Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Vetarnias

So your point is that the original posters words are true that he spent 2 years playing the game off and on and never got past level 55.  Then somehow in the last few months he leveled 3 characters all the way to 80 and you want to call other peoples judgement into question?

 That is possible. Sure, the OP could drop by and clarify a few things -- and he should, just to put to rest those accusations that he's lying -- but if he says he got 6 co-workers to try it out with him, strangely enough, I'm ready to believe him on that.  And if they levelled up together, undoubtedly it went much faster than anything I've done solo.

As for why he hasn't levelled up higher before, I don't know.  Better ask him.

Strange, but when the original posters own words showed that he lied, you didn't believe that.  Instead you replaced fact with assumptions.  Yet when he posts something you can leech onto that casts wow in a negative light you treat him as a bastion of truth?  You can't have it both ways.  The original posters credibility was called into question and shown to be dishonest.  It doesn't matter what stories he comes up with after the fact.  He told the truth weeks ago and anything said now is unbelievable. 

Simply put you read just what you want to read and ignore anything else.  Have fun with that.

As a matter of fact, when I read that latest post of his (which came after I posted those words), I could not make heads or tails of it.  To be honest, I hardly think he is lying at all; he just has a tendency to write in a confusing manner.  You're the one using the word "liar" about him, while in my case I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for saying the truth weeks ago, what do you know about that?  If you're so sure he lied today (well, yesterday), why are you taking as gospel what he wrote in January.  Or could it be that in January, he did not commit the atrocious crime of writing against World of Warcraft?

And it still doesn't answer my damn question: Why bring his credibility into question over what level he's reached and when?  Did the rest of his points in the OP warrant that?  No, they didn't.  He didn't discuss high-end content, just that the high-level players in his guild were getting massacred in a raid when he was level 40.  Guess what? I was level 40ish, too.  I was in a guild.  And I heard about such things ALL THE TIME.

But what you're doing is, you're running an inquisition over something that really doesn't warrant it.

All that transpires from what you're doing is that you're trying to impose the sacrosanct level-based (or time-played) pecking order once again, just to dismiss his views because he didn't have enough experience of the game to comment on it.  In my case, I was honest to say I only reached level 46, that  I had played for six weeks only.  What did that get me?  The same damn inquisition, even though I was honest enough about that.  Read the thread if you haven't already: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218904 .  Some of the high points involved an accusation that I had never bought the game, that I lied for failing to say the amount I said I paid for it was in Canadian dollars (even though my profile clearly states I'm Canadian), and that I exaggerated the amount I paid by $4.86 even though the amount I had mentioned was purely from memory.  There's more, and the entire sad story is summarized in Post #166 over there.

But back to the OP of this thread: Had he posted a lengthy entry saying he liked the game and made claims of being this or that level, would the inquisition have gotten into high gear?  No, it would have been a pat on the back, welcome to the club, and aren't those WoW haters annoying.

I should know, you guys did it about me, you do it about anyone who isn't 80, hasn't been playing WoW for a few years, and who doesn't have hundreds of posts on this site.

This inquisition that meets every single person who writes about WoW in any notch just below wholesale enthusiasm is the kind of vindictive pettiness that needs to be stamped out from this forum.  Once it's done, I'll gladly be on my way.  In the meantime, I think I'll stick around for a little longer.

Originally posted by Vetarnias

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Vetarnias

So your point is that the original posters words are true that he spent 2 years playing the game off and on and never got past level 55.  Then somehow in the last few months he leveled 3 characters all the way to 80 and you want to call other peoples judgement into question?

 That is possible. Sure, the OP could drop by and clarify a few things -- and he should, just to put to rest those accusations that he's lying -- but if he says he got 6 co-workers to try it out with him, strangely enough, I'm ready to believe him on that.  And if they levelled up together, undoubtedly it went much faster than anything I've done solo.

As for why he hasn't levelled up higher before, I don't know.  Better ask him.

Strange, but when the original posters own words showed that he lied, you didn't believe that.  Instead you replaced fact with assumptions.  Yet when he posts something you can leech onto that casts wow in a negative light you treat him as a bastion of truth?  You can't have it both ways.  The original posters credibility was called into question and shown to be dishonest.  It doesn't matter what stories he comes up with after the fact.  He told the truth weeks ago and anything said now is unbelievable. 

Simply put you read just what you want to read and ignore anything else.  Have fun with that.

As a matter of fact, when I read that latest post of his (which came after I posted those words), I could not make heads or tails of it.  To be honest, I hardly think he is lying at all; he just has a tendency to write in a confusing manner.  You're the one using the word "liar" about him, while in my case I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for saying the truth weeks ago, what do you know about that?  If you're so sure he lied today (well, yesterday), why are you taking as gospel what he wrote in January.  Or could it be that in January, he did not commit the atrocious crime of writing against World of Warcraft?

And it still doesn't answer my damn question: Why bring his credibility into question over what level he's reached and when?  Did the rest of his points in the OP warrant that?  No, they didn't.  He didn't discuss high-end content, just that the high-level players in his guild were getting massacred in a raid when he was level 40.  Guess what? I was level 40ish, too.  I was in a guild.  And I heard about such things ALL THE TIME.

But what you're doing is, you're running an inquisition over something that really doesn't warrant it.

All that transpires from what you're doing is that you're trying to impose the sacrosanct level-based (or time-played) pecking order once again, just to dismiss his views because he didn't have enough experience of the game to comment on it.  In my case, I was honest to say I only reached level 46, that  I had played for six weeks only.  What did that get me?  The same damn inquisition, even though I was honest enough about that.  Read the thread if you haven't already: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218904 .  Some of the high points involved an accusation that I had never bought the game, that I lied for failing to say the amount I said I paid for it was in Canadian dollars (even though my profile clearly states I'm Canadian), and that I exaggerated the amount I paid by $4.86 even though the amount I had mentioned was purely from memory.  There's more, and the entire sad story is summarized in Post #166 over there.

But back to the OP of this thread: Had he posted a lengthy entry saying he liked the game and made claims of being this or that level, would the inquisition have gotten into high gear?  No, it would have been a pat on the back, welcome to the club, and aren't those WoW haters annoying.

I should know, you guys did it about me, you do it about anyone who isn't 80, hasn't been playing WoW for a few years, and who doesn't have hundreds of posts on this site.

This inquisition that meets every single person who writes about WoW in just any notch below wholesale enthusiasm is the kind of vindictive pettiness that needs to be stamped out from this forum.  Once it's done, I'll gladly be on my way.  In the meantime, I think I'll stick around for a little longer.

I'm not dismissing his views and I have no problem with people saying they don't like something for a number of reasons.  

However this guy is showing that he is stretching the truth to lend credibility to his words.  Why do I think his words were true a few weeks ago when he said he never got past level 55 in over 2 years, well they were not said in an effort to boost his status.  The only reason he said he NOW has all these high level characters is to try to paint himself as being experienced, since he was called out for talking about things he had no experience with.  

The post from a few weeks agao said he never got past level 55 and it is obvious why he is trying to say now that he does. 

Please don't lump me in with some generalization about you guys, people of your ilk and crap like that.  Either discuss with me or don't, but don't lay the actions of other people at my doorstep as if I am to blame.  Don't discredit me by association just so you can feel right.

Recap, fine to have a negative opinion about a game.  Not fine to make judgements about something you have never experienced.

You'll go back eventually.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Abrahmm

You missed my point. I put "truth" in quotation marks to make it clear that you weren't actually telling the truth, but spewing fallacies or just instigating problems. 

The truth is very simple.
 

11.500.000 people PAY to PLAY the game.

 

 

Glad you brought this up. Regarding your signature... I think you mean 'played' or perhaps even 'paid' if you are being 'punny'

BTW, haven't seen Blizzard post new numbers recently, you sure there's still 11.5m playing?  Whats the date of this figure?

 

Dec 2008.:))
 

And if you look at Xfire the numbers are certainly not down :)))

As for my signature it is indeed a good "punny" :)))

Now let's look at amazon.com and see that 6 Blizzard products are in the top 12 of PC games.

Does that surprise you ? :)))

Let me ask the OP this: You played World of Warcraft for 2 1/2 years. Do you feel you got your money's worth? Or do you feel that these changes ruined the fun you had previously?

Page, you don't have to lie about your level in order to justify quitting WoW. If you got to 68 (which it seems judging by your last post) and decided it wasn't for you, that's fine. You don't have to be level 80 to quit. My sister played for three years and got to level 72 and stopped logging in.

About WoW... I've played since release. I've tried every class, most of them more than once. I have so many 80s I don't really know the number unless I sit to think about it (4? I think... and way more 70s). I've raided, PVPed, and sat around in Org/IF. The game has changed. The people and the environment is way different now than it was when the game first came out. WoW used to be a game where it was OK if you didn't know what you were doing, where new people were helped instead of made fun of. My first character, a druid, was balance (back when it was horrible) and I'm pretty sure I spent most of my time in cat form. But you know what, no one called me on it. Now the game is filled with elitist jerks who think they are better because their purples are little better. I have those purples. I don't feel special. It's to the point where I'd rather not play at all then have to deal with the kiddies (or people with that maturity level).

To me, WoW's not the same and never will be. If you still enjoy it, awesome. I'd give my left arm if I could still. WoW's still a great game. The game isn't what kills it, it's the community.

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Page, you don't have to lie about your level in order to justify quitting WoW. If you got to 68 (which it seems judging by your last post) and decided it wasn't for you, that's fine. You don't have to be level 80 to quit. My sister played for three years and got to level 72 and stopped logging in.

About WoW... I've played since release. I've tried every class, most of them more than once. I have so many 80s I don't really know the number unless I sit to think about it (4? I think... and way more 70s). I've raided, PVPed, and sat around in Org/IF. The game has changed. The people and the environment is way different now than it was when the game first came out. WoW used to be a game where it was OK if you didn't know what you were doing, where new people were helped instead of made fun of. My first character, a druid, was balance (back when it was horrible) and I'm pretty sure I spent most of my time in cat form. But you know what, no one called me on it. Now the game is filled with elitist jerks who think they are better because their purples are little better. I have those purples. I don't feel special. It's to the point where I'd rather not play at all then have to deal with the kiddies (or people with that maturity level).

To me, WoW's not the same and never will be. If you still enjoy it, awesome. I'd give my left arm if I could still. WoW's still a great game. The game isn't what kills it, it's the community.

Odd you wrote this with patch 3.1 just published. Having a huge medieval tournament to cater for the "free to play" casual player.

Odd also since achievements have already long replaced "epic gear" in WotLK as do titles in ALL aspects of the game.

Odd because today's Wow has FAR more choices of end game play than the old "single raiding for epics" game you once had .

Odd you don't know the number of 80's you have (you 'think" 4 and "way more 70's" ...). hmm 5 months into the WotLK and having 4(!) lvl 80's and "way more 70's " ?!?!?

Another Mr first poster also with ANOTHER "game killer" remark... with sooo many characters at highest levels. Wow. :)))

Odd....

Perhaps not on mmorpg.com. section Wow. :))))

This thread is now 9 pages long and based on an OP who obviously lied about his experience he had in game.

Well done. Perhaps the next "first poster" on Wow/mmorpg.com could help the previous poster out of his gaming misery.

:)))))

Could go for a record in number of pages.... :)))

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 Odd you wrote this with patch 3.1 just published. Having a huge medieval tournament to cater for the "free to play" casual player.

Odd also since achievements have already long replaced "epic gear" in WotLK as do titles in ALL aspects of the game.

Odd because today's Wow has FAR more choices of end game play than the old "single raiding for epics" game you once had .

Odd you don't know the number of 80's you have (you 'think" 4 and "way more 70's" ...). hmm 5 months into the WotLK and having 4(!) lvl 80's and "way more 70's " ?!?!?

Another Mr first poster also with ANOTHER "game killer" remark... with sooo many characters at highest levels. Wow. :)))

Odd.

I was never casual. I'm a stay at home... uh home caretaker? (soon to be wife). Achievements are the bane of my existance, they're like pokemon, I want to collect them all but probably never will. "Epic gear" is still an issue today, and you're kidding yourself if you don't think so. No one wants to do heroics or raid with the scrub in blues/greens (not that I blame them but yeah).

Far more choices? Arena and BGs? I wouldn't even count BGs since most of them require arena points. And you're probably one of the five people in WoW that like arenas. Arenas were a great idea, unfortunely they'll never be balanced.

Want me to count my 80s? My hunter, DK, warrior, and druid. Yep, four. I'd count my 70s but I'd have to log in to do that, with RAF it's stupidly easy to get 60 and 70 isn't that much harder. Why do I have so many 80s? I'm really good at questing, I do the quests once and remember them all. I know all the quests 1-70 on both factions, and all the alliance WOtLK ones (horde WOtLK ick, horde isn't the same since BEs imo).

I'm not trying to kill WoW. I even said if you enjoy it, kudos. I really don't care if you think I'm lying about my characters, I know what my character select screen looks like. I was voicing my opinion about the game. I'm allowed to voice it, and you're allowed to like your game anyway.

I too have been with WOW from the release. I played bonechewer. I made it from level 1-60 and raided as a tank. then 60-70 and raided as a DPS. Much like most new mmorpg games two things happened to kill WOW. The game becuase repetitive and boring. And the pvp systems got screwed in one way or another. Also in wow the people have changed. The game is based off items and not skill now. I mean it always has been but now more than ever. The acheivment systema nd title system are hardly a saviour to that becuase they just support whoever has the most time to play.

To say things short. I played from level 1-71 and started when the game was released. The game went from being pvp and skill based to being based on whoever plays the most. The people with the most free time get the acheivments, the gear, and the titles. I do not like wow anymore either.

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 Odd you wrote this with patch 3.1 just published. Having a huge medieval tournament to cater for the "free to play" casual player.

Odd also since achievements have already long replaced "epic gear" in WotLK as do titles in ALL aspects of the game.

Odd because today's Wow has FAR more choices of end game play than the old "single raiding for epics" game you once had .

Odd you don't know the number of 80's you have (you 'think" 4 and "way more 70's" ...). hmm 5 months into the WotLK and having 4(!) lvl 80's and "way more 70's " ?!?!?

Another Mr first poster also with ANOTHER "game killer" remark... with sooo many characters at highest levels. Wow. :)))

Odd.

 

I was never casual. I'm a stay at home... uh home caretaker? (soon to be wife). Achievements are the bane of my existance, they're like pokemon, I want to collect them all but probably never will. "Epic gear" is still an issue today, and you're kidding yourself if you don't think so. No one wants to do heroics or raid with the scrub in blues/greens (not that I blame them but yeah).

Far more choices? Arena and BGs? I wouldn't even count BGs since most of them require arena points. And you're probably one of the five people in WoW that like arenas. Arenas were a great idea, unfortunely they'll never be balanced.

Want me to count my 80s? My hunter, DK, warrior, and druid. Yep, four. I'd count my 70s but I'd have to log in to do that, with RAF it's stupidly easy to get 60 and 70 isn't that much harder. Why do I have so many 80s? I'm really good at questing, I do the quests once and remember them all. I know all the quests 1-70 on both factions, and all the alliance WOtLK ones (horde WOtLK ick, horde isn't the same since BEs imo).

I'm not trying to kill WoW. I even said if you enjoy it, kudos. I really don't care if you think I'm lying about my characters, I know what my character select screen looks like. I was voicing my opinion about the game. I'm allowed to voice it, and you're allowed to like your game anyway.

No need to react.
 

I just wonder why would a person like you - with such a "playing record" - come in and make a new account to help  an obvious trolling post.

But I still see the obvious same arguments. Like arena balance?

Kill Wow ? You do think that these posts have an influence ???

I suppose these kind of posts show how "unsual" mmorpg.com is.

They amuse me more than ever. ::))))

It is a reunion of invented new accounts to piss on Wow.

Keep up the work guys.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 Odd you wrote this with patch 3.1 just published. Having a huge medieval tournament to cater for the "free to play" casual player.

Odd also since achievements have already long replaced "epic gear" in WotLK as do titles in ALL aspects of the game.

Odd because today's Wow has FAR more choices of end game play than the old "single raiding for epics" game you once had .

Odd you don't know the number of 80's you have (you 'think" 4 and "way more 70's" ...). hmm 5 months into the WotLK and having 4(!) lvl 80's and "way more 70's " ?!?!?

Another Mr first poster also with ANOTHER "game killer" remark... with sooo many characters at highest levels. Wow. :)))

Odd.

 

I was never casual. I'm a stay at home... uh home caretaker? (soon to be wife). Achievements are the bane of my existance, they're like pokemon, I want to collect them all but probably never will. "Epic gear" is still an issue today, and you're kidding yourself if you don't think so. No one wants to do heroics or raid with the scrub in blues/greens (not that I blame them but yeah).

Far more choices? Arena and BGs? I wouldn't even count BGs since most of them require arena points. And you're probably one of the five people in WoW that like arenas. Arenas were a great idea, unfortunely they'll never be balanced.

Want me to count my 80s? My hunter, DK, warrior, and druid. Yep, four. I'd count my 70s but I'd have to log in to do that, with RAF it's stupidly easy to get 60 and 70 isn't that much harder. Why do I have so many 80s? I'm really good at questing, I do the quests once and remember them all. I know all the quests 1-70 on both factions, and all the alliance WOtLK ones (horde WOtLK ick, horde isn't the same since BEs imo).

I'm not trying to kill WoW. I even said if you enjoy it, kudos. I really don't care if you think I'm lying about my characters, I know what my character select screen looks like. I was voicing my opinion about the game. I'm allowed to voice it, and you're allowed to like your game anyway.

No need to react.
 

I just wonder why would a guy like you - with such a "playing record" - come in and make a new account to help  an obvious trolling post.

But I still see the obvious same arguments. Like arena balance?

Kill Wow ? You do think that these posts have an influence ???

I suppose these kind of posts show how "unsual" mmorpg.com is.

They amuse me more than ever. ::))))

 

 

 

You sort of fail... I'm FEMALE, hence not a guy. This isn't a new account, I've had it for awhile to try new MMOs when I get bored. I don't usually bother reading the forums, but I'm trying to stay awake until a reasonable hour after getting like two hours of sleep last night and yeah...
 

You're the one who said I was making a "game killer" post. That was never my intention, but apparently you have reading comprehension problems so I'll let that slide.

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 Odd you wrote this with patch 3.1 just published. Having a huge medieval tournament to cater for the "free to play" casual player.

Odd also since achievements have already long replaced "epic gear" in WotLK as do titles in ALL aspects of the game.

Odd because today's Wow has FAR more choices of end game play than the old "single raiding for epics" game you once had .

Odd you don't know the number of 80's you have (you 'think" 4 and "way more 70's" ...). hmm 5 months into the WotLK and having 4(!) lvl 80's and "way more 70's " ?!?!?

Another Mr first poster also with ANOTHER "game killer" remark... with sooo many characters at highest levels. Wow. :)))

Odd.

 

I was never casual. I'm a stay at home... uh home caretaker? (soon to be wife). Achievements are the bane of my existance, they're like pokemon, I want to collect them all but probably never will. "Epic gear" is still an issue today, and you're kidding yourself if you don't think so. No one wants to do heroics or raid with the scrub in blues/greens (not that I blame them but yeah).

Far more choices? Arena and BGs? I wouldn't even count BGs since most of them require arena points. And you're probably one of the five people in WoW that like arenas. Arenas were a great idea, unfortunely they'll never be balanced.

Want me to count my 80s? My hunter, DK, warrior, and druid. Yep, four. I'd count my 70s but I'd have to log in to do that, with RAF it's stupidly easy to get 60 and 70 isn't that much harder. Why do I have so many 80s? I'm really good at questing, I do the quests once and remember them all. I know all the quests 1-70 on both factions, and all the alliance WOtLK ones (horde WOtLK ick, horde isn't the same since BEs imo).

I'm not trying to kill WoW. I even said if you enjoy it, kudos. I really don't care if you think I'm lying about my characters, I know what my character select screen looks like. I was voicing my opinion about the game. I'm allowed to voice it, and you're allowed to like your game anyway.

No need to react.
 

I just wonder why would a guy like you - with such a "playing record" - come in and make a new account to help  an obvious trolling post.

But I still see the obvious same arguments. Like arena balance?

Kill Wow ? You do think that these posts have an influence ???

I suppose these kind of posts show how "unsual" mmorpg.com is.

They amuse me more than ever. ::))))

 

 

 

You sort of fail... I'm FEMALE, hence not a guy. This isn't a new account, I've had it for awhile to try new MMOs when I get bored. I don't usually bother reading the forums, but I'm trying to stay awake until a reasonable hour after getting like two hours of sleep last night and yeah...
 

You're the one who said I was making a "game killer" post. That was never my intention, but apparently you have reading comprehension problems so I'll let that slide.

??? " I am not trying to kill Wow ".

??? A very odd sentence to use I think.

Perhaps a good night sleep could clear things up.

It was a rather appropriate reply to 'ANOTHER "game killer" remark'. I don't really understand why you have to edit EVERY post of yours, can't you think it through before posting? >.>

I'm sure sleep would help my arguing skills, but I think you need to step back and realize that when people attack WoW they aren't attacking you. If you enjoy it so much why are you wasting your time here defending it when you should be playing it?

if you are sick of wow, chances are you need to try a new genre, right now there are no mmorpgs that come close to wow...wow is the bmw, lexus of mmorpgs....the least amount of bugs, and the easiest to get into and drive....unfortunately there is no diversity in the mmorpg market, it's too fresh, it's like cars, all cars drive, there are no hovercrafts for the consumer to try......eq is a wow clone, there are clone sof each other. Therea re more similarties between every mmorpg then there are differences, that's a fact.....try and dispute it with someone else though if you think otherwise, i'm just saying right now  you can't beat wow on polish and quality, and i reuse to play a game with 10 second lag spurts like eq2 or any other mmorpg, it's like playing tetris with lag, who the fuck wants to do that?

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

It was a rather appropriate reply to 'ANOTHER "game killer" remark'. I don't really understand why you have to edit EVERY post of yours, can't you think it through before posting? >.>

I'm sure sleep would help my arguing skills, but I think you need to step back and realize that when people attack WoW they aren't attacking you. If you enjoy it so much why are you wasting your time here defending it when you should be playing it?

I don't step back because I don't need to.

I am just analysing why people come here and lie about their experience in Wow like the OP did.

Wow needs no defense, but I wonder why people still want to make useless comments in a 250 logged in world wide web forum.

Apparently most go a long way to hate a video game.

Why should I need to take a step back when I hold a not so conveniant mirror in front of their faces?

It could even help. :))))

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

It was a rather appropriate reply to 'ANOTHER "game killer" remark'. I don't really understand why you have to edit EVERY post of yours, can't you think it through before posting? >.>

I'm sure sleep would help my arguing skills, but I think you need to step back and realize that when people attack WoW they aren't attacking you. If you enjoy it so much why are you wasting your time here defending it when you should be playing it?

I don't step back because I don't need to.

I am just analysing why people come here and lie about their experience in Wow like the OP did.

Wow needs no defense, but I wonder why people still want to make useless comments in a 250 logged in world wide web forum.

Apparently most go a long way to hate a video game.

Why should I need to take a step back when I hold a not so conveniant mirror in front of their faces?

It could even help. :))))

 

 

You seem to take it personally that people don't like your game. Just because they don't like it doesn't mean it makes you stupid for liking it, fyi. If someone their comments then they are hardly useless. People seem to think that you either have to love WoW or hate it. There's a huge grey area there.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

It was a rather appropriate reply to 'ANOTHER "game killer" remark'. I don't really understand why you have to edit EVERY post of yours, can't you think it through before posting? >.>

I'm sure sleep would help my arguing skills, but I think you need to step back and realize that when people attack WoW they aren't attacking you. If you enjoy it so much why are you wasting your time here defending it when you should be playing it?

I don't step back because I don't need to.

Right because you are always on the edge of your seat to rush to the defense.

I am just analysing why people come here and lie about their experience in Wow like the OP did.

WOTLK sucked, that was experience I guess I'm a liar as well.

Wow needs no defense, but I wonder why people still want to make useless comments in a 250 logged in world wide web forum.

WoW needs so much defense that you continue to throw the problems out the window. You would be the perfect developer for a game like Darkfall. . Most of what the OP said is pretty solid.

Apparently most go a long way to hate a video game.

It works both ways. You love the game so much you are crawling in every post related to WoW polluting it with your presence.

Why should I need to take a step back when I hold a not so conveniant mirror in front of their faces?

WTF?

It could even help. :))))

You need help.

 

 

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by FadedNovelty

It was a rather appropriate reply to 'ANOTHER "game killer" remark'. I don't really understand why you have to edit EVERY post of yours, can't you think it through before posting? >.>

I'm sure sleep would help my arguing skills, but I think you need to step back and realize that when people attack WoW they aren't attacking you. If you enjoy it so much why are you wasting your time here defending it when you should be playing it?

I don't step back because I don't need to.

I am just analysing why people come here and lie about their experience in Wow like the OP did.

Wow needs no defense, but I wonder why people still want to make useless comments in a 250 logged in world wide web forum.

Apparently most go a long way to hate a video game.

Why should I need to take a step back when I hold a not so conveniant mirror in front of their faces?

It could even help. :))))

 

 

 

You seem to take it personally that people don't like your game. Just because they don't like it doesn't mean it makes you stupid for liking it, fyi. If someone their comments then they are hardly useless. People seem to think that you either have to love WoW or hate it. There's a huge grey area there.

The only people that take it personally here are the Wow haters.

I also often come with arguments which put some nice holes into their theories. (like Wow is no food).

Look you already made 4 posts now. For someone who visited mmorpg.com for years and posting already 4 posts in 1 hour now that's  quite surprising. Grtz.

:))) These are just facts, not taking anything personal.

Also - very surprising I don't see any of the usual visitors of our Wow forums.

Perhaps they are resetting their PC's. :)

WoW is no food? WTF? I got hungry and the CDs looked pretty yummy... now my teeth hurt. o_O

Are you european or something? You have a lot of strange expressions, resetting their PC, not restarting, ect...

Anyway, food for thought: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16137075626&sid=1

Makes me all warm and gooey inside!

cherry flavored WoW is my favorite.

Please stick to the topic and argue the points, not the people.

No duplicate accounts here. 

With a kiss of cherry? Ugh one of the worst commercials ever imo >.>

I like your comment thingy, I was in vent a few months ago and someone said something about el diablo, and some person asked what it meant and before anyone else could say anything I blurted out "like a fighting chicken." Good times!

I think you're the first person on here to get it.

That's rather sad, it was a surprisingly good movie. And this is totally on topic because it was a WoW vent!

I didn't like WoW in the past after 8 months of playing i got bored of the gear grind. Yet now 8 months later I have resubed, and purchased WotLK. It has been great so far even though i have been playing with a friend who has never played the game before and have not had a chance to look at the new content. So I am having some fun playing through the old content.

Every game will get boring and stale regardless of the quality after a long time of playing. When that time comes it is best to just move on and try something new for a while, and maybe you might get the desire to retry the game again in the future. Just coming here and adding to the stack of people who say they hate a game just creates arguements that never lead anywhere. Best to just let it go and find something else you enjoy playing, and leave the fans and the haters to fight the ultimate form of pvp known as the mmo forum.