Originally posted by indiramourn

Originally posted by LynxJSA

It's not that they don't have a clue. Devs balance realism with fun.

 

I agree, and any competent developer knows when realism should be sacrificed for fun.  But then why are there several features of DF that fall into the "not fun" at worst or "ackward" at best category (like how looting works or switching weapons and attacks works for example) and the primary argument in favor of how those features are implemented is that they are "realistic"?

I don't think the DF devs spend much time considering the trade offs between realism and fun when they make design decisions.  Heck, I'm not sure they spend time considering anything they do before they just slam it out there.

+1

When discussing the UI, fans would defend it as more realistic and accuse critics of not being "willing ot work".

~Ripper

Originally posted by rhinok

Originally posted by indiramourn

Originally posted by LynxJSA

It's not that they don't have a clue. Devs balance realism with fun.

 

I agree, and any competent developer knows when realism should be sacrificed for fun.  But then why are there several features of DF that fall into the "not fun" at worst or "ackward" at best category (like how looting works or switching weapons and attacks works for example) and the primary argument in favor of how those features are implemented is that they are "realistic"?

I don't think the DF devs spend much time considering the trade offs between realism and fun when they make design decisions.  Heck, I'm not sure they spend time considering anything they do before they just slam it out there.

+1

When discussing the UI, fans would defend it as more realistic and accuse critics of not being "willing ot work".

~Ripper

But i dont understand how they would do looting in any other way? If someone knows a better way, please tell me : )

Reminds me of Bf1942. Which was released in... 2002?

And I ment that in a good way!

Originally posted by miagisan

not too shabby.....now if the rest of the game was as good as the op, would be worth it.

Very nice video. I like big ships :)

(SWG should have had cap ships dammit! but i digress :P )

melee combat and siege mechanics are really the only things that need clear improvements to reach their full potential, specifically, more melee styles needed and siege mechanics changed to not be 6 hours long and dependent on 1 person. some magic spells are kinda useless but magic as a whole is excellent. archery has been excellent since day 1.

even with the relatively simplistic melee combat, it is easily the #1 PVP MMO by a long way.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by miagisan

not too shabby.....now if the rest of the game was as good as the op, would be worth it.

Very nice video. I like big ships :)

(SWG should have had cap ships dammit! but i digress :P )

 

melee combat and siege mechanics are really the only things that need clear improvements to reach their full potential, specifically, more melee styles needed and siege mechanics changed to not be 6 hours long and dependent on 1 person. some magic spells are kinda useless but magic as a whole is excellent. archery has been excellent since day 1.

 

even with the relatively simplistic melee combat, it is easily the #1 PVP MMO by a long way.

i still think EVE's pvp is better because it is alot more strategic....but that's a personal preference on my part.

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by miagisan

not too shabby.....now if the rest of the game was as good as the op, would be worth it.

Very nice video. I like big ships :)

(SWG should have had cap ships dammit! but i digress :P )

 

melee combat and siege mechanics are really the only things that need clear improvements to reach their full potential, specifically, more melee styles needed and siege mechanics changed to not be 6 hours long and dependent on 1 person. some magic spells are kinda useless but magic as a whole is excellent. archery has been excellent since day 1.

 

even with the relatively simplistic melee combat, it is easily the #1 PVP MMO by a long way.

i still think EVE's pvp is better because it is alot more strategic....but that's a personal preference on my part.

my EVE account is still active though i haven't played for weeks.

the choice of ships/mods versus Darkfall's gearing up is more strategic yes, but group and terrain tactics are much much better in Darkfall versus EVE's fleet fights... eve fleet fights can be really long and somewhat boring since it really only comes down to focus fire, a good FC, and "primary == Xxx, secondary == Yyyy". DF's combat is much more fast-paced and involving.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by miagisan

not too shabby.....now if the rest of the game was as good as the op, would be worth it.

Very nice video. I like big ships :)

(SWG should have had cap ships dammit! but i digress :P )

 

melee combat and siege mechanics are really the only things that need clear improvements to reach their full potential, specifically, more melee styles needed and siege mechanics changed to not be 6 hours long and dependent on 1 person. some magic spells are kinda useless but magic as a whole is excellent. archery has been excellent since day 1.

 

even with the relatively simplistic melee combat, it is easily the #1 PVP MMO by a long way.

i still think EVE's pvp is better because it is alot more strategic....but that's a personal preference on my part.

my EVE account is still active though i haven't played for weeks.

the choice of ships/mods versus Darkfall's gearing up is more strategic yes, but group and terrain tactics are much much better in Darkfall versus EVE's fleet fights... eve fleet fights can be really long and it really only comes down to "primary == Xxx, secondary == Yyyy". DF's combat is much more fast-paced and involving.

 

 

like i said, having played both, i just feel that eve's is more strategic. Though i should clarify. I haven't played the naval portion of DF, but comparing it to the ground pvp, which i found very simplistic in DF. But again, personal opinions.

First case of documented piracy. Yarr!

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

ha ha awesome : )

"The Mercs" are so hardcore they don't allow slightly critical comments on the vids. Raise the pink flag of surrender honey! LMAO

Originally posted by Cuelda

First case of documented piracy. Yarr!

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

lol, thanks for that, missed it.

I think we found the first thing AV don't need to fix. How promising they can start on everything else maybe tomorrow after tea time maybe ?

Seriously guys not going to buy the game because one sodding feature was implemented (well ? ) out of the loads STILL on there website which still has some many missing things 2 months after release... Grrrr !

well, to be fair, the website has been out of date for over 3 years at least, and anyone who knows anything about Darkfall knows that the developer journals that were released every 2 weeks for the past 3 years are the only real sources of DF game info.

judged against the dev journals, the number of missing things is tiny, just 4-legged mahirrim running, weather was taken out in beta, some other newstuff was added (lik rivers/streams washing you downstream).