so shadowbane is closeing all servers as of may1 ..the devs at ubi-soft is not giveing any excuses..just shuting the doors...another perfect pvp mmo ( by far the best ) shut down because the devs at ubi-soft are prolly not makeing any money off their title..and i ask, why did they make it free if it was p2p in the 1st place? the population seems to always go up and servers are getting over crowded..they coulda even added another server..but no..they would rather get baited in with all the other steaming piles of garbadge game titles that want you p2p and suck in money for months upon months and never add anything to keep the title going or prolly adding a expan that would destroy the game totally and then every1 starts wiseing up and seeing that its just yet another clone of a clone and then  they shut those down..just like a revoleing door..all the good games are being sent to gamer heaven when all they need is a lil tweeking or even a re-releace...and imho OU , AO among others could be next to fall if the greedy devs dont make their money... every1 is going to be forced to p2p the looong line of MMO's that have flashy grafix / cartoon char toonz and dull gameplay or maybe even result in MMO death altogether ...indeed its a sad sad day for the people in shadowbane / ubi-soft and IMO there are going to be many more title to add to the list..i will never buy / download another ubi-soft title again and if your currently playing a older style MMO  ....ENJOY IT! because you never know how long its going to last  =(

I thought the day would never come!

This is very sad indeed, I only wish that they had managed to get this game back into the spotlight, it really did have some of the best core development ideas of its time, its only crippling problems being the play control.

Its very sad to see it go.

>,<

they could at least give out the codes to the servers so people can run shadowbane on private servers..but i dont see ubi doing it..i hate them so -_-

Yeah that would be decent of them to do that after they close it, but yeah I dont see them being any more "nice" than they have to be.

Maybe they'll make another game that will blow our minds and will have the spirit of SB in it somewhere.

That is all I can hope for I guess

Originally posted by dinomut05

they could at least give out the codes to the servers so people can run shadowbane on private servers..but i dont see ubi doing it..i hate them so -_-

That software source code is the one of the most valueable things the company owns.

I am sad to hear this.

Had this game just been a little better beta-tested and debugged, it could have really established itself as a good alternative to the pvp of UO that everyone still misses to this day. The character development was great!

There's a lesson here - if a game like SB couldn't make it, a shallow copy of it like DF stands no chance.

Game developers need to step back and re-think the concept of what makes a good pvp game, then get the monetary backing and crew to do it right - they'd be able to capture a strong niche that remains unfilled to this day.....

< sigh >

Originally posted by paulscott

Originally posted by dinomut05

they could at least give out the codes to the servers so people can run shadowbane on private servers..but i dont see ubi doing it..i hate them so -_-

 

That software source code is the one of the most valueable things the company owns.

People wanted this for Endless Ages... but as long as there's at least one person willing to pay, they'll keep that in their pocket to try to make that last buck.

...which makes sense.

Originally posted by dinomut05

they could at least give out the codes to the servers so people can run shadowbane on private servers..but i dont see ubi doing it..i hate them so -_-

It wouldn't help much. The hardware and operating systems Shadowbane servers run on haven't been available for years.  I feel like someone tore down the house I grew up in and built a parking lot. There's no other game like it.

It;d be interesting to know what the reasons behind the closure actually were, maybe someone got their sums wrong somewhere, or the company has problems in other areas & they had to tighten belts & make cuts, all conjecture though till there  is an official response.

I wonder if they considered selling it to an outfit like Gametap?

Originally posted by Hammertime1

I am sad to hear this.

 

Had this game just been a little better beta-tested and debugged, it could have really established itself as a good alternative to the pvp of UO that everyone still misses to this day. The character development was great!

 

There's a lesson here - if a game like SB couldn't make it, a shallow copy of it like DF stands no chance.

Game developers need to step back and re-think the concept of what makes a good pvp game, then get the monetary backing and crew to do it right - they'd be able to capture a strong niche that remains unfilled to this day.....

< sigh >

 

 

I dont like to loose ONE of our three PvP MMOs we have.

But i find it hard to understand why you need to bash DF? EVE and DF is the only ones left. Yoiu should be happy for a company doing a new PvP game.

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Hammertime1

I am sad to hear this.

 

Had this game just been a little better beta-tested and debugged, it could have really established itself as a good alternative to the pvp of UO that everyone still misses to this day. The character development was great!

 

There's a lesson here - if a game like SB couldn't make it, a shallow copy of it like DF stands no chance.

Game developers need to step back and re-think the concept of what makes a good pvp game, then get the monetary backing and crew to do it right - they'd be able to capture a strong niche that remains unfilled to this day.....

< sigh >

 

 

 

I dont like to loose ONE of our three PvP MMOs we have.

But i find it hard to understand why you need to bash DF? EVE and DF is the only ones left. Yoiu should be happy for a company doing a new PvP game.

I don't think he was bashing DF, I think hes just saying that if a game like Shadowbane, which when it came out HEAVILY relied on the people who used to play UO to fill its servers, and infact advertised to that group saying it was its spiritual successor.

Then how can DF, which came a decade after UO, using the same claims as Shadowbane and having nearly the same results too.

He wasn't "bashin" DF, he was saying hes worried for it because the most similar game to it just announced its closure.

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Hammertime1

I am sad to hear this.

 

Had this game just been a little better beta-tested and debugged, it could have really established itself as a good alternative to the pvp of UO that everyone still misses to this day. The character development was great!

 

There's a lesson here - if a game like SB couldn't make it, a shallow copy of it like DF stands no chance.

Game developers need to step back and re-think the concept of what makes a good pvp game, then get the monetary backing and crew to do it right - they'd be able to capture a strong niche that remains unfilled to this day.....

< sigh >

 

 

 

I dont like to loose ONE of our three PvP MMOs we have.

But i find it hard to understand why you need to bash DF? EVE and DF is the only ones left. Yoiu should be happy for a company doing a new PvP game.

I not inclined to agree that he's bashing per say, but maybe he's making a statement of the current market trends.  Either way, I believe there's room in the current market for successful MMO's w/ primary focus on pvp I'm sure.  A game doesn't have to reach the pop of WoW to be considered sucessful, so his analogy may perhaps be outdated, and taking SB into account, that mmo has been out for so many years, so it's sort of difficult standpoint he makes about it's failure.  Doesn't seem like a failure if it's been operating for so many years now, but alas all good things eventually come to an end imo.
 

Originally posted by hidden1 

I'm not inclined to agree that he's bashing per say, but maybe he's making a statement of the current market trends.  Either way, I believe there's room in the current market for successful MMO's w/ primary focus on pvp I'm sure.  A game doesn't have to reach the pop of WoW to be considered sucessful, so his analogy may perhaps be outdated, and taking SB into account, that mmo has been out for so many years, so it's sort of difficult standpoint he makes about it's failure.  Doesn't seem like a failure if it's been operating for so many years now, but alas all good things eventually come to an end imo.
 

SB's decline was a long and painful one, going from P2P to F2P made the community cringe with the knowledge that this game was probably on its suicide watch.

Ironic... if DF had come out when it was suposed to it would have released around when Shadow Bane did.

Anyway I really think that DF might have issues when its full released and they will be similar to SB's issues, but ultimately they are very different games, just they have striking similarities that begs comparison.

Sorry for the butchered spelling.

 All I can say is its about time that miscarriage was taken off life support. I followed SB for years before release, watched Ubisoft take over, "market it" into a pile of crap, and then watched the aftermath of exploits, bugs, and general BS like a single person owning several whole cities (something that was never supposed to be possible). The game went f2p and of course attracted a following of slavering F2P kiddos who of course think P2P is some sort of evil mongering devil devised by the Jews to rob them of their moneyz. I often wondered why they even bothered going the F2P route given how little interest there was in the game itself due to its age and numerous failings, considering anyone who did pop on was unlikely to actually put up money for anything. And finally, everything has reached its logical conclusion. Now all that can be done is to hope developers learn from the hype train and failure that was Shadowbane and that the rest of us can forget this abomination of excelent concept and aborted execution existed.

thats a bad news 

Another one bites the dust...

Honestly, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did as a F2P game. I considered installing it just a couple months ago to see what it was like. Glad I didn't now...