Originally posted by LogothX

 Kill yourself.

Bit harsh mate. Javac may at times be delusional but I doubt slitting his wrists would do any good. I of course realize you meant it in the good natured spirit of the conversation but good debate can be had without sinking to the levels of the official darkfall forum crowd. Just saying is all.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by kasta

 Personally, I think of it as less of a sandbox and more of a litter box, but that's just me.

You, sir, are a literary genius.

Hey, I want some credit. I did the litterbox joke a long time ago:

Originally posted by indiramourn (3/19/09):
To me all sandboxes are litterboxes. But I am a cat after all.

 

Discuss the idea of expanding the content sometime after they release the game. Since it's still in Beta, I think the discussion is premature.

Originally posted by Forumfall

Seeing how they needed nearly a decade to create an empty contentless unpolished fps game. The website is ugly, outdated and lacks content. They are not showing any presence on the forums either. Payment options that were promised are still not there nearly two months after realease.

 

People often accept lack of content, polish and depth saying that they will work on it and add content. But think of other companies that have more resources, people and experience yet are so slow to fix and add stuff. Does anyone here not see this happening with darkfall? Considering how unprofessional and slow they work I just don't see any major content or even expansions ever happening...

 

Intrestingly the tone on the forums has changed alot to. Die hard fanboys getting down to earth and people unhappy with many things. No matter how you twist and turn it, ganking people and taking their loot gets boring for evryone.

agree with you except the last paragraph, pvp can't get boring if you like pvp, ppl would get bored of CS really easily pvp had no staying power.
 

Though DF does need to add that non pvp content that was promised long ago.

I don't think Darkfall has a chance of even surviving as a game, let-alone worring about content patches or if Aventurine will eventually fix this or that..!

They won't have time!  This game is falling quicker than both Dark & Light or Horizons and probably won't be around threw summer. There just isn't a large enough fanbase to support a crummy game. Yeah, there was a lot of people following this game before Tasos was found out to be a lier, but now that the truth is out, only a hndful of people are even playing this game.

Less as time goes on.

When EvE was launched it had barely any more content in it than DF does now, was buggy, and lacked features. Now it's an extremely game that's still growing some 6 years later.

All DF needs is a core group of players that enjoy the game enough to stick with it, and it'll grow. The same happened to EvE, the same will likely happen with DF.

Myself, I'm enjoying the game. It has it's issues but it's still more fun than anything else I've played lately. EvE is theonly exception.

Originally posted by Zyke

When EvE was launched it had barely any more content in it than DF does now, was buggy, and lacked features. Now it's an extremely game that's still growing some 6 years later.

All DF needs is a core group of players that enjoy the game enough to stick with it, and it'll grow. The same happened to EvE, the same will likely happen with DF.

Myself, I'm enjoying the game. It has it's issues but it's still more fun than anything else I've played lately. EvE is theonly exception.

 

Was EVE in development for 8 years prior to launch? It wasn't.

And once again I am back on the forums cause server crashed....again. Eventhough people insist that you can siege without a server crashing (coughcoughBScough)

Originally posted by Zyke

When EvE was launched it had barely any more content in it than DF does now, was buggy, and lacked features. Now it's an extremely game that's still growing some 6 years later.

All DF needs is a core group of players that enjoy the game enough to stick with it, and it'll grow. The same happened to EvE, the same will likely happen with DF.

Myself, I'm enjoying the game. It has it's issues but it's still more fun than anything else I've played lately. EvE is theonly exception.

 

EVE from it's inception was based on a completly different business model and CCP's success has absolutely no bearing on Aventurine. Who coincidentally, has not met one milestone in it's 8 year history.

No matter how good or bad Darkfall is, Aventurine will not survive because their finances are so in the red and there is no sustainable business model to recoup the money invested. Therefore, the game will undoubtedly go bankrupt within the next few months. Not sure how it was even released, really, with so few people actually supporting this game.

Originally posted by javac 

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Darkfall is based on a 320-cpu server cluster (correction: 320 at release. they may have added more by now). you don't just roll those out in a production capacity in a day or even a couple of weeks. there's physical + software installation, validation, security, backup and redundancy to take care of, plus all the support personnel required to execute same.

 

 

No ... your are right you dont roll them out in a day. But aventurine did not even have a host until two weeks from release. Why ?

Because they were either :

1, Not planning to release because the game is raw or shit themselves over MO later release.

2. They are simply incompetant. "Ohh our MMO wil need some servers wont it". (I can believe this one with everything else this company "does")

3. It all part of making the artifical supply for this game and there turn stile system. (The removed ingame player counter is an example).

Anyways AV are simply made of fail....

Well.. I think aventurine released this product in a state which they could make many updates.

Originally posted by javac

your denial of reality is hilarious:

1) darkfall has been sold out for a month

2) people are still lining up to buy

3) numerous positive & glowing reviews from gaming sites

4) hugely diverse gameplay possiblities

5) largest battles seen in a fantasy MMO

6) second most visted/viewed MMO on mmorpg.com for the past 6 months, second only to WAR and above tons of other far more commercial MMOs and despite zero traditional marketing.

7) small indie development team, developed on tiny budget compared to other MMOs

 

by any objective measure, DF is a massive, groundbreaking success REGARDLESS of what you bitter little kids think of it.

Guys,

Javac is an ingenius troll. His above post illustrates the lengths he'll go to incite a riot or garner massive activity within a thread. His ideas (from one week to the next) countricit themselves, bit no matter because they aren't even heartfelt, but the right post for the right thread, to intenionally stir things up.

Good Job bro..!  Although the cat is out of the bag and newcomers might bite, but you persona here on MMORPG.com has been uncovered.