Well I am lost.  I have no idea what game I wanna play.  It is not because of the large amount of games out there, but because of the lack of good titles.  Played all the major games, war, wow, aoc, and others, I just don't know every game out there and I really can't see one coming up I am excited about.  I am wanting pvp, rvr, and little questing, god i hate questing after playing wow.  Anyway anyone have any games that are worth playing.  Wouldn't mind an older games if its still fun to play or new to me.

This will piss a few people off but it needs to be suggested. Ever thought about playing Darkfall?

I have but I just hear so many bad things about it.  I shouldnt really listen to people complain but its hard to ignore

Hang out on these forums enough and you will find most of the people here are in that situation.

DAOC if you've never tried it.  Heard there's a bit of a rebirth movement atm, so you might want to check it out.  Lots of folks returning and rolling new characters.

Otherwise, EVE.

The only advice I can give you is to try the game for yourself and make your own mind up - Many people complaining about the game on these forums don't actually have an account. The game is nowhere near perfect, but its just about as close to the MMO you're looking for as possible. I personally think the only MMO's currently worth playing are EVE Online and Darkfall Online.

I love the game personally :)

played daoc so might go back to that. eve would be the best game ever if you could us a joystick. :-)

just try not playing anything. be warned. not playing anything for a long period of time will make you realize how dumb the games of today are.

Originally posted by GeniusSage

This will piss a few people off but it needs to be suggested. Ever thought about playing Darkfall?

a lot of us have thought about giving it a try, sadly they aren't letting new people in the game.  every day we can't get in game is another day someone else is getting an advantage.

Originally posted by dromo003

Well I am lost.  I have no idea what game I wanna play.  It is not because of the large amount of games out there, but because of the lack of good titles.  Played all the major games, war, wow, aoc, and others, I just don't know every game out there and I really can't see one coming up I am excited about.  I am wanting pvp, rvr, and little questing, god i hate questing after playing wow.  Anyway anyone have any games that are worth playing.  Wouldn't mind an older games if its still fun to play or new to me.

You should never come out on this website and ask peoples' opinion on games, half of them are FTARDS to begin with. 

WoW is by far one of the worse mmorpg's on the market regardless of how big their subsriber base is. Yes there are that many stupid people out there and you can't fix stupid. I knew that game blew when it was just in beta testing which I was unfortunate enough to experience.

If you want a good opinion I'll give you mine, whenever I speak people should stop and listen.

1. There are many more game genres than stupid mmorpg's to be played, i.e. singleplayer/co-op rpg's, FPS online/singleplayer, action and so on.....

2. MMORPG's are not the only game genre people need to play, you're not a true gamer if you do anyways.

3. Until companies stop developing cookie cutter mmorpg's copying off of everything else it's always gonna be a stale market. People are burned out on them it's either level/skilled based, kill/quest grind, PvP - script or non-script, (basically cheat or no cheat), idiotic/annoying community base, pets/mounts etc. etc.

4. AoC had great potential but still not only fell to the same ole sh!t but one of the most linear mmorpg's I have ever played.

5. My advice to you is stay away from this genre until a company can actually produce a product that has at least 1 unique attribute that other titles do not have. That or a whole new concept to this genre otherwise no matter what is spewing out of these game companies it's all the same crap wrapped up in a different color.

6. Some titles that you should research up on: Star Wars: The Old Republic, Fallen Earth, Earthrise and Star Trek Online

These titles look promising but how may times have we heard that from the developer's mouth? I would keep a close eye on SW:TOR it looks the most promising and every true gamer knows Bioware's top notch reputation, for those that don't....take a bow you're a true FTARD.

best reply ever. :-)  I agree with you, WoW has ruined the genre.  Everything is a WoW copy, as most people say, but thats like saying a strawberry is an orange copy b/c its sweet.  Been looking at SW:ToR.  Not really a star wars fan but the game seems like it could be solid.  I should look at the others as well

I'm with you, brother! If you haven't tried the following, do so.

Good games you should've played in no particular order:

-Baldur's Gate Trilogy (1, 2, Throne of Bhaal) (can do co-op)

-KotOR 1 and 2

-Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask of the Betrayer (didn't care too much about NWN 1) (co-op)

-Mass Effect

-ES3: Morrowind

-ES4: Oblivion

-Fallout 1, 2 and 3

-Assassin's Creed

-Haloes 1, 2 and 3 (co-op)

-Dungeon Siege 1 and 2(co-op lan game. don't bother sp is boring)

-Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 1 and 2 (excellent rts lan games both)

-Company of Heroes: (good lan game)

-Kingdom Under Fire

-Half-life 2 all of them

-Rainbow Six Las Vegas 1 & 2 (co-op)

-Gears of War 1 and 2 (co-op)

-Diablo 2 with the expansion.

-Bioshock

-Splinter Cell Double Agent (co-op)

-Condemned: Criminal Origins

-Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit

There should be enough before anything worthwhile comes up. You should atleast try the KotORs while waiting for SW:ToR.

I was in the same boat as you for awhile jumping from MMO to MMO. I finally just gave up on P2P mmos and decided to try and find a decent F2P mmo to just casually play. I went through so many damn f2p mmos with no avail. But i finally found one that seems to be worth a damn.

Regnum online.

Its kind of like a DOAC type game where theres three faction fighting over an area and such. Its pretty neat. It has an item mall but none of the items actually give an advantage in gameplay. It just sells things like mounts and what not.

Give it a try if your intereseted. Its 100% free.

Originally posted by dromo003

best reply ever. :-)  I agree with you, WoW has ruined the genre.  Everything is a WoW copy, as most people say, but thats like saying a strawberry is an orange copy b/c its sweet.  Been looking at SW:ToR.  Not really a star wars fan but the game seems like it could be solid.  I should look at the others as well

Blah,blah, blah...  WoW did not ruin anything.  It's people who hate WoW so much that they will jump on the bandwagon of any game that is not WoW that are ruining the genre. 

Sword of the New World

Perfect World International

The two things I played for a while but is taking a break from. I'm currently looking for something else.

Originally posted by Torik

Originally posted by dromo003

best reply ever. :-)  I agree with you, WoW has ruined the genre.  Everything is a WoW copy, as most people say, but thats like saying a strawberry is an orange copy b/c its sweet.  Been looking at SW:ToR.  Not really a star wars fan but the game seems like it could be solid.  I should look at the others as well

 

Blah,blah, blah...  WoW did not ruin anything.  It's people who hate WoW so much that they will jump on the bandwagon of any game that is not WoW that are ruining the genre. 

See I have quit and played WoW a number of times.  Honestly it is a very refined game and is great for many people.  The problem that I have with it is the effect it has on people.  Let me give an example.  I was around 13ish when Everquest and Asheron's Call came out.  Played both but liked AC better so played that.  All I would hear from people is how good EQ was and would compare every game to it.  Granted most were mmo's so I guess that is a comparison but many were of different genres.  The same thing is happening to WoW.  Many people are comparing games of extremely different genres to it simply because its an mmo.  Daoc vs Wow is like apples and oranges.  When your first mmo is huge like Wow people think that if it doesn't reach that lvl then its not as good.  EQ had less than 500,000 in its prime, AC less than 300,000 and many others probably less but most people who have played some of the older mmo's still regard them as the best.

I'm going to give Alganon a try; if it doesn't work out for me I might give up on the genre for a while.  I've grown so tired of mmo end games, scheduling what is supposed to be relaxing game play like it's a f'n job utterly stupid.  Tired of quest, of classes, of the complete and utter lack of variety.

I've given thought to going back to UO.

Originally posted by Quirhid

I'm with you, brother! If you haven't tried the following, do so.

 

Good games you should've played in no particular order:

-Baldur's Gate Trilogy (1, 2, Throne of Bhaal) (can do co-op)

-KotOR 1 and 2

-Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask of the Betrayer (didn't care too much about NWN 1) (co-op)

-Mass Effect

-ES3: Morrowind

-ES4: Oblivion

-Fallout 1, 2 and 3

-Assassin's Creed

-Haloes 1, 2 and 3 (co-op)

-Dungeon Siege 1 and 2(co-op lan game. don't bother sp is boring)

-Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 1 and 2 (excellent rts lan games both)

-Company of Heroes: (good lan game)

-Kingdom Under Fire

-Half-life 2 all of them

-Rainbow Six Las Vegas 1 & 2 (co-op)

-Gears of War 1 and 2 (co-op)

-Diablo 2 with the expansion.

-Bioshock

-Splinter Cell Double Agent (co-op)

-Condemned: Criminal Origins

-Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit

 

 

There should be enough before anything worthwhile comes up. You should atleast try the KotORs while waiting for SW:ToR.

my 2 pennies here. to this list I might add the following(some of these might need some questing to locate the games themselves!)

Revenant, Nox, Universe at War.

As for MMO, Im currently playing Anarchy Online and RF Online, both are F2P with micropayments and subscription options

Originally posted by dromo003

best reply ever. :-)  I agree with you, WoW has ruined the genre.  Everything is a WoW copy, as most people say, but thats like saying a strawberry is an orange copy b/c its sweet.  Been looking at SW:ToR.  Not really a star wars fan but the game seems like it could be solid.  I should look at the others as well

Seriously, WoW did not ruin anything, but bring up the standard so high that games releasing now that try to be a WoW wanabe have fail.

Its not WoW fault, its the current Dves and players fault that it happen. YES YOU!!!

Devs? : because they try to release another WoW clone, and the publisher for rushing the game out...

Players?: For they give stupid reason reason that " WoW is also unstable when release!" , " This game have potential!", " This game only release 1 week!!!" etc... etc...

But they forget that games that release now is going to complete with genes that is NOW!!! And not 4 or 5 years ago!!!

Might as well compare AoC to UO???!!!

Its the unreleastic players that hype that games with false hope that ultimately cause the game to fall when players buy and log in and found that its just another POS...

So whos' fault??? All its seems to me...... The Publisher, The Devs, and The players.....

Till that day we wake up and stop Dev from releasing un-finish games, and we players stop giving stupid excuses for a stupid games publish... we will continue to face the same problem year after year till this gene dies...

Exactly. The way I see it is that most Wow players are Wow players and not mmo players.  This is great for blizzard but not for the general mmo population.  I would be happy if a game only had 50 to 100,000 people.  Games are unstable when they first come out, but when people start playing a game that has been out for a while people expect new games to be perfect.  I took all the bad when War came out since I knew there were going to be problems. I quit because a powerhouse like EA should have ironed them out by now but haven't.  I don't care if I can't see my guild symbol on my cape; I do care that my Marauder can't hit worth crap and that the game is so unbalanced.   To me WoW can be compaired to Halo in the sense that there are many games better but almost none as popular.  If there isn't millions of people playing then the devs think its a failure.  Honestly how much does it cost to upkeep a game? 15 * 20,000 people is 300,000 a month.  Now I know for a fact they don't spend that but I am not in the business.

does anyone remember the days of planetside...

Originally posted by dromo003

  To me WoW can be compaired to Halo in the sense that there are many games better that but I am not in the business.

Many games better you say??? If there's any game that is better tham it should be more popular right???

Problem with alot of oyu is jumping on the WoW hate bandwagona dn fail to relise the impact that WoW have make for this gene..

Without WoW we will still be playing half-ars releae games, buggy, non-finish crap!!!

But thx to WoW, games that hope to release early and earn money, and games that hope to sell base on hype or "vision" dosent make it now!!!!

We as players have evolve!!!!

And not as a WoW fanbois but THX to WOW the Dev will no longer able to feed us crap and want us to accept!!!

Do not underestimate the impact that WoW have in this gene.......

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by dromo003

  To me WoW can be compaired to Halo in the sense that there are many games better that but I am not in the business.

 

Many games better you say??? If there's any game that is better tham it should be more popular right???

Problem with alot of oyu is jumping on the WoW hate bandwagona dn fail to relise the impact that WoW have make for this gene..

Without WoW we will still be playing half-ars releae games, buggy, non-finish crap!!!

But thx to WoW, games that hope to release early and earn money, and games that hope to sell base on hype or "vision" dosent make it now!!!!

We as players have evolve!!!!

And not as a WoW fanbois but THX to WOW the Dev will no longer able to feed us crap and want us to accept!!!

Do not underestimate the impact that WoW have in this gene.......

 

You're confused, popularity doesn't mean something is better. So saying that there is no better game than WOW just because WOW has the amount of subscribers it has it an outrageous assumption to make. One that you can't really believe.

WOW is a polished game, I'll give it that, but it wasn't released polished. It took years to get there. WOW didn't change the gengre and make people release half-assed games that are buggy and not finished. There's more MMOs than ever being released right now that aren't ready for it, and have been ever since WOW released.

WOW is a streamlined mainstream experience. That is why it's popular. It's accessible. But those things don't translate to good. It translates into being easy to jump into, get the hang of, and play. Just because gangster rap is on the radio and all over the TV, that doesn't mean it's better than any music genre out. Just because country music has entire television channels dedicated to it, that doesn't mean it's the end-all for music. It's the same with anything.

WOW has the subscribers it has because of the titles that lead up to it, because of the money they spent in marketing, because of how casual-friendly the game is to get into, and hardcore friendly it is for the raiders and PVP fanatics. That doesn't mean that the new-player experience is the best, that doesn't mean that the PVP is the best (get serious), or the the PVE is the best.

If anything, titles that go for originality, not taking the safe route and making a game like everyone else, is a good title. Games that are published by smaller developers naturally won't have half the population of Blizzard, just because of exposure. Does that make their game not up to standards?

Think about it.

Yes it is WoW's fault. Why?

In order to satisfy every Joe Schmoe they've dumbed it down so much it doesnt represent any challenge whatsoever. All it has become is a massive timesink, gear grind and nothing else. All you have to do is stand in line, give it time and of course sub money and you can be sure to achieve everything devs had prepared for you.

If you want a challenge play EVE Online. Don't jump straight in though. Do your research first. Learn who you want to play, how to distribute stats, the lingo, etc. It's pretty unforgiving and hard to play it and it takes months to master it. It's also a massive timesink especially if you join the corporation (guild).

Recently i've come across Chronicles of Spellborn which present something halfway between hardcore/casual gaming. It's got a very innovative skillbase combat system that takes a while to get used to, but once you learn how to construct skill decks you can challenge players even 5 levels above you in PvP and win. The downside is theres a lot of questing, although not holding your hand, bullcrap WoW style. You have to read and pay attention to directions and some of the quests are really funny. Also the game due to poor promo is still pretty empty (at least in EU).

If youre a US player game is still in beta there but its free till lvl 7.9 and client is free so get downloading, if youre EU its pretty much the same but with the latest client and you can sub easily if you like it.

If you want fun straight away with good PvP go WAR. But i warn you it looks and feels like WoW. Funny thing WoW is based on WARhammer's IP but WAR the game is a WoW lookalike with tad better graphics. Well, at least in WAR orcs are orks (with the K you see ;-) not some talking, green batty boys... On the negatives WAR isnt a seamless world, just a constant battle in different zones. Theres no downtime, just battles and missions. Since server mergers in EU my server is pretty busy all the time now so at least theres someone to fight with/against.

If you hate questing, like siegeing, FFA PvP with loot, taking cities and pretty hard crafting play Lineage 2. Warning tho: no fun till you hit late 60's. And its an Asian grind fest so be prepared for two weeks of killing mobs to reach the level. On the plus side, its got a seamless world, looks ok if you like androgynous looking avatars.

I'm not going to recommend AoC as i myself find the UI completely useless and game breaking. I agree it's the best looking game ever and worth checking out just for that, if you have the rig to take it. Game play is WoW linear, no seamless world, zoning and instancing galore, PvP is hard due to dumbass UI which is really a WoW style clicky but confounded with combinations of dir keys to unlock them.

I'm myself waiting for Fallen Earth and it's the only MMO on the horizon that's got some potential

i find myself in this situation now as well. i play eve but just barely. i find playing my psp now more fun than playing mmos. wow really did ruin the genre and theres nothing that can be done about it. after all money is money.