Originally posted by uoplayer123

I'm still waiting to see if Mythic will have any change on UO or are they holding on to it till WAR is released?  , If Mythic gives UO the time of day and adecent budget I think they could make UO alot more interesting and maybe a nice little shot at a comeback.

After KR, I'm sure EA has now completely given up on trying to force the UO peg into the EQ hole.  After completely destroying UO, they will let it die off - it would have already if it were not for the die-hard fans.  Now EA is focusing on making a WoW clone, I'm sure that will fail too.

i hate EA

MMO gamers have grown to hate EA in general

i will never gonna play this game .....7 days....and is too noobish game....

UO should always be referred to Pre:UO-R or just UO

Those that played UO-R know the greatness of it. Nearly any MMO after that was a pathetic attempt at the genre. After UO-R EA slowly killed what many consider one of the greatest games of all time(nevermind MMO). EA does suck and the only way i will give them props is there Publishing type programs with ID, VALVE, etc etc.

UO IS DEAD - LONG LIVE UO-R

p.s. UO always had room for improvement... problem was once EA took over they drove it into the ground rather then improving it... it never was the perfect game... just the best ;)

as soon as EA aquired this game it died..look at the type of people they have working on it, no wonder its dead and no one would ever want to go back.

other games cannot be compared to UO. UO is original.

11 frickin years ago UO got me hooked on MMO's..........no game has ever came close to the emotions UO could stir in me...trammel ruined UO for me.....I think MMO's today are not for me even tho I keep looking

Originally posted by virox69

11 frickin years ago UO got me hooked on MMO's..........no game has ever came close to the emotions UO could stir in me...trammel ruined UO for me.....I think MMO's today are not for me even tho I keep looking

No other  game has ever made my hands shake like the first time my guild was at war, and we suddenly were attacked in Vesper!!!!

Old school Ultima Online was, and unfortunatly probably always will be the best game ever made. In my opinion, i could play anything, even really great games like starcraft or gears of war.. but they are crap compaired to the world that was Ultima Online, the freedom in an mmo was more immersive than anything since, no photorealistic graphics could ever bring the immersion that this game brought

i agree with the entire post...

and yes trammel did bring a short period of raised population, but it quickly went much lower, UO would have more subs now if it was like it used to be.. but it never will bbe and the free shards are just not the same..

Hopefully Darkfall is good, or I will quit MMO's permanently.. atleast I can have fun playing gears of war for as long as it lasts.. there is no fun in any new school MMO for me.. they are just boring and depressing

Yeah , in my opinion this game has pretty much always sucked ass. It's a lot like a washed up Diablo II that is only online. But i do respect what Ultima Online accomplished , and i can see what the poster is saying. Don't turn a medieval world into a futuristic non-believeable piece of shit, we have tabula rasa for that. HAHA

UO was the bomb in 1997

they fucked it all up by removing Dread lords because some EA shareholder got mother***ing pwned walking out of guardzone chopped in pieces and cooked , so that shareholder got mad turned UO after a year into a candy land where everyone is a happy colored weapon owning 7xgm chevalier castle owner 1 hit dragon killing single player character.

EA shareolder sure knows how to turn the best ever made game into rat poop.

Originally posted by sempiternal

These two EA developers, Stellerex and Sunsword, are responsible for two of the most ill-conceived expansions;

UO: Renaissance aka the consensual Trammel mirror

UO: Age of Shadows aka as the Item-Based gameplay expansion

Both of these expansions were drastic changes to the existing Ultima Online game and rules.

Only someone in a position of power, can abuse that power; such as a producer getting away with changing the rules in the middle of a game.

Bit of thread necromancy as i am bored while gate jumping around eve and this post jumped out (and doubt this forum will even notice as so inactive)

AoS was actually Evocare (Tom Chilton's) "Baby", he designed and developed it and left just before it was released, Sunsword just released it. He had pretty much no input into it and has said more than once off the record that he thought "it was the wrong direction to take UO"

And where did Chilton go? WoW, currently one of the 3 lead designers there, one responsible for (screwing up) pvp, amongst other things

Edit: Not saying Sunsword was a good developer either, far from it. But it's right to give the credit for age of sh*t to the correct people

I remember sunsword prancing around the globe advertising AOS...in a ninja suit.

If he's the producer, the ultimate responsiblity falls on him for approving it I would think...

sunsword was always in the forums talking about how great is was goign to be

...same thing he did with trammel.

 "In some ways, UO can feel very much like a new game because of the new skills, areas, and systems such as “item properties.” We don’t have specific plans to help ease the return of veteran players other than to focus on what makes UO fundamentally good." -Sunsword

http://www.corpnews.com/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1087496182,19790

llok at this guy in ninja suit...oh wait was that samurai empire? I get all those junk expansions mixed up...

  http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20041014/uoi01.jpg 

is the other guy evocare?

Originally posted by King-Kong

I remember sunsword prancing around the globe advertising AOS...in a ninja suit.

If he's the producer, the ultimate responsiblity falls on him for approving it I would think...

sunsword was always in the forums talking about how great is was goign to be

...same thing he did with trammel.

 

 "In some ways, UO can feel very much like a new game because of the new skills, areas, and systems such as “item properties.” We don’t have specific plans to help ease the return of veteran players other than to focus on what makes UO fundamentally good." -Sunsword

http://www.corpnews.com/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1087496182,19790

 

 

llok at this guy in ninja suit...oh wait was that samurai empire? I get all those junk expansions mixed up...

  http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20041014/uoi01.jpg 

is the other guy evocare?

 

As i said, sunsword released it but it was Evocare who "made it".

Basiclly Evo spent around 2 years in charge of it's development (lead designer), left for WoW just before it was released, sunsword got evocares job (if i remember correctly sunsword had not been working on UO for a long time) and was handed AoS to release as 'fait accompli'

As for him hyping it up for release, well what exactly could he have done?

Tell EA that the millions they had spent was on a load of garbage and that he wanted to go back to drawing board?

Or release it and tell everyone "this is a peice of shit but releaseing it anyway"

Either of those would have been good ways to lose one's job fast

And no that's not chilton, pic here of him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Chilton_(game_developer)

Originally posted by EndDream

Old school Ultima Online was, and unfortunatly probably always will be the best game ever made. In my opinion, i could play anything, even really great games like starcraft or gears of war.. but they are crap compaired to the world that was Ultima Online, the freedom in an mmo was more immersive than anything since, no photorealistic graphics could ever bring the immersion that this game brought

i agree with the entire post...

and yes trammel did bring a short period of raised population, but it quickly went much lower, UO would have more subs now if it was like it used to be.. but it never will bbe and the free shards are just not the same..

Hopefully Darkfall is good, or I will quit MMO's permanently.. atleast I can have fun playing gears of war for as long as it lasts.. there is no fun in any new school MMO for me.. they are just boring and depressing

Yep, it was all about the freedom.

Freedom is popular.

*never mind just realised replying to  a post over a year old..stupid board not going to last page when told to*

It doesn't matter, the information is still valid.

 Brilliant sir!!!

Original built a world, EA destroyed it.

Gospel!

Great, thanks for posting that image. What joke UO has become!

Tell you what: I am currently playing UO back on the official shards, after playing for years on Freeshard Defiance.

Even in its CURRENT state, UO still beats every other MMO I tried (which were quite a lot). That throws a very sad picture on todays MMO-market.