"First MMO in massive 3D,"

 Meridian. Wrong.

"with large handcrafted zones,"

Wrong or weasel worde at best. "large" and "hand crafted" are nebulous.

"introduced the questing system"

Never got your shield in UO, or the kill XX of YY quests eh? Wrong again. 

"that was used throughout MMOs until a simpler dilluted version from WoW replaced it,"

WoW's quest system was a "dilluted" form of EQs? ROFLMAO. It was like EQ's but only better if you don't like the endless grind. As it's one of the unique things WoW gave: effective-quest based level progression from level one to end game. 

"class level based system"

Never played any MUDs, huh? I'm not sure I'm giving EQ any uniqueness points for stealing an idea from someone who stole the idea, who stole the idea, who stole the idea, who stole the idea from Gygax.

"turn based combat with styles,"

Turn based combat?? What? LOL. Kid, did you take your meds this morning? All of them? Try the whole bottle next time.

"massive raids"

Nope. Even UO had them for control of territory. But you are really close here. What you need to add to make this an "acceptable" inclusion is it was the first to have SCRIPTED raids. 

"loot based gameplay,"

Not true. Countless muds were far more loot oriented. 

"it was the template from which almost all MMOs followed."

But it copied everything that came before it? So again, back to freakin Gygax on this train to nowhere.  

"The only MMOs before it were Ultima Online and Merdidian 59, which were VASTLY different games.'
 

You never heard of  MUDs, huh? Gee that explains a lot.

I'll give you credit for two unique things you listed. The rest are completely wrong, two partial wrong or worded poorly. 

I already listed one unique WoW feature above, the quest based leveling.

And I'll add the auction system on top of that.

I'll add instance-based raid content.

Non-guild related  PvP ranking system.

PvP gear acquisition exclusively obtained via PvP more(as) effective than PvE gear.

Unique player abilities obtained via crafting profession progression only.

Entirely script-based non-raid boosses/instances.

One or two if these I'd hae to check the MMO timeline, but pretty sure they are all correct. Far more than the two you listed. I gues EQ wasn't the bastioned of unqueness you mistakenly believed it was, nor WoW such a clone. You basically want to ignore anything unique WoW did, or are entirely ignorant of it, and then out the other side of your mother, laud EQ for copying things that had already been done.

Seven versus two, and I've been pretty generous. And it's not that I actually believe WoW was that much more unique or innovative than EQ, it's just that you don't know WTF you are talking about nor the WoW hatorade, ignorant peanut gallery that spawned you.

I can't believe noone mentioned Planetside being the most fun. It IS an MMO right? Just another one Sony ruined. I was totally addicted to it for a few years until the Big Friggin Robots and caves. The thing that gets me is how much better it was compared to Halo 1 or 2....  thousand times better!

Originally posted by eight675309

 

"First MMO in massive 3D,"

 Meridian. Wrong.

Meridian was very VERY small. 

 

"with large handcrafted zones,"

Wrong or weasel worde at best. "large" and "hand crafted" are nebulous.

 

"introduced the questing system"

Never got your shield in UO, or the kill XX of YY quests eh? Wrong again. 

Quests in UO were an afterthought, and there were basically none in the game, more were patched in after the success of EverQuest.

"that was used throughout MMOs until a simpler dilluted version from WoW replaced it,"

WoW's quest system was a "dilluted" form of EQs? ROFLMAO. It was like EQ's but only better if you don't like the endless grind. As it's one of the unique things WoW gave: effective-quest based level progression from level one to end game. 

 

"class level based system"

Never played any MUDs, huh? I'm not sure I'm giving EQ any uniqueness points for stealing an idea from someone who stole the idea, who stole the idea, who stole the idea, who stole the idea from Gygax.

Yes, because a 3D MMO is completely identical to text based games. EverQuest gets absolutely no points for bringing that to a massive scale! 

"turn based combat with styles,"

Turn based combat?? What? LOL. Kid, did you take your meds this morning? All of them? Try the whole bottle next time.

"massive raids"

Nope. Even UO had them for control of territory. But you are really close here. What you need to add to make this an "acceptable" inclusion is it was the first to have SCRIPTED raids. 

Battles in Ultima Online between players != massive scripted PvE encounters involving several hundred people.

"loot based gameplay,"

Not true. Countless muds were far more loot oriented. 

Again, no real MMO in a 3D world had done this. MUD != MMO. That's like saying Zelda wasn't ground breaking because dungeons had been used in text based games before then. 

"it was the template from which almost all MMOs followed."

But it copied everything that came before it? So again, back to freakin Gygax on this train to nowhere.  

"The only MMOs before it were Ultima Online and Merdidian 59, which were VASTLY different games.'
 

You never heard of  MUDs, huh? Gee that explains a lot.

Once again, something you seem to epic fail at, MUDS != MMOs

If you want to compare the difference between EverQuest and WoW, and then EverQuest with an ancient MUD, maybe then you'll see the light. Doing everything graphically and in 3D, was a revolution to the industry. The jump from EQ to WoW was a just from... 3D to.... 3D.. oh wow they really didn't do anything did they.

I'll give you credit for two unique things you listed. The rest are completely wrong, two partial wrong or worded poorly. 

I already listed one unique WoW feature above, the quest based leveling.

And I'll add the auction system on top of that.

Auction system was widespread in many games before WoW, from EQ, to SWG, to Dark Age of Camelot. 

I'll add instance-based raid content.

Raid instances were first used in EverQuest and Dark Age of Camelot, once again, another fail there.

Non-guild related  PvP ranking system.

Again, Dark Age of Camelot

PvP gear acquisition exclusively obtained via PvP more(as) effective than PvE gear.

Wow, I think you may have found one under a rock somewhere. Too bad its an insignificant feature that has no real bearing on the game and wouldn't convince anyone to play it over another game, and not to mention, they didn't even have it for a long time after the game released. 

Unique player abilities obtained via crafting profession progression only.

 

Entirely script-based non-raid boosses/instances.

EverQuest, Asheron's Call, Dark Age of Camelot, wow what game didn't have this? 

 

 You didn't do so well there. 

Originally posted by eight675309

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by eight675309

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by eight675309

Originally posted by SignusM

 World of Warcraft. Played it for 4 hours and never again.  Most unoriginal uninspired game I've ever played. 

 

I take it you've been trolling on the net much longer than you've been playing MMORPGs. Haha.

 

Been playing games since 2001, sorry to dissapoint you. I played WoW and it was just a McDonald's happy meal version of EverQuest. Not a single unique feature, so I felt no need to play it. 

 

You can say the same for 99% of MMORPGs, including EQ. Try actually playing them, learning MMORPG history, or go back under your bridge.

lol, EverQuest was ground breaking when it hit the market, that's why it became such a success, but you can go on trying to avoid the issue if you want. All MMOs build on top of one another, that is true, but each is supposed to contribute something unique. All the old MMOs did. DAoC built on EverQuest by introducing the best PvP system to date with large siges and fights in the frontier. Asheron's Call built on some of the ideas from Ultima Online and EQ, with plenty of unqiue ideas and features of their own.

 

WoW had... nothing. Not a single innovation, new hook, new feature, no reason for any veteran to play it over something else unless they just wanted a very very very very easygoing game with no risk, and all reward. I didn't like raiding in EQ, wouldn't have liked it any better in a toddler's version of the game either. 

 

LOL, kid. Go back to wacking the ol' pud, cause MMO's aren't your thing. By your own admission, you started playing MMOs  a maximum of, what,  8 years ago? EQ offered nothing that wasn't already done before, It was not "groundbreaking" in uniqueness, which you apparently value so highly. I think it's more than obvious at this point, you're not only a troll, but a very ignorant one, but then that probably comes with the territory. You go ahead and list all the "unique" things EQ brought to the MMO gaming world. I'll even match you 1 for 1 vis-a-vis WoW,

 

You can like or dislike one or other game, but saying that WoW is as innovative as EQ is just... retarded.

Originally posted by SignusM

WoW is something no one can escape. Everyone talks about it, everyone knows someone who plays it, I know all the game mechanics through and through and have absolutely no interest in a game like WoW, because it offers nothing I haven't seen done better in another MMO. Seems I won the argument. Playing EverQuest for the first time, it was a brand new type of game I had no idea how it all worked, WoW, by comparison, after 5 minutes I knew what kind of game it was and knew I didn't want to play it. Know how I knew? Combination of it not having anything new to call its own innovation for the industry, and all the people I knew that played it. 

Well Wow does something better than any other fantasy mmorpg on the market today...

And that's the unmatched impressive fluid responsive controls of your avatars.

A pity for you that's about 99% of the total playing experience in any mmorpg. Controlling your avatar when playing for 1000's of hours in a world where background graphics loading was taking to new standards.

Living in a REAL world you adventure in without hampering animation and since WotLK with CHANGING worlds without a grafics loading screen.

That's THE fun in any videogame btw.

How about being able to beat that :))))) Mr 5 minutes of play

To the OP:

Your question about "most fun" and "most boring" is a question that can be answered with ease.

It is a question about "focus". Focus for details, playing options, player motivation.

A game which is being based on focus instead of features is always the game with the most gaming fun.

Since all video games are centered around gameplay focus, it is obvious the game with the most focus always wins the most hearts.

And we all know who won this battle....

Originally posted by Zorndorf

To the OP:

Your question about "most fun" and "most boring" is a question that can be answered with ease.

It is a question about "focus". Focus for details, playing options, player motivation.

A game which is being based on focus instead of features is always the game with the most gaming fun.

 

Since all video games are centered around gameplay focus, it is obvious the game with the most focus always wins the most hearts.

And we all know who won this battle....

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Calintz333

Actually If you bother to read the post you would clearly see that The main Reason I dislike SoTNW was because it lacked any kind of challenge to level up. You sat your chracters in one spot and did nothing.

 

Actually i did bother to read your post. I was refering to one of your previous "reviews" where you complained the game "Did not havz enuf go kill XX quests!!11"

1: If you find any mmorpg of today "Challenging", you probably need to drop gaming right now. No MMORPG is challenging.

2: If you let your characters sit in one spot, you are seriously damaging your progression pace. You can easily level 20x as fast by playing the game. Sword of the New World is build around killing multiple enemies with AoE attack, not killing them one by one. It's downright shocking you got that far in the game and completely missed that concept.

Actually it is not amazing he did not get that far.  By the time you get decent AOE skills most are bored out of their mind.  I doubt many players stick around that long.   The problem with Sotnw is that it is much like AoC, you are channeled everywhere there are no open vistas.  Now that is boring.

the most boring for me, 4story/ PWI, and rappelz.

most fun: GW, RYZOM, WOW( played 3 years straight).

had fun in WOW while it lasted for me, boring as heck now so i quit it recently.

Worst for me:

D&D (as I am a solo player mostly and the game was not catering for that style)

Neocron (as I was really enjoying it but the development just dried up and it left me very disappointed

vanguard ( I tried it at launch and just could not find anything to attract me - no lore)

Best for me

EQ2 ( I never got to play the original but played this at beat and for 4 years. Great Lore, great people)

Eve (played this for 3 years from launch, something totally new and damn fine looking)

Wow (I am a big lore fan and this game has buckets from my Warcraft 3 RTS days)

Originally posted by judex99

You can like or dislike one or other game, but saying that WoW is as innovative as EQ is just... retarded.

 

WOW innovated in execution overall.  It innovated how much better a feature and in turn a game can be crafted.  WOW invented or innovated the word polish and MMO in the same sentence.  There simply was no such thing as a polished MMO before WOW came along. 

WOW's 3D world wasn't innovative but its attention to detail and how every area had purpose without filler, was the innovation.  You just can't compare the artistic design of EQ's world to WOW's.  Its not even a contest.  EQ was good for its time, but looking back now...kind of sad.

Other feature like skills/abilities.  Every MMO has them, but WOW made them all better.  Charge/Intercept for example was never used in a MMO before.  The totem system, although used in AC2 earlier was far more advanced in WOW.  The interuption system was more instant and intutive than previous MMOs. 

Other MMOs used WASD before, but no game controls as smoothly and precise as WOW.  None.

NO MMO had such a customizable interface.

No MMO had such as exaustive quest system.  EQ2 was the closest but it still palled in comparison.  NO MMO to date has the variety and depth of quests WOW has.  WIth the new ones in WOTLK, no MMO even comes close.

No MMO had a world where you could go from zone to zone on a flying mount without hitting a loading screen.

Its all the little things.  No one had anything as advanced as AV.  There were battlegrounds in DAOC, but none had the depth of AV with giant boss summons, burning towers, multiple objectives, ect.   No capture the flag or node control mechanics before WOW.

No one has used phasing tech like Blizzard has.

WOW's skill trees were carry overs from Diablo.  Blizzard borrowed from themselves.

EQ was first to do a lot of things in the MMO world, because it was one of the 1st.  It had to be innovative.  But all its features were just carry overs from single player games.  Putting all those features together online was the innovation.  WOW is in the same boat.  Most of its features are from other games, but all of them together in one game is the innovation.

Boring : Eve.  Playing it felt like trying to have fun playing a spreadsheet.

Originally posted by SignusM

 You didn't do so well there. 

7 versus 2. Umm, you might want to think on that a bit longer. MUDs were MMOs, some of them anyway, saying they weren't, in order to come to a bogus conclusion, is the hallmark of someone who has entirely conceded the point .By the way, the server I played on in EQ never had over a thousand people on it, and only rarely broke 500. This is less than several MUDs I've seen. You see, your whole argument rests on several completely bogus claims. MMO's did not just begin with EQ, many MUDs are MMOs, EQ copied everything that came before and injected next to nothing original into the history of MMOs.

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

I've played WoW and Runes of Magic. They are extremely similar. Extremely...with the exception that Runes of Magic allows you to dual-class.

I ended up leaving those game relatively quick. They were boring for me.

These games took all the work out of adventuring. You don't have to search for an adventure, just click the person with the gold exclamation point over his head.

What ends up happening is that you become like everyone else. What I hate the worst is that you can simply target the person and from that point on, you'll hit him.

Lastly, I find it ridiculous that you can "hide" in plain sight.

Anyhow, I gave each game about two months. I returned to World of Warcraft to give The Burning Crusade two months. I decided not to even try Wrath of the Lich King.

Runes of Magic, in my opinion, was better than WoW (probably because I didn't have to pay a dime for it), but once you realize that you will never beat a player who "Shops" for his stuff, you realize that the game is pointless. At that point, it's just a shell game.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

Good luck finding masses of people saying WOW is boring besides bitter hate mongers.  However, professional paid critics who even enjoy Eve say its boring and slow.  Its in the reviews.  You'd have to be pretty naive even if you love Eve to say it can't be boring at times, esspecially for the mass majority that are instantly turned off by it.   WOW has attracted people who NEVER were interested in MMOs before.  That makes it far from boring.

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

The OP is asking what game is the most boring for you.

Any mmo on the market can become boring from time to time but to say its the most boring game they ever played? thats a troll/hater im sorry.

This forum is notorious for having fanbois attack other game forums like rabid dogs spreading misinformation with bogus reviews, bumping negative threads with alt accounts and just straight up flaming for reaction. That's what this thread has become.

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

 

Good luck finding masses of people saying WOW is boring besides bitter hate mongers.  However, professional paid critics who even enjoy Eve say its boring and slow.  Its in the reviews.  You'd have to be pretty naive even if you love Eve to say it can't be boring at times, esspecially for the mass majority that are instantly turned off by it.   WOW has attracted people who NEVER were interested in MMOs before.  That makes it far from boring.

 

Generating interest in a game does not mean it isn't boring. This isn't a very good argument for anything except to say that WoW is pretty popular - but so were New Kids on The Block...I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Boredom is subjective and for many people WoW is boring. Likewise for EvE. But trying to say that I can't personally find a game fun (see thread topic) because reviewers say it's boring, or that I can't find a game boring because it has a lot of first-time subs doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

Well, it is all a matter of opinions of course. Atlantica and sword of the new world are the ones that really didn't work for me.

But other loves them of course, so I wont say that they are bad games or anything but not in my taste.

Originally posted by donmaximo

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

 

Good luck finding masses of people saying WOW is boring besides bitter hate mongers.  However, professional paid critics who even enjoy Eve say its boring and slow.  Its in the reviews.  You'd have to be pretty naive even if you love Eve to say it can't be boring at times, esspecially for the mass majority that are instantly turned off by it.   WOW has attracted people who NEVER were interested in MMOs before.  That makes it far from boring.

 

 

Generating interest in a game does not mean it isn't boring. This isn't a very good argument for anything except to say that WoW is pretty popular - but so were New Kids on The Block...I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Boredom is subjective and for many people WoW is boring. Likewise for EvE. But trying to say that I can't personally find a game fun (see thread topic) because reviewers say it's boring, or that I can't find a game boring because it has a lot of first-time subs doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

And so was Elvis, the Beatles, U2 and the Rolling Stones and not too many people who understand music blast them.  Ussually those that would consider any of those amazingly popular artists boring or crappy are laughed out of serious discussion.  I'll let YOU draw your own conclusions.  Just because something is popular and YOU don't like it, doesn't mean you compare it to the lowest form of something else thats popular.  You compare it against something thats actually similar.  Not many consider New kids on the Block amazing artists.  They had a couple of catchy songs.  They were mostly marketed performers, short lived and not quite as good as other more succesful and MORE popular and influential boy bands.   WOW will be anything but short lived and its as influential as any MMO ever designed.  Any new MMO after 2004 hasn't exactly copied EQ or UO or DAOC.  They're all been unfluenced by WOW.  MMOs that came out BEFORE WOW have actually changed to compete with it.  

Of course a person can find anything boring, but lets get real here.  One game is known for bring interesting and unique, yet boring.  WOW and boring just don't go hand in hand.  It was designed as the anti-boring MMO;)  But hey, its all personal perference.  I didn't call Eve boring just because I think so.  Its pretty common knowledge that its boring for most people. 

Most Boring: EVE, WoW, FFXI

I tried to like EVE I really did, just could not get out of that 7-14 day trial.

WoW was okay at first, then it became predictable, it is the definition of mediocrity - Blizzards next MMO better take some risks.
Yes above poster, WoW is BORING - you sure love backing your opinion up with the lowest common denominator like it matters

FFXI, I actually enjoyed my second time through when I got to level 35 as a THF, once I hit that though suddenly being the "backstab guy" meant I should get some new armor to please the crowd. The game is ok as long as you're occupied with progression of some sort, waiting for a group that you never get into helps you realize how seriously masochistic the game is.

Most fun: Asheron's Call - the best magic system, the best PvP... a seamless world that you can run from one end to the other without a loading screen.. oh and while you're in the middle of nowhere maybe you'll find a special mob or a dungeon that no one else knows about... ah good times
 

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by donmaximo

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by JGMIII

Alot of haters in this thread.

People saying Eve and WoW are the most boring MMOs ever for them are strickly singling out each games fanbois on this site for a reaction.

For me the Most boring MMO experience that wasn't a f2p mmo was probably SWG (recent version) I just couldn't have a good time with the horrid combat and benny hill running.

Best for me was my first MMO UO, I can never get that feeling back but im also not so stuck on the Nostalgia that i think it was the best ever for me.

Currently Eve is the best overall game that I have ever played.

This is all my opinion of course.

 

 

You don't agree with them, so they must be lying.  No matter how many people say Eve is boring, they are all simply trolls.  Eve is about as much fun as sorting pebbles by size and color, and a lot less rewarding. ;)

 

Good luck finding masses of people saying WOW is boring besides bitter hate mongers.  However, professional paid critics who even enjoy Eve say its boring and slow.  Its in the reviews.  You'd have to be pretty naive even if you love Eve to say it can't be boring at times, esspecially for the mass majority that are instantly turned off by it.   WOW has attracted people who NEVER were interested in MMOs before.  That makes it far from boring.

 

 

Generating interest in a game does not mean it isn't boring. This isn't a very good argument for anything except to say that WoW is pretty popular - but so were New Kids on The Block...I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Boredom is subjective and for many people WoW is boring. Likewise for EvE. But trying to say that I can't personally find a game fun (see thread topic) because reviewers say it's boring, or that I can't find a game boring because it has a lot of first-time subs doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

 

And so was Elvis, the Beatles, U2 and the Rolling Stones and not too many people who understand music blast them.  Ussually those that would consider any of those amazingly popular artists boring or crappy are laughed out of serious discussion.  I'll let YOU draw your own conclusions.  Just because something is popular and YOU don't like it, doesn't mean you compare it to the lowest form of something else thats popular.  You compare it against something thats actually similar.  Not many consider New kids on the Block amazing artists.  They had a couple of catchy songs.  They were mostly marketed performers, short lived and not quite as good as other more succesful and MORE popular and influential boy bands.   WOW will be anything but short lived and its as influential as any MMO ever designed.  Any new MMO after 2004 hasn't exactly copied EQ or UO or DAOC.  They're all been unfluenced by WOW.  MMOs that came out BEFORE WOW have actually changed to compete with it.  

Of course a person can find anything boring, but lets get real here.  One game is known for bring interesting and unique, yet boring.  WOW and boring just don't go hand in hand.  It was designed as the anti-boring MMO;)  But hey, its all personal perference.  I didn't call Eve boring just because I think so.  Its pretty common knowledge that its boring for most people. 

I think you missed my point.

Though I'll admit that my NKOTB and WoW comparison was a little cheeky - so touche on that one. 

That being said: I never once stated I didn't like WoW. In fact,  I played WoW for 5 years and enjoyed it quite a bit. However, as my tastes matured I found that it became extremely boring and moved on to EvE. Also, New Kids on The Block (80 Mil + in 12+ years) is the second most succesfull "pop boy band" ever, only beaten by Backstreet Boys (100 Mil + in 16+ years) (I didn't include Boyz II Men or Jackson 5 as they're different genres, but even if I did KNOTB is still in the top 4). Further, 12 years is hardly short lived - so I don't think that I'm comparing it to the lowest form of something popular.

That leads to the fact that you kind of contradict yourself in your assertions. You are defending an objective view-point of video game "fun factor" by refering to "professional paid critics" yet your analogy is dripping with your own personal bias towards New Kids on The Block. If we go with "professional" stats, I'd say my comparison is pretty fair.

But, all of that aside - the topic of this thread is subjective: What has been the most boring MMO you have ever played / tried to play? Not the wors(t), just the most boring to actually PLAY! Which has been the most fun to PLAY?
 

You tried to blast someone's personal opinion (which is what this thread is about) by dragging your "paid critics" into it. I was simply pointing that out.

It's irrelevant what most people think. This isn't a thread about what most people think, it's about personal taste - so I stand by my argument that your previous statement about what critics think of EvE or WoW has no bearing here.

What game have I had my most boring moment while playing: EVE

What game has been the most fun to play: EVE

Now if you are talking long term boredom I would have to say WoW. The last week before I quite was pure boredom hell. A close second in this would be City of Heroes which hit a bad bore stretch and got me to leave.

EVE in fairness has had the single most boring instances but they are usually not more than one day and then I get excited about something new.

Most boring: EVE and MXO  (not into sci-fi I guess)  Although I am looking to play Fallen Earth when it comes out.

Most fun:  EQ just becuase it was my first I think. I really like Vanguard it just does not have the support to keep my interest.