Originally posted by Skuz

Personally I think they released the trial a little too early, I'm holding off till after the next patch goes live before I try it, since it's quite a major revamp of many core gameplay elements.

True! I'm a test-live player myself, so I can say with certainty that the changes are major.

Recommending people thats in no rush to not "spend" the trial before the patch.

Originally posted by motorthor

This game is at its best at lvl 50+ that is when it all starts! ..as long as you play it as an MMORPG, which it is.

Totally agree, and I just can't see why AoC shouldn't qualify as a mmorpg just as much as any other mmorpg around. That's nothing more than just another empty argument for bashing a game, which appearently is the main reason why many people stick at these boards. There is plenty of things to do both for soloing and grouping, you can even scale the "normal " solo content to fit for groups.

I quit shortly after launch due to lack of levling content, but since this is fixed now, I've resub'ed and really enjoy. I find AoC's storylines, artwork and animations the best in its class, the sum of it gives me the immersion I'm looking for in a mmorpg. I've still left to explore the endgame, but as far as I can see, AoC has plenty of it compared to other mmo's only 8 months after release.

This game is as good or as as bad as any game in the industry at the moment, add to that with the amazing graphics and animation and the combat system you are on to a winner.

The release of the 1.05 patch will address the itemisation  and will bring this game to a front row contender as one of the best MMOs currently available.

Granted the poor release alienated a lot of people, but that is in the past now, it would in every players best interest to try the game again, or risk losing out on a great experience.

With regards the trial it is strange that they released it before the itemisation patch, but apprently it was discussed at length at FUNCOM and they made the desicion to roll, maybe due to the Easter holidays, who knows.

As a current player, and someone who played at launch and off again on again throughout this games life, I fail to understand how fixing the stability turned this game from a mass exodus into "best mmo ever!!!11!!!", because you knew from the start they were going to stabilize it eventually. I guess it speaks more to the current MMO playerbase than the game IMO.

That being said, it's a good thing the Free Trial is out. Now people will be able to play and make decisions themselves without having to depend on reviews and and fanboys/haters of the game when making a purchasing decision. Quite honestly, this game isn't a top tier MMO, nor is it a turd sandwich, it's really very  "meh". Friends play it, and so will I. Now I don't have to worry about telling people to stay away when they would have liked the game or telling them to buy when they end up hating the game, now I can just say "go play the trial".

Seriously, people thinking about playing the game, don't listen to any of these fanboys/haters, because the reality is somewhere in between. Try the game, and if you like it, PLAY IT 

My post in this thread got a warning for flaming. Is mmorpg finally being moderated? If it is it's about God damned time and I gladly accept my warning. If it's just a fluke happening I don't give a shit if they ban me. They might be trying to fix up this place though. I'm giving them the benefit of doubt.

I just hope the mods moderate obvious attempts at trolling as well. The OPs first post is in my opinion considering his history.

Originally posted by baconator616

As a current player, and someone who played at launch and off again on again throughout this games life, I fail to understand how fixing the stability turned this game from a mass exodus into "best mmo ever!!!11!!!", because you knew from the start they were going to stabilize it eventually. I guess it speaks more to the current MMO playerbase than the game IMO.

That being said, it's a good thing the Free Trial is out. Now people will be able to play and make decisions themselves without having to depend on reviews and and fanboys/haters of the game when making a purchasing decision. Quite honestly, this game isn't a top tier MMO, nor is it a turd sandwich, it's really very  "meh". Friends play it, and so will I. Now I don't have to worry about telling people to stay away when they would have liked the game or telling them to buy when they end up hating the game, now I can just say "go play the trial".

Seriously, people thinking about playing the game, don't listen to any of these fanboys/haters, because the reality is somewhere in between. Try the game, and if you like it, PLAY IT 

Well i doubt anyone said it was the best mmo ever. I said it is as good or as bad as any mmo out there.

These are the best MMOs out at the moment:

EQ2, LOTROL, WOW, WAR, VG, EveOnline, Lineage2, D&D etc.

These are the top tier MMOs and AoC can easily compete with any of them, they may have more content then Aoc but that comes with age.

Btw Howarddb, i got a warning as well, and i share all your thoughts!

Its pretty amazing what a total failure AoC was at release when they fix the itemization one year after.

That only shows that Funcom released one year too early.

Originally posted by MoLoK_

Its pretty amazing what a total failure AoC was at release when they fix the itemization one year after.

 

That only shows that Funcom released one year too early.

"fix the itmeisation" is a misnomer as the itemiastion was not broken on release, just not designed the way people liked.

Hence the re-design now. But yeah they did release early, as do many other mmos.

Age of Conan

It really isn't a good game at all, but it couldn't a good game if you look at it from a different angle.

The game is heavily guild based. What you need to do is raid everyday, craft and harvest, and have guild vs guild PvP. Then perhaps you'll have some fun, as for me, I think that's a waste of time so I'm definitely not going to do it.

Originally posted by motorthor

Zones and instances is the price you pay for the graphics in a game like this, too many polygons to handle an open world. Would be nice to never see a loading screen but its not doable yet, I don't find it as troubling as you though. This don't make grouping any harder, zones or not, you'll have to travel to your group anyway.

Since you have so big interest in this game I guess you know that travel is made a lot easier than it was at launch, with wagoners taking you to the zone you want from different traveling hubs. You say this becomes a single player game if you have no guild, I don't get that, its easy to get a group to do whatever you want to do and just about everyone has a guild. The community has come a long way since you left.

Yes, subscriptions fell like s tone after launch and I was one of those who left and I was just as pissed as you still are (talk about holding  a grudge haha). The main thing here is that the game has improved a lot and its still improving. Players are coming back, not  a landslide but its steadily rising, I SEE THIS INGAME!

This game is at its best at lvl 50+ that is when it all starts! ..as long as you play it as an MMORPG, which it is.

I call BS, Vanguard has an open world and nearly as good of graphics as AoC.  Hyboria wouldn't need to be 100% open and seamless, but the fact that it has more zones than EQ2 (and THATS saying a lot) makes it an instanced CORPG. 

Agricola is spot on with his assessment of AoC.  They would need to at least double the size of each zone to get me back as a customer.  There is zero sense of exploration, zero sense of immersion and zero sense of a massive community. 

They can polish it all they want, and add updates all they want, but those seeking a true MMORPG will not find it in AoC.

Originally posted by Dis_Ordur

Originally posted by motorthor

Zones and instances is the price you pay for the graphics in a game like this, too many polygons to handle an open world. Would be nice to never see a loading screen but its not doable yet, I don't find it as troubling as you though. This don't make grouping any harder, zones or not, you'll have to travel to your group anyway.

Since you have so big interest in this game I guess you know that travel is made a lot easier than it was at launch, with wagoners taking you to the zone you want from different traveling hubs. You say this becomes a single player game if you have no guild, I don't get that, its easy to get a group to do whatever you want to do and just about everyone has a guild. The community has come a long way since you left.

Yes, subscriptions fell like s tone after launch and I was one of those who left and I was just as pissed as you still are (talk about holding  a grudge haha). The main thing here is that the game has improved a lot and its still improving. Players are coming back, not  a landslide but its steadily rising, I SEE THIS INGAME!

This game is at its best at lvl 50+ that is when it all starts! ..as long as you play it as an MMORPG, which it is.

 

I call BS, Vanguard has an open world and nearly as good of graphics as AoC.  Hyboria wouldn't need to be 100% open and seamless, but the fact that it has more zones than EQ2 (and THATS saying a lot) makes it an instanced CORPG. 

Agricola is spot on with his assessment of AoC.  They would need to at least double the size of each zone to get me back as a customer.  There is zero sense of exploration, zero sense of immersion and zero sense of a massive community. 

They can polish it all they want, and add updates all they want, but those seeking a true MMORPG will not find it in AoC.

Ehm Vangurds graphics do not compare at all, before resubing to AoC I dl'ed and played the trial of Vanguard, also WOW, EQ2 and LOTRO btw. I played WOW and EQ2 from release just to mention it.

By this date Conan is the only MMO that appeals to me, sure, I want the zones to be larger too but I dont agree with your personal assessment of how huge a zone must be before it turns from an mmorpg to a corpg (this seems to be the ONLY thing you put into the definition).

Like many other good games AoC is a niche game (for now), one of the main reasons I prefer it is that I'm sick of high fantasy, don't want to see another elf ever again. Though, the big diference here is that I wish those games ALL LUCK and I want them to succeed, its not good for future MMO business that so many games fail. Even if i "wasted" money on games I didn't like I'm not at their forums spewing hate every day, or ever, like some people that you praise for good assessement here.

Its all flavour, don't like the taste, dont eat it. This doesn't mean that people should dedicate their life (like someone here) to try and make as few as possible try this dish :) Luckily there is a trial out so noone has to take anyones word for anything.

Originally posted by Malthros

Originally posted by dunesw64

Originally posted by finaticd

The PvP system was peretty lame. I'm not sure what they are oing to do with gear but they best not add damage as this game is a two shot fest atm.  It is lenear for the most part from 1-80.

 

You got to level 80 in 7 days? Has the trial even been going on for 7 days? Judging by your comments and your sig, you're a career AoC troll.

 

I don't think it'd be hard to get level 80 in 7 days, espeically if you spend some time looking to see where good spots are to level, or if you have help.

This may be true, but strips most of the best things that Conan has to offer. If you rush it and ignore most of the Content then you might find yourself , as so many others, at the endgame which is highly expandable still and not yet very appealing. Its the detailed quests in between that spice up the game.

Originally posted by Skuz

Personally I think they released the trial a little too early, I'm holding off till after the next patch goes live before I try it, since it's quite a major revamp of many core gameplay elements.

Very much truth in that! Since most of the players get an impression of a prior 1.05 Conan they might be shocked to find that they have to RELEARN almost the entire game as 1.05 is deployed on Live.

Not so bad tho as the veteran players that will have to completely give up on their class and playstyle that they trained for months... and reroll or relearn where they once were experts.

I play a ranger and i have to rethink most of my tactics as they will not work now as they used to.

Originally posted by MoLoK_

Its pretty amazing what a total failure AoC was at release when they fix the itemization one year after.

 

That only shows that Funcom released one year too early.

I agree that it was an early bird that missed the worm BUT the incredible loss of subs were to be expected as the average mmo community is a whiney crowd that is not to be pleased. They strife for the next "best thing" and still are not happy with what they get anyway so its realism to setup more than the "cruising number" of Servers for the starting hype and then reduce to a level where solid service is possible.

With 50k subs left the income of AoC should be ok for em to further improve from there and get the rats out of their ship. And the improvements are very well visible.

I played from beta and made a 3 months pause to let em work throu the stuff that i disliked most then picked it up again as WAR failed to grab my attention as happend with so many others that predicted doom for AoC when WAR went live... and returned to AoC afterwards. Lots came from WoW and wanted a "better WoW with fancy graphics" which AoC is not meant to be.

AoC is rude , unfair and open PvP that is NOT balanced around 1v1. Yeah thats right. There is classes that can work theirs off to defeat another class which is disposed single-handedly by a third class. Neither is it Rock/Scissor/Paper. There is a lot of Scissor that can , well played and feated, bite throu any rocks and then get wrapped by a well played paper.

Its more around playertactics and groupplay. Not more, not less.

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Originally posted by Deliriumz1

Originally posted by jblah

This is currently the best game on the market if you dont like it there is something wrong with you or your computer.

 

Thats subjective and hereby a completely useless post, since you can not force your taste upon someone else.

 

ot: I just never got into the game. It wasn't a bad game but it didnt immerse me so I just never log'ed in again.

Heres a clue cupcake ... 99.9% of everything said on these boards is subjective and opinionated. Why state the obvious?
 

Originally posted by riceae02

Originally posted by Deliriumz1

Originally posted by jblah

This is currently the best game on the market if you dont like it there is something wrong with you or your computer.

 

Thats subjective and hereby a completely useless post, since you can not force your taste upon someone else.

 

ot: I just never got into the game. It wasn't a bad game but it didnt immerse me so I just never log'ed in again.

 

Heres a clue cupcake ... 99.9% of everything said on these boards is subjective and opinionated. Why state the obvious?
 

Because most of the subjective opinions contradict each other and alot of people lean back and let others work their opinions for them.

The question is can you talk a game to death by just trying to influence other potential customers enough to not even TRY it  and build their own picture on it.

Frankly this works on a lot of people.