to drive people away from our game and allowing it to remain without any kind of reaction is out of the question. Out of professional courtesy we’ve waited 5 hours longer than we said we would before posting this.

An update: Eurogamer got back to us via their editor and said that their reviewer is a contributing writer rather than a staff writer, that he claims to have spent at least 9 hours playing the game and they will stand by their publication. We wrote back that this is a lie and that our server logs(which they already have) show the playtime down to the second and they are at their disposal. They offered to re-review the game and see if the second reviewer has a different opinion than the first one. We wrote back that it might be hard to find someone to confirm the first review, especially if they actually play the game.
 

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5/05/09 8:49:37 PM#8

Right now Darkfall imo is the worst MMO on the market right now. This can change if Adventuine cleans it self up by getting more servers up, gets better customer service, community starts policing itself, gets ahold of the massive cheating, and fires Tasos. The one thing that Adventurine is doing right is coming out with updates.

This game has sooooo much potential, just the wrong ppl running it.

tcosaddict

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5/05/09 8:53:54 PM#9

If what Tasos said was true, the reviewer from Eruogamer, the only review out, logged in for less than 2 hours, spread out across 13 play sessions, most of which time was spent creating new characters.  I don't know who to believe on the matter as the reviewer claims to have spent over 9 hours in game and Tasos has a history of lying.  I'd lean more in favor of Tasos at this point though as the review was incredibly biased, even if the reviewer truly had played the game for 9 hours.  What  is 9 hours anyway?  Can you give a game a fair review based off only 9 hours?  These are mmos, not a single player campaign.  You can't see anything in 9 hours.  If he only played 2 like Tasos claims, that's even less.  It will take you that long to get comfortable with the UI.  He says in the review that it takes 5-10 seconds to switch weapons if an opponent runs in, wtf?  I've seen it done pretty fast in several videos.  Everything the reviewer said was completely opinionated, which is to be expected - it is his impression afterall.  To say it's fair is something else entirely. 

He seems to have gone into the trial with a decision already in mind.  He even says himself how a job is a job and he only played because he had to.  I disagree with a lot of what he said and I haven't even played the game.  The graphics are a little dated but most definitely not worse than EQ1.  He mentions WoW and even Warhammer as games to be aimed for - I disagree completely.  Darkfall did something different and the reviewer doesn't seem to like that.  He wants another game just like WoW from the sounds of it.  I think most of us can agree that a little diversity is a good thing.  I'm not knocking WoW, here.  Honestly, the UI in WoW is arguably the best out there.  Blizzard definitely knows what they're doing, but if something isn't as instantly user-friendly as that it doesn't make it terrible.  Eve's controls take a little adjusting to, they're far from terrible.

Anyway, before I ramble anymore - that rating is based off only one review that is arguably pure bullshit.  The game isn't perfect, or even close, but I think the average person would hover more in the 6/10 area to be honest.  2/10 is an insult and an unwarranted one at that.  I'm starting to see what the fanboys were talking about with people going back to WoW.  Reading that review it's clear the reviewer is quite the fan of it.  Maybe he SHOULD go back to WoW. 

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The Chronicles of Spellborn
Darkfall
Mortal Online
Aion

Evasia

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5/05/09 8:56:04 PM#10
Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Right now Darkfall imo is the worst MMO on the market right now. This can change if Adventuine cleans it self up by getting more servers up, gets better customer service, community starts policing itself, gets ahold of the massive cheating, and fires Tasos. The one thing that Adventurine is doing right is coming out with updates.

This game has sooooo much potential, just the wrong ppl running it.


 

It sure needs alot of work but i dont agree about wrong people running it they playing it smart, they first make sure its all smoothen out and game is far more polished then it launched and they still keep improving it.

A new server now is not wise they banning players that cheat and they keep doing it and many have fun playing this game.

Many mmorpgs had alot of problems in beginning Darkfall is no exception.

I say in few months it will be a great game.

Cya ingame :)

Dedthom

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Joined: 5/21/04
Posts: 448

I find the narrowness of your opinion refreshing.

5/05/09 8:59:19 PM#11

Yes little Johnny, Darkfall is the worst game ever.

And you see those walls of words of above? This is what the fanbois hide behind so no one can see them cry.

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Fariic

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5/05/09 9:06:14 PM#12

It's a horrible game.

I played for about 2 months now.

Worst MMO I've ever played.
Worst FPS i've ever played.
Worst community I've ever seen in a game.

Horrible UI.
Empty world.
Shallow gameplay.
Depthless skill system.

Not the worst game.
Def. the worst MMO.

SoE Freerealms has more depth, content, and freedom then DFO does.

 

WSIMike

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5/05/09 9:35:59 PM#13

Man, I thought Mark Jacobs was a bit out of line with some his reactions in the past. Tasos has left him in the dust.

I must say it's the first time I've seen someone from a game company go so far as to scour server logs to see how long a reviewer played as a way to invalidate their review. Though Tasos may well have a valid argument here, his reaction comes across as a bit hysterical and desperate.

It makes me wonder if this is how he's going to react to every negative review of DF that may come down the pike? 

Honestly, based on his behavior in the past to any criticism of the game, it wouldn't surprise me if he did. He goes off like a typical forum fanboy.

I mean, at some point, if the negative reviews come in, he's gonna have to suck it up like every other developer out there does, take it on the chin and work on improving the game. Seems to me that would be the "hardcore" thing to do.

I do have a question about one statement he made, though...

"Darkfall is the largest MMORPG game of its kind"

Okay... since he hasn't that I know of... can someone please clarify exactly what he means by "of its kind"? Does he mean a FPS-style PvP MMO? If so, okay, I can see that.

If he means in terms of a sandbox-style FFA PvP MMO? Then he's been drinking way too much of his own kool-aid, or is just putting out more of his typical BS.

Anyway.. can someone who actually *knows* and/or can cite a reference, please clarify that for me? I don't wanna put words in the guy's mouth.

 


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APEist

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5/05/09 10:28:25 PM#14

 /sigh

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Wharg0ul

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Joined: 11/21/03
Posts: 2278

Clench all you want, it's still going in.

5/05/09 10:59:46 PM#15
Originally posted by Fariic

It's a horrible game.

I played for about 2 months now.

Worst MMO I've ever played.
Worst FPS i've ever played.
Worst community I've ever seen in a game.

Horrible UI.
Empty world.
Shallow gameplay.
Depthless skill system.

Not the worst game.
Def. the worst MMO.

SoE Freerealms has more depth, content, and freedom then DFO does.

 


 

We know how you feel...you make sure to pollute every thread in this forum with your negativity. We get it already.

Darkfall is the BEST MMO of it's KIND. Simple as that. There is not other MMORPG that even attempts to do what Darkfall does...it's unique, and therefore cannot be compared to what we've come to "expect" from an MMORPG.

Benthon

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Joined: 1/11/07
Posts: 318

I hate Jeff Kaplan, alot. Trust me.

5/05/09 11:04:02 PM#16
Originally posted by Wharg0ul


 

We know how you feel...you make sure to pollute every thread in this forum with your negativity. We get it already.

Darkfall is the BEST MMO of it's KIND. Simple as that. There is not other MMORPG that even attempts to do what Darkfall does...it's unique, and therefore cannot be compared to what we've come to "expect" from an MMORPG.


 

We know how you feel...you make sure to pollute every thread in this forum with your fanboism. We get it already.

Darkfall is the WORST MMO of it's KIND. Simple as that. There are many other MMORPG's that do what Darkfall does plsu some... it's not unique, and therefore cannot even compare to what we've come to expect from an MMORPG.

Old school MMORPG Player. WTB
DAoC Origins, Classic EQ Project...

What the Darkfall Website and the fanboi's won't tell you about Darkfall:
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=164338

Xemous

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Joined: 7/31/08
Posts: 228

5/06/09 12:49:40 AM#17

I haven't had this much fun in a MMO in a long time.  Its what you look for in a mmo that determines whether you will like DF.  Its not easy at all, some people like it this way.

Seytan

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Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 553

5/06/09 1:07:23 AM#18
Originally posted by Dedthom

Yes little Johnny, Darkfall is the worst game ever.

And you see those walls of words of above? This is what the fanbois hide behind so no one can see them cry.


 

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL..................the pain.....

User Deleted
5/06/09 1:07:27 AM#19
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Right now Darkfall imo is the worst MMO on the market right now. This can change if Adventuine cleans it self up by getting more servers up, gets better customer service, community starts policing itself, gets ahold of the massive cheating, and fires Tasos. The one thing that Adventurine is doing right is coming out with updates.

This game has sooooo much potential, just the wrong ppl running it.


 

It sure needs alot of work but i dont agree about wrong people running it they playing it smart, they first make sure its all smoothen out and game is far more polished then it launched and they still keep improving it.

A new server now is not wise they banning players that cheat and they keep doing it and many have fun playing this game.

Many mmorpgs had alot of problems in beginning Darkfall is no exception.

I say in few months it will be a great game.

Cya ingame :)

It sure needs a lot of work but I do not believe Tasos and his narrowed mindset can pull it thru.  Enough said.
 

A new server now is not wise, because they cannot do it.  Period.  Not that they have a choice.  The other excuses are just excuses.

Many mmorpgs had a lot of problems, but few as far fetched as DFO, and even so many died.  DF is no exception.

I say in a few months, Tasos will be the president of Greece and then head of United Nations.  Oh I forgot, it took Tasos 8 years to get here, maybe Tasos will be president of Greece when Greeks emigrate en masse to the next galaxy.

Cya back here.  You won't be in DF long, it does not cut it.  The fun of DF is here.

Wharg0ul

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Joined: 11/21/03
Posts: 2278

Clench all you want, it's still going in.

5/06/09 1:09:45 AM#20
Originally posted by Benthon
Originally posted by Wharg0ul


 

We know how you feel...you make sure to pollute every thread in this forum with your negativity. We get it already.

Darkfall is the BEST MMO of it's KIND. Simple as that. There is not other MMORPG that even attempts to do what Darkfall does...it's unique, and therefore cannot be compared to what we've come to "expect" from an MMORPG.


 

We know how you feel...you make sure to pollute every thread in this forum with your fanboism. We get it already.

Darkfall is the WORST MMO of it's KIND. Simple as that. There are many other MMORPG's that do what Darkfall does plsu some... it's not unique, and therefore cannot even compare to what we've come to expect from an MMORPG.


 

so, what you're basically saying is "I know you are, but what am I?"

What a fantastic display of maturity.

jy88902

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Joined: 5/06/08
Posts: 307

5/06/09 2:25:51 AM#21

Attempting to publicly discredit reviewers with claims of server log evidence is the most pathetic and bush league thing a mmo developer can do, bar none.

 

Just as you think Aventurine can't possibly get more ridiculous, they outdo themselves immediately.

TheHavok

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Posts: 1185

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5/06/09 2:31:29 AM#22
Originally posted by jy88902

Attempting to publicly discredit reviewers with claims of server log evidence is the most pathetic and bush league thing a mmo developer can do, bar none.

 

Just as you think Aventurine can't possibly get more ridiculous, they outdo themselves immediately.

 

How is Aventurine at fault?  They called out a shitty reviewer and it turns out that the reviewer barely gave the game the time of day.  The reviewer claims to have played 9 hours, AV's logs showed only 2 hours played time.  Would YOU trust a review for an mmorpg if you found out the reviewer only played a fraction of the game?

jy88902

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Posts: 307

5/06/09 2:36:44 AM#23
Originally posted by TheHavok
Originally posted by jy88902

Attempting to publicly discredit reviewers with claims of server log evidence is the most pathetic and bush league thing a mmo developer can do, bar none.

 

Just as you think Aventurine can't possibly get more ridiculous, they outdo themselves immediately.

 

How is Aventurine at fault?  They called out a shitty reviewer and it turns out that the reviewer barely gave the game the time of day.  The reviewer claims to have played 9 hours, AV's logs showed only 2 hours played time.  Would YOU trust a review for an mmorpg if you found out the reviewer only played a fraction of the game?


 

Kneejerk reactions to a bad review shows a total lack of confidence they have in their own pile of shit.

 

Citing evidence they know they'll never have to prove is just plain low and pathetic.

 

Get it now?

xiukwai

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Joined: 7/10/07
Posts: 18

5/06/09 2:49:20 AM#24

(Mod Edit)

Runescape is better then this game     

HAHAHA

 

 

srsly

User Deleted
5/06/09 2:53:37 AM#25
Originally posted by TheHavok
Originally posted by jy88902

Attempting to publicly discredit reviewers with claims of server log evidence is the most pathetic and bush league thing a mmo developer can do, bar none.

 

Just as you think Aventurine can't possibly get more ridiculous, they outdo themselves immediately.

 

How is Aventurine at fault?  They called out a shitty reviewer and it turns out that the reviewer barely gave the game the time of day.  The reviewer claims to have played 9 hours, AV's logs showed only 2 hours played time.  Would YOU trust a review for an mmorpg if you found out the reviewer only played a fraction of the game?


 

Instead of providing information that can counter the criticism of the reviewer or show how a product is better than the reviewer thinks, AV tried to smear the name of the reviewer.  And thru evidence they can fake, and no one can counter.

So a reviewer comes to take a look at your new car, he does not appreciate the way the car handles.  As a designer of the car, you can show how the car is actually superior, despite being a little different.  Now instead of providing positive information, you start criticising the reviewer, saying he comes wearing a sports shoes instead of tuxedo.

What does that prove?  AV has nothing positive to talk about the game, so the only thing left is to cry out loud.  Actually, if Tasos has nothing positive to say, he can simply shut up.  Its not that hard to stand like a man and take it.  Tasos cannot.

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