ITS YOU FAULT!!! FOR SAYING:

1) This game have potential!!!

2) For saying this game just release thereby excuses all crap!!!

3) Even WoW also have problems when release!!! ( Than might as well compare to UO or EQ???!!!)

4) For killing any players that give good suggestion to the Devs during BETA in forums!!!

5) For hyping the game!!!

6) Can i buy the game and thus contribute more money to them to make this game better?!!! ( I'm guilty too... XD)

7) Is your PC that sux!!! (Even though I'm running on a high end rig!!!)

8) For being such a fanbois!!!

Yes, i do agree that because that games is being push too early for release by Publisher and that Devs hope to have a game that is WoW wana-be thereby have a bigger piesce of the pie...

But if we players!!! truly stand together and say NO!!!! Do not release such a crap!!! Than this gene will not fail so much...
 

Nice thread.

I like the constructive part of it. It does really add something. I further do think that your way of describing it is superb.

First in this thread full of awesomeness.

Amen brother :-)

A very angry 2 year old after being griefed in wow.

I have no idea what the hell your trying to accomplish, but for the record...

NO U!

Originally posted by Ebonheart

I have no idea what the hell your trying to accomplish, but for the record...

NO U!

NO U!

Amen arctaurs! 

Originally posted by Thatim

Originally posted by Ebonheart

I have no idea what the hell your trying to accomplish, but for the record...

NO U!

 

NO U!

This is from WoW forum, i know, but what im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion when we hvnt even bring it to be more popular to other platform, and thereby bringing more players to it and will greatly add more years to this game....

Originally posted by Cydone

A very angry 2 year old after being griefed in wow.

 

You may have missed the point of the thread.

and on topic, yes, what you say is true, but its not new news, people have been saying it for years.  and honestly i'd sometimes rather pay for an unfinished game than wait another 6 months, simply because I want to have some fun.

Never mind...

I'm sure I can't speak your language anywhere near as well as you speak mine. :P

Sounds good in principle, but it will never happen. It's like world peace.

Originally posted by Anubisan

9) For having terrible English skills!

And i apologize for that for engilsh is not my first language...." hic"!

I don't think its the players fault for the game getting released too early at all. It is the players fault that when it is released too early, that they whine a bitch about everything problem they can think of. People can't be content with the content and this and that. If everyone wasn't so damned negative they might be able to see the good in the game and let it out weight the bad.

Originally posted by arctarus

 

This is from WoW forum, i know, but what im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion when we hvnt even bring it to be more popular to other platform, and thereby bringing more players to it and will greatly add more years to this game....

 

 

 

Arc, I think you mean genre, although the genes of a lot of people playing this genre have probably severely failed them.  Maybe those genes should be allowed to pass away into oblivion.  I'm not an advocate of eugenics, but these forums do make me sympathetic at times to how Justice Holmes felt in the Buck v. Bell decision.

Originally posted by mmoguy43

I don't think its the players fault for the game getting released too early at all. It is the players fault that when it is released too early, that they whine a bitch about everything problem they can think of. People can't be content with the content and this and that. If everyone wasn't so damned negative they might be able to see the good in the game and let it out weight the bad.

Yes, as i state in my thread that i do agree that its the publisher fault to release a game early, but its the players fault that justified that! ( Giving all kinds of excuses) If we no longer accept this kind of things  and dont buy the game, than they will no longer release it early....

So its still our fault...

You may have missed the point of the thread.

and on topic, yes, what you say is true, but its not new news, people have been saying it for years.  and honestly i'd sometimes rather pay for an unfinished game than wait another 6 months, simply because I want to have some fun.

I totally agree with you. In my opinion, I believe that players don't give games enough time after launch to adapt. If I like the feel of the game at launch, I'll usually stick to it at least until the first major patch to see in which direction the Devs go.

Originally posted by arctarus

2) For saying this game just release thereby excuses all crap!!!

This right here i have been preaching to deaf ears for years. I think i almost coined the phrase stockholme syndrome when speaking about gamers making excuses on behalf of these gaming companies, since i have been using the term for over 5 years. I could be wrong about that of course

Gamers have gotten so used to being handed a buggy unfinished beta product disguised as a finished game that they now think that this is a standard we should just accept be marry and shut up about. God forbid you should point out the game needs another round of beta bug crushing without running into a wall of flame. Is it "i need my newest MMO' Fix I'm willing to deal with anything" type of behavior?. I never understood it and never will. After spending 50 bucks i don't sit down and say to myself. Hey this is quite buggy but i am just happy i have something entirely new. My 50 bucks is just a down payment for them to eventually fix or add the content that is stated on the box.

The most stupid comments i usually read as a retaliation is "It's just 50 bucks man. If you can't spend that much you shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Start collecting golf balls instead it's cheaper". They obviously don't apply any rational thinking to this argument. It's not just 50 bucks. Once you set your sight on a new game ..you need a new game. If a game doesn't cut it because it's a buggy unfinished failed to deliver piece of garbage..You have to go and spend another 50 bucks on a game. Now it's a 100 bucks your out. That's not even adressing that $50 is a completely unacceptable loss for most of us. If you go buy a faulty product or a product that doesn't do as advertised you take it back to the store even if it cost $10. Most responsible adults does not like throwing money away specially not 50 bucks. If you are one of the lucky few that doesn't care about that kind of money i have a Paypal account. Feel free to send me some.

If we had some decent return policies when it comes to games this would be a non issue. As it stands it's a caveat emptor system that 100% caters to the sellers not the buyers. In the majority of cases we can't return these games because of used CD keys and whatnot. I couldn't give a rats ass about companies protecting their intellectual properties when it comes at a cost to basic consumer rights

Originally posted by Fibsdk

Originally posted by arctarus

2) For saying this game just release thereby excuses all crap!!!

 

This right here i have been preaching to deaf ears for years. I think i almost coined the phrase stockholme syndrome when speaking about gamers making excuses on behalf of these gaming companies, since i have been using the term for over 5 years. I could be wrong about that of course

 

Gamers have gotten so used to being handed a buggy unfinished beta product disguised as a finished game that they now think that this is a standard we should just accept be marry and shut up about. God forbid you should point out the game needs another round of beta bug crushing without running into a wall of flame. Is it "i need my newest MMO' Fix I'm willing to deal with anything" type of behavior?. I never understood it and never will. After spending 50 bucks i don't sit down and say to myself. Hey this is quite buggy but i am just happy i have something entirely new. My 50 bucks is just a down payment for them to eventually fix or add the content that is stated on the box.

 

The most stupid comments i usually read as a retaliation is "It's just 50 bucks man. If you can't spend that much you shouldn't be gaming in the first place. Start collecting golf balls instead it's cheaper". They obviously don't apply any rational thinking to this argument. It's not just 50 bucks. Once you set your sight on a new game ..you need a new game. If a game doesn't cut it because it's a buggy unfinished failed to deliver piece of garbage..You have to go and spend another 50 bucks on a game. Now it's a 100 bucks your out. That's not even adressing that $50 is a completely unacceptable loss for most of us. If you go buy a faulty product or a product that doesn't do as advertised you take it back to the store even if it cost $10. Most responsible adults does not like throwing money away specially not 50 bucks. If you are one of the lucky few that doesn't care about that kind of money i have a Paypal account. Feel free to send me some.

 Exactly......

Originally posted by Thatim

Originally posted by Ebonheart

I have no idea what the hell your trying to accomplish, but for the record...

NO U!

 

NO U!

NO U BOTH!!!

Originally posted by Mathrym

I totally agree with you. In my opinion, I believe that players don't give games enough time after launch to adapt. If I like the feel of the game at launch, I'll usually stick to it at least until the first major patch to see in which direction the Devs go.

Players dont give the games enough time?

How long does a game needs to be make? 4 years?

During that period we  already  know where the game is heading... but releasing an un-finish games is no excuse for it!!!

After the game is release its call patch, patch deals with what? Bugs!!!... but not the main content, the direction of the game which the Devs already set instone BEFORE release...

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by Mathrym

I totally agree with you. In my opinion, I believe that players don't give games enough time after launch to adapt. If I like the feel of the game at launch, I'll usually stick to it at least until the first major patch to see in which direction the Devs go.

 Players dont give the games enough time?

How long does a game needs to be make? 4 years?

I said after the game is released.

 

During that period we  already  know where the game is heading... but releasing an un-finish games is no excuse for it!!!After the game is release its call patch, patch deals with what? Bugs!!!... but not the main content, the direction of the game which the Devs already set instone BEFORE release...

 Yes, I agree that you know where the game is heading, but you can't possibly know the feel of it. And as for releasing un-finished game, I believe that it partly our fault because we put pressure on devs/publisher to get it out ASAP. The only company I know that does not give in to that pressure (there might be others), is Blizzard. Any time people asks them when a game will get out... they always answer : When it's finished/ready... never before

Finally, to believe that direction is set in stone is quite foolish. Anything can happen and at any time, people can make any decision, including Devs. Look at how SWG changed within that fatefull patch that sent lots of players looking for another game.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by mmoguy43

I don't think its the players fault for the game getting released too early at all. It is the players fault that when it is released too early, that they whine a bitch about everything problem they can think of. People can't be content with the content and this and that. If everyone wasn't so damned negative they might be able to see the good in the game and let it out weight the bad.

I totally agree with you.......as long as I am allowed to only pay a portion of my $15 monthly for only those parts that are good and the devs pay me the remaining $14 for the parts that suck.

Originally posted by arctarus 

im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion

Nothing will stop your gene from going into oblivion.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by arctarus 

im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion

Nothing will stop your gene from going into oblivion.

One word .. 'Cryogenics'. Or procreate which i don't recommend for the many of you on this board. If you are not all steril already from living infront of the monitors

You know you're on to something when a majority of the posters attack the English and grammar of the message bearer.

Yeah, it's pretty much all true. The players accept and excuse failed releases so the publishers commit them. What's really funny is that after the fall of nearly every hyped major release in the past 5 years people are still surprised at each failure.