I think im like your friend Bio, i enjoy really WoW when i play for about 2 years. Than i quit out of boredom. In the meantime i tried quite a few games: VG, LOTR, EQ2, COH, AoC, War and a couple of F2P games..

All those games, except AoC i manage to get to around level 20 + -... Just to show you that WoW players do try other games and would love to have a new home.

Yet in the end i quit all of them, and come back to WoW. Play it, quit, sub again and quit again...

Why?

1) Compare other games combat animation with WoW

2) Compare other games graphic with WoW ( except LOTR, War and AoC)

3) Compare the seemless world with WoW (except VG, but its too empty)

etc etc etc...

Sub-consciously players will compare what they are playing and what they have play, and when the whole package can not compare to WoW, i just come back!

Bored? quit! Nothing to do? Sub back and level a new toon!

So untill a mmo that is at least on par with WoW, than i dont think i will ever really quit.

So hope you understand what i mean, and the best is to stop telling your friend to quit..

The next game i'll try will be Aion... /fingers cross

Originally posted by Ahiles

Originally posted by Flarinstar

What I dont understand is why you care so much? If he doesn't want to quit (which if he keeps playing he obviously doesn't want to) why are you trying to make him quit? Either join him or move on and play a different game by yourself. And no i don't play WoW.

 

This is alos what I am woundering.  Why the hell is this person trying to convince his so called friend to quit.  The other player obvioulsy dosnt want to quit, and despite what you may think or believe, he may actually like playing it, ever thought of that?  I know its a new concept for soem of you wow haters to comprehend, BUT HE MAY ACTUALLY FIND PLAYING A GAME FUN.  Maybe you should also try to find a game you like to play for fun instead of wasting your time trying to convince him and everyone else on wow sucks.

Hell like all games wow will eventually come to and end or a gradual slowdown.  But jesus dont try to push your ideas on another player already playing.  This is why most of you wow haters just jump from 1 game to another every 1 month, because you dont understand the concept that actually people enjoy playing wow.

Well playing mmo's with your friends makes them all that much better.  Perhaps he just wants to play something new with his buddy.  In fact a majority of what Ahiles wrote kinda bothers me.  I feel like its an attempt to shield wow players from the outside world. 

I reall love the fact that this is now a wow hater trying to destroy a precious wow players love for his game, despite he said his friend is bored of playing it.  Both these guys spent a lot of time playing wow, so i wouldnt call them haters.  Remember you shouldnt be married to your mmorpg, you should play with your friends, people are more important than your devotion to a particulair mmo.

Now that i think about it, the post i quoted are quite creepy, my god these are just games, if the op wants his friend to play a game with him whats the big deal, even if its online hearts over wow?  He was just pointing out how akward it is when his buddy says hes bored of a game but cant quit (addiction?)

I believe this horse has been dead for years boys and girls. Let whatever is left of it's pulverized corpse lie. Some people hate wow, alot of people like wow. Give it a rest.

Originally posted by cukimunga

This is why most of you wow haters just jump from 1 game to another every 1 month, because you dont understand the concept that actually people enjoy playing wow.

 

Huh?   So WoW haters jump from game to game because they can't get the concept that people find WoW fun?

That doesn't make and sense to me at all, I'd say WoW haters jump game to game because they don't find that game fun because everyone is going with the WoW game build.  LOTRO WAR both felt like I was playing WoW with different skin and I quit WoW to play something different.

 

The reason why most WoW haters hate WoW is because they made MMO's popular and now every game developer and their mom is trying to copy WoW in hope of achieving the same success they had.  To me older mmo's are so much better than most of the newer ones the problem is  I like eye candy as well and it kills me to play some of the older games.  Thats why I like Vanguard so much it has an old school feel to it but it has nice graphics.

Almost word for word what I would've written! Good job!

Originally posted by bleyzwun

Sorry, but I doubt your friend will switch games, no matter how bored of WoW he is.  I got 2 friends to try WAR and all they did was compare everything to WoW (the same 2 people who got me to try WoW when I was playing FFXI).  They didn't give the game a chance at all.  They didn't even get passed level 5 to decide the game sucks, and WoW is the best.  I have a cousin I got to play WoW.  He originally played EQ and refused to play WoW.  He finally decided to play with me and his bro 2 1/2 years later.  We tried to get him to try WAR, but he refuses cuz nothing is better than WoW. 

My point is, most WoW players are not willing to give other games a chance.  Also, I've decided not to invite friends to MMOs.  Either they're bitching about how it isn't WoW, or I find out I don't like the game as much anymore, but they do.  Then if I quit they're like wtf. 

Not willing to give other games a chance ????  If it wasn't for WoW's popularity, these so called new MMO's wouldn't have NEAR the number of box sales that they do.  Tons of people are looking for something to grab them (I'm one) but there just isn't anything. 

Speaking of War, it is simply a different version of WoW (which is a version of.. yada yada, we know) with a couple of new ideas.  The problem is that the new ideas weren't enough to hold people.  I mean, if you play a game that is so similar to one you are already enjoying, why switch?

Back to the OP tho, he must be enjoying the game.  Either that or he needs to be put away.  Let him play.  Why the hell do you want to take fun away from a "friend"??

Z

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Biohazard931

He seems like a naive child.

It's pretty clear that the naivety runs both ways.

If he's still playing the game after 3.5 years; if all your badgering and harassment hasn't convinced him to quit then there's a pretty simply explanation: He still enjoys the game and doesn't want to quit.

When he's agreeing with you about the games flaws and such, there's a 99% probability that he's just trying to get you to shut the hell up about it and stop bothering him. I mean, seriously .. repeatedly compiling documentary articles ridiculing the chosen pastime of your "friend" .. ?

If i were in his place, if a friend of mine was attempting to forcibly impose their opinions onto me and trying to deny my right to have my own preferences .. I'd have slapped the crap out of them by now.

 

Maybe OPs friend doesen't even know they are friends.

Win.

ok, so like this is only my 2nd post or something as i never post anywhere but i read these forums alot and today this thread has irked me!

Firstly to the OP, your the guy with the problem, you dont like wow and your trying to impose this onto your friend who obviously does so just leave him the hell alone to enjoy his game and go get a frisbee or something.

secondly im fed up of reading about ppl who dont like the game and automatically think just because they dont like it, its a rubbish and flawed game. now for you not to like it is 100% fine and is cool, but WOW is not by any stretch of the imagination a bad game, not in design, not in content and not in its execution, in fact it IS the best made MMO on the market and it does everything better or as good as anything everything else, if it didnt ppl wouldnt play it in the numbers they do, so stop confusing your not liking of the game with it being a bad game.You may get bored after several years playing but that doesnt make it a bad game all of a sudden, that is just your tastes changing. And no, i dont play wow currently, in fact i've only ever gotten to lvl 62 or 63 and its not my favourite mmo ive played, WAR or Lotro would prob take that mantle.

Originally posted by Doorb

ok, so like this is only my 2nd post or something as i never post anywhere but i read these forums alot and today this thread has irked me!

Firstly to the OP, your the guy with the problem, you dont like wow and your trying to impose this onto your friend who obviously does so just leave him the hell alone to enjoy his game and go get a frisbee or something.

secondly im fed up of reading about ppl who dont like the game and automatically think just because they dont like it, its a rubbish and flawed game. now for you not to like it is 100% fine and is cool, but WOW is not by any stretch of the imagination a bad game, not in design, not in content and not in its execution, in fact it IS the best made MMO on the market and it does everything better or as good as anything everything else, if it didnt ppl wouldnt play it in the numbers they do, so stop confusing your not liking of the game with it being a bad game.You may get bored after several years playing but that doesnt make it a bad game all of a sudden, that is just your tastes changing. And no, i dont play wow currently, in fact i've only ever gotten to lvl 62 or 63 and its not my favourite mmo ive played, WAR or Lotro would prob take that mantle.

You see that highlighted part there?  That's a problem.  First you say that just because peeps don't like it doesn't make it a bad game, but the same goes the other way!  YOU think it is the best etc etc, it's all OPINION and you probably just started a flame war in this thread! lol  Just wanted to point that out ;)

Z

Dead horse is dead.

Originally posted by jacobuj

Dead horse is dead.

No im sure I saw its right back leg moved then.. quick bash it again to be sure.

Originally posted by Doorb

secondly im fed up of reading about ppl who dont like the game and automatically think just because they dont like it, its a rubbish and flawed game. now for you not to like it is 100% fine and is cool, but WOW is not by any stretch of the imagination a bad game, not in design, not in content and not in its execution, in fact it IS the best made MMO on the market and it does everything better or as good as anything everything else, if it didnt ppl wouldnt play it in the numbers they do, so stop confusing your not liking of the game with it being a bad game.

Amen to that.  I dont like Wow either but dont think its a bad game for that, just not my cup of tea.

On the other hand I really dont agree with you that it is the best game on the market. It is not the best looking, it dont have the best story or the best world and I am critical to that it should have the best game mechanics either.

It do have the best polish (except Guildwars), is easiest and have the bests comercials. But more people watched the last Indiana Jones movie then the 2 earlier, numbers dont makes something the best.

MCDonalds are not the best resturant and Brittney aint the best musician even though you of course have the right to think so.

Wow is one of the better MMOs out there, Ok with that but there are better out there too.

I agree that it is opinion, and most MMO's out today, such as WAR and Lotro and even Vangaurd and Aoc now, are not bad games, even though you can go into all there forums on here and find ppl who demand blacks blue that they are the worst games ever created and they have  a bazzilion problems, none of which they really understand they just pretend to do so so they can bash said game. but as it stands at the moment, wow is the most polished, has the most content, and all the basic game mechanics perform that little bit better than anyhing else out there. If wow was as bad as ppl claim when it first came out then it would never have gotten the numbers it does today. wow has the advantage of time and im sure after a few years games like WAR can be just as polished and complete.  

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Doorb

secondly im fed up of reading about ppl who dont like the game and automatically think just because they dont like it, its a rubbish and flawed game. now for you not to like it is 100% fine and is cool, but WOW is not by any stretch of the imagination a bad game, not in design, not in content and not in its execution, in fact it IS the best made MMO on the market and it does everything better or as good as anything everything else, if it didnt ppl wouldnt play it in the numbers they do, so stop confusing your not liking of the game with it being a bad game.

 

Amen to that.  I dont like Wow either but dont think its a bad game for that, just not my cup of tea.

On the other hand I really dont agree with you that it is the best game on the market. It is not the best looking, it dont have the best story or the best world and I am critical to that it should have the best game mechanics either.

It do have the best polish (except Guildwars), is easiest and have the bests comercials. But more people watched the last Indiana Jones movie then the 2 earlier, numbers dont makes something the best.

MCDonalds are not the best resturant and Brittney aint the best musician even though you of course have the right to think so.

Wow is one of the better MMOs out there, Ok with that but there are better out there too.

Ms. Spears is sooooooo five years ago. Disney has cranked out new flesh since then. Replace all Brittany references with Hanna Montana or the Jonas Brothers. 

Originally posted by crunchyblack

Originally posted by Ahiles

Originally posted by Flarinstar

What I dont understand is why you care so much? If he doesn't want to quit (which if he keeps playing he obviously doesn't want to) why are you trying to make him quit? Either join him or move on and play a different game by yourself. And no i don't play WoW.

 

This is alos what I am woundering.  Why the hell is this person trying to convince his so called friend to quit.  The other player obvioulsy dosnt want to quit, and despite what you may think or believe, he may actually like playing it, ever thought of that?  I know its a new concept for soem of you wow haters to comprehend, BUT HE MAY ACTUALLY FIND PLAYING A GAME FUN.  Maybe you should also try to find a game you like to play for fun instead of wasting your time trying to convince him and everyone else on wow sucks.

Hell like all games wow will eventually come to and end or a gradual slowdown.  But jesus dont try to push your ideas on another player already playing.  This is why most of you wow haters just jump from 1 game to another every 1 month, because you dont understand the concept that actually people enjoy playing wow.

 

Well playing mmo's with your friends makes them all that much better.  Perhaps he just wants to play something new with his buddy.  In fact a majority of what Ahiles wrote kinda bothers me.  I feel like its an attempt to shield wow players from the outside world. 

I reall love the fact that this is now a wow hater trying to destroy a precious wow players love for his game, despite he said his friend is bored of playing it.  Both these guys spent a lot of time playing wow, so i wouldnt call them haters.  Remember you shouldnt be married to your mmorpg, you should play with your friends, people are more important than your devotion to a particulair mmo.

Now that i think about it, the post i quoted are quite creepy, my god these are just games, if the op wants his friend to play a game with him whats the big deal, even if its online hearts over wow?  He was just pointing out how akward it is when his buddy says hes bored of a game but cant quit (addiction?)

Thanks man. The reply to my thread you qouted is pretty much all wrong -.-  How can I be a WoW hater? I've played for more than 2 years but recently stopped... and what you've said is quite true. I do want him to see other things and then perhaps we could play together. Thats all.

Originally posted by Doorb

ok, so like this is only my 2nd post or something as i never post anywhere but i read these forums alot and today this thread has irked me!

Firstly to the OP, your the guy with the problem, you dont like wow and your trying to impose this onto your friend who obviously does so just leave him the hell alone to enjoy his game and go get a frisbee or something.

secondly im fed up of reading about ppl who dont like the game and automatically think just because they dont like it, its a rubbish and flawed game. now for you not to like it is 100% fine and is cool, but WOW is not by any stretch of the imagination a bad game, not in design, not in content and not in its execution, in fact it IS the best made MMO on the market and it does everything better or as good as anything everything else, if it didnt ppl wouldnt play it in the numbers they do, so stop confusing your not liking of the game with it being a bad game.You may get bored after several years playing but that doesnt make it a bad game all of a sudden, that is just your tastes changing. And no, i dont play wow currently, in fact i've only ever gotten to lvl 62 or 63 and its not my favourite mmo ive played, WAR or Lotro would prob take that mantle.

Oh dude just shut your damn face will you? I NEVER said I hated WoW. I'll go ahead and say it! WoW was my first mmorpg! I put most of my life into it. I bloody loved it. But I stopped eventually. I dont hate WoW. I just find it boring now.  I've been playing most mmorpgs now. I've had the trial of Eve, Vangaurd ugh you name it.. all these small ones (Even Rapplez before I played WoW years ago) I'm not some un educated guy who thinks that WoW sucks without any reasons or it is the best for no reason. -.-

The thing is in "THE WHOLE PACKAGE" of the game.

You can have a few outstanding things in a certain mmo, like PQ which i really love in War, but if the whole things just dosen't add up, than it fails!

lol bio, your the dude giving your friend all the documentaries about why wow sucks, not me.  i apologise for being "un educacated" and not understanding your whining and failing to understand and accept that your friend enjoys a game you don't. i don't like tomato's and you probably do, but fear not my friend, i am in the process of compiling several reports to try and change your mind, and will be posting a thread on tomato's online concerning my non understanding of another persons likes as opposed to mine.

WoW is both simple, so that anyone can play, and very difficult to master so it can hold your attention a long time.

And if you make friends in the game, well there's another layer.

I've played mosts mmorpg's and WoW beats them in all categories of play except for graphics.

Yogi Bera said it best: 'Nobody plays WoW anymore, it's too popular.'

I think the problem stems from your mate seeing you hopping around a bunch of games and not settling down with one of them.  If you keep quitting games your mate thinks there must be something wrong with them and so he sticks to playing his WOW account so at least his playing something while you go out and do the hard work of finding something else for both of you to play.

How about this for a suggestion.  Find a relativly popular game thats been around for over 12 months.  I'm guessing alot of the reason to go back to WOW stems from most of the games you try are bug filled just released titles.  Most MMO's take 12 months or so to iron out all the bumps so thats why I'm suggesting a slightly older title than you may be used to trying.  Heck compile a list of games these age that are still around and go over it with your friend and try and start in one of these games together that you both find interesting.  Having a friend from the get go in alot of MMO's makes alot of difference.  From the sounds of it thats whatyou tried to do with WAR but like I said WAR is a just released title and as such has alot of bugs when your used to WOW thats usually a big turn off.

Depending on your mates financial situation maybe he can afford to I dunno play 2 MMO's for a while.  That way you can play 1 MMO together and he can pop into WOW whenever he needs a break from the new MMO.  Just because you play 1 particular MMO doesn't have to mean thats the only one you can play unless of cause it means you don't eat that month because of your multiple MMO subs.  Get him involved in looking for the next MMO you both play together and you never know you both might find something else to fill the WOW void.

Originally posted by nomraw

Yep, many still like Britney Spears the same way many like WoW :P (JOKIN)

Is it a joke when it's the truth?  :P  Like I always say, wow's a great online game, but a terribly shallow mmo.  

Originally posted by zaxxon23

Originally posted by nomraw

Yep, many still like Britney Spears the same way many like WoW :P (JOKIN)

 

Is it a joke when it's the truth?  :P  Like I always say, wow's a great online game, but a terribly shallow mmo.  

Nah, WoW is Elvis, all hail the king!  

If he likes it, so what.  As long as he isn't blowing you off to do things in the game, then nothing is wrong there.  I personally think WoW is one of the worst games in history, and there are many of us, but there is nothing wrong with playing it if you enjoy it.  If he is actually refusing to do things he used to enjoy doing with you for the sake of the game, then that is actually a problem or addiction, which you should try to help your friend out with.

The sum of an mmo is not just the game mechanics or even the game itself.  A good deal of it is the people that you play with.  Personally I just got back into WOW because of a chick I recently started dating and have a real good time with her in the game.  If it weren't for her I wouldn't have resubbed and wouldn't be playing any mmo's right now lol.  The same thing went for SWG.  I played that for far longer than I ever would have if it weren't for the relationships and friendships I had made in that game.

Maybe it's not for you to decide for your friend what he should or should not be playing?

Originally posted by Thatim

WoW is simple, but can be fun.

You are EXACTLY RIGHT, Sir/Madame.

I have created a table that shows "commercialzied gamers:"

• FIRST element on the table:  "FUN"
• LAST element on the table:  SIMPLE.*

*(You can view the table here)

You are exactly right.  It is the first, and last, thing commercialized gamers look for and desire it is why WoW is a huge success.

The OP sounds like an annoying friend tbh.

If I had a guy/girl sending me snipets of conversations to convince me why I shouldnt be playing a game that I obviously enjoy doing I would stop talking to the freaking guy/girl.

OP I get it the guy is playing WoW but it could be worse......

He could be playing one of those scam MMOs (F2p) that drain your bank account or hello kitty online.

Let the dude do nothing but dailies all day and sit in a major city jumping around for ten hours.

The majority of the people on this forum seem to love that, dont bother wasting your time with him.