Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Guys give the OP a break. You know, and I know you know, that the AoC forums is probably one of thee worst forums ever to exist on the internet. The forums are a lot like the game itself. Corrupt mods and GMs, mass censorship, forced discussions, altered posts..ect  I have seen many times the abuse of mods on those forums, and if any of you are not tools, you would see it too. I ran a 200+ person guild in AoC back when it was partially popular, one of my officers was banned from the forums for pointing out a hidden nerf that was not in the patch notes after a recent patch. I was with a group of guild members when we saw a GM helping another guild farm gold and resources. One of our guys took a ton of SS's of a GM actually joining in, using their abilities to help cheating within the game for that guild. He put it on the forums and was then banned from the game as well as the forums. Anyone remember the incident where a GM tried to cyber with a player because they thought the player was a girl? That wasnt any of our guild members, but it goes to show that the people running Funcom and running the game AoC are clowns. They are corrupt, lazy, and go on random power trips. The forums are just another area in which shady actions are taking place.

 

paragraphs are your friend....

That is a paragraph champ. Reading Is your friend as well. Adults shouldnt have problems reading chunks of text.

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Guys give the OP a break. You know, and I know you know, that the AoC forums is probably one of thee worst forums ever to exist on the internet. The forums are a lot like the game itself. Corrupt mods and GMs, mass censorship, forced discussions, altered posts..ect  I have seen many times the abuse of mods on those forums, and if any of you are not tools, you would see it too. I ran a 200+ person guild in AoC back when it was partially popular, one of my officers was banned from the forums for pointing out a hidden nerf that was not in the patch notes after a recent patch. I was with a group of guild members when we saw a GM helping another guild farm gold and resources. One of our guys took a ton of SS's of a GM actually joining in, using their abilities to help cheating within the game for that guild. He put it on the forums and was then banned from the game as well as the forums. Anyone remember the incident where a GM tried to cyber with a player because they thought the player was a girl? That wasnt any of our guild members, but it goes to show that the people running Funcom and running the game AoC are clowns. They are corrupt, lazy, and go on random power trips. The forums are just another area in which shady actions are taking place.

 

paragraphs are your friend....

 

That is a paragraph champ. Reading Is your friend as well. Adults shouldnt have problems reading chunks of text.

lol.....go back to school

paragraphs......no matter how you like them...are shorter...and to the point.....

/meh

Originally posted by FC-Famine 

Then please provide some proof for those claims. No one is above the law per say, not even myself. If there are sources which proves that actions are being taking that are not within the guidelines of the forum then I will look into it and correct the matter. However, I need somewhere to start first.

Would like to help here but it seems all links are greeted by "A message from the king...".

Just to give you an idea about all these "idiots" and "haters" take a look here before the "King" butts in with his blocking powers...

There actually WAS a real person expressing his concerns here: forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

While I do not agree to his concerns the lock/bury answer reasoning just invalidates about 99% of the non-locked posts on the official phorums...

Yep the euromod strikes again... score: Mods: Maybe something... Subs: -1

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Guys give the OP a break. You know, and I know you know, that the AoC forums is probably one of thee worst forums ever to exist on the internet. The forums are a lot like the game itself. Corrupt mods and GMs, mass censorship, forced discussions, altered posts..ect  I have seen many times the abuse of mods on those forums, and if any of you are not tools, you would see it too. I ran a 200+ person guild in AoC back when it was partially popular, one of my officers was banned from the forums for pointing out a hidden nerf that was not in the patch notes after a recent patch. I was with a group of guild members when we saw a GM helping another guild farm gold and resources. One of our guys took a ton of SS's of a GM actually joining in, using their abilities to help cheating within the game for that guild. He put it on the forums and was then banned from the game as well as the forums. Anyone remember the incident where a GM tried to cyber with a player because they thought the player was a girl? That wasnt any of our guild members, but it goes to show that the people running Funcom and running the game AoC are clowns. They are corrupt, lazy, and go on random power trips. The forums are just another area in which shady actions are taking place.

 

paragraphs are your friend....

 

That is a paragraph champ. Reading Is your friend as well. Adults shouldnt have problems reading chunks of text.

 

lol.....go back to school

 

paragraphs......no matter how you like them...are shorter...and to the point.....

 

/meh

Not to go off topic, but Paragraphs by definition are a collection of sentences on the same topic. They are not limited in size, only in subject matter. Its become a recent practice by some to make paragraphs 5-8 sentences, though its merely a habit adapted by a few, it is not definitive of a paragraph. So, telling an educated individual to go back to school for knowing more about paragraphs seems a bit childish dont you think? Lets leave it at that.

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by FC-Famine 

Then please provide some proof for those claims. No one is above the law per say, not even myself. If there are sources which proves that actions are being taking that are not within the guidelines of the forum then I will look into it and correct the matter. However, I need somewhere to start first.

 

Would like to help here but it seems all links are greeted by "A message from the king...".

Just to give you an idea about all these "idiots" and "haters" take a look here before the "King" butts in with his blocking powers...

There actually WAS a real person expressing his concerns here: forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

While I do not agree to his concerns the lock/bury answer reasoning just invalidates about 99% of the non-locked posts on the official phorums...

Yep the euromod strikes again... score: Mods: Maybe something... Subs: -1

 

Seriously, if you want developers to listen to you don't start with "I quit your game" and follow it up with "your class balance is shitty and I don't care what you change"  I personally wouldn't have closed it in the hopes that something productive would have come out iof it but there may already have been a more productive thread elsewhere and there were certainly better ways to get the point across.  Basically it comes across as "/ragequit, flame me."

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by FC-Famine 

Then please provide some proof for those claims. No one is above the law per say, not even myself. If there are sources which proves that actions are being taking that are not within the guidelines of the forum then I will look into it and correct the matter. However, I need somewhere to start first.

 

Would like to help here but it seems all links are greeted by "A message from the king...".

Just to give you an idea about all these "idiots" and "haters" take a look here before the "King" butts in with his blocking powers...

There actually WAS a real person expressing his concerns here: forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

While I do not agree to his concerns the lock/bury answer reasoning just invalidates about 99% of the non-locked posts on the official phorums...

Yep the euromod strikes again... score: Mods: Maybe something... Subs: -1

 

 

Seriously, if you want developers to listen to you don't start with "I quit your game" and follow it up with "your class balance is shitty and I don't care what you change"  I personally wouldn't have closed it in the hopes that something productive would have come out iof it but there may already have been a more productive thread elsewhere and there were certainly better ways to get the point across.  Basically it comes across as "/ragequit, flame me."

Oh you may have missed my point here.

Yes ragequit messages on official forums may be a nono but the reasons posted for closure...
I am not going to insult anyones intelligence by posting links to all the "not locked" threads that breaks the exact same "rules" or "reasons".

To some, It may come across as "/ragequit, flame me." but on a very basic and personal level: Any person spending more than 10 minutes (or more than 300 words) expressing his/her feelings towards something may be angry/dissapointed with or without reason - Effectively killing their "concerns" just... well mods might gain some e-peen... but the end result = subs -1

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by FC-Famine 

Then please provide some proof for those claims. No one is above the law per say, not even myself. If there are sources which proves that actions are being taking that are not within the guidelines of the forum then I will look into it and correct the matter. However, I need somewhere to start first.

 

Would like to help here but it seems all links are greeted by "A message from the king...".

Just to give you an idea about all these "idiots" and "haters" take a look here before the "King" butts in with his blocking powers...

There actually WAS a real person expressing his concerns here: forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

While I do not agree to his concerns the lock/bury answer reasoning just invalidates about 99% of the non-locked posts on the official phorums...

Yep the euromod strikes again... score: Mods: Maybe something... Subs: -1

 

 

Seriously, if you want developers to listen to you don't start with "I quit your game" and follow it up with "your class balance is shitty and I don't care what you change"  I personally wouldn't have closed it in the hopes that something productive would have come out iof it but there may already have been a more productive thread elsewhere and there were certainly better ways to get the point across.  Basically it comes across as "/ragequit, flame me."

 

Oh you may have missed my point here.

Yes ragequit messages on official forums may be a nono but the reasons posted for closure...
I am not going to insult anyones intelligence by posting links to all the "not locked" threads that breaks the exact same "rules" or "reasons".

To some, It may come across as "/ragequit, flame me." but on a very basic and personal level: Any person spending more than 10 minutes (or more than 300 words) expressing his/her feelings towards something may be angry/dissapointed with or without reason - Effectively killing their "concerns" just... well mods might gain some e-peen... but the end result = subs -1

 

Maybe you didn't read the post. It was subs -1 anyway. Locked, not locked, went on their knees to kiss his ass, he was already gione. It's a judgement call but the thread itself no matter how well written or well reasoned was as poinless as if he wrote "I quit you suck goodbye." If your methods of dealing with class imbalance is to quit you have nothing to contribute but your absence. It's not abusive moderation.

Originally posted by Halandir 

 I sense a lot of irony is this post or...

would that be tyranny?

Grab a dictionary. Then you'll understand irony.

Originally posted by zymurgeist 

Seriously, if you want developers to listen to you don't start with "I quit your game" and follow it up with "your class balance is shitty and I don't care what you change"  I personally wouldn't have closed it in the hopes that something productive would have come out iof it but there may already have been a more productive thread elsewhere and there were certainly better ways to get the point across.  Basically it comes across as "/ragequit, flame me."

I guess some people are just too daft to understand the difference between constructive criticism and flammatory troll bait. "WAHH! EVIL MODS LOCKED MY THREAD CONSISTING OF HATE FILLED SLANDER DISGUISED AS FEEDBACK!!! WAHH!"

I forgot to mention my post is about the European forum, i dunno how the usa forum works cause i never read it and i don't care. My point is even if you talk about a game matter, like a war or something else your post gets locked anyway, i wish like to know what can you post other than this game rocks junks. This is what happens when your mods keep doing a messy work, ppl get angry and go to other forums to say how it is the story. I came here cause it's here where i got the link to aoc. And of course as paying customer i have the right to tell what i like and what i don't about the game, if not a player then who can do it? Also there are no rules infrangement to most of the locked posts, they just get locked, reading this forum i found out i'm not the only who gets pissed off about it. Maybe your mod shouldn't be kids. Bye.

A mod gave you a chance to prove yourself, yet you aren't willing to show what you posted. Gee, I wonder why. You're kidding yourself if you think we're stupid enough to believe that you aren't being an immature kid and the reason you were banned is because you broke the forum rules by being a troll and/or harassing other people. Grow up and live with the consequences of your actions. 

Funcom is afraid of the truth!

Again!

Afraid of the truth!

Originally posted by prettycrazy

Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, er., uh, yeah.  Its called an official forum for a reason, and that reason is to promote the game.

They've got no reason to let discord and disagreement stand on it, there's no benefit to them.  Think of official forums as marketing tools and you'll understand their purpose.

Which is why I like MMORPG.com, where you can voice your displeasure and for the most part remain unmoderated.

 

 

In whitch 3rd world contry do you live? Peoples as peoples and customers as paying customers have the right to say what they want, have you ever heard about the freedom of speech? It wont be some emopunk forum what is gonna cut words.

Freedom of speech is all well and good as a theory. In practice, if the company is providing the forum, then abide by their rules or don't post.  Many companies will tolerate some critical posts, if you make it constructive. That is entirely up to them.

Yes, constructive is key. It's not about being negative or positive as much as being constructive. Time to time we do have posts that do become locked due to that effort to be constructive but ending in something else. It's hard to really tell what some posters mean at rare specific points because it's only your expression not ours. Thus mistakes do happen naturally when that understanding is wanted from a players end but somehow doesn't meet the end connection on our end (i.e.: what you view as within the guidelines of the forum isn't seen as such from our end).

It's our common practice that such locked threads are not given any type of physical infraction but instead a simple lock with a notice. We also sometimes (if not always in cases like those) encourage reposting to help direct others that we are reading and it's great to be constructive when posting. We don't practice such policies because we want the world to conform to some evil master community plan but instead encourage great posting ethics. That's because we do read the forums and like many others, we can always do more with clear, detailed and constructive posting that has the most impact on the people you target. At least that is the idea...

As hinted before, we are as open as we can be on our practices or ethics. Sometimes moderation's need more clarification or needs a second review. That's why I ask and that's why it's good to let us know if there is fault.

Locking threads because they contain a negative tone about a product is basicly cencorship, and should never occur in a democracy; especialy not in a scandinavian country. It`s really that simple.

There's only one rule for a customer if he/she is not satisfied with the service 'Cancel'and that's what I`m going to do.No post on official forum or anything just cancel and move on.I having problems with the game(EU version) and CS people are acting like dumb.By the way it looked I don`t think they intend to do anyting about that as I think they are more focus with the Trial going on.

Anyway most post on EU forums are like"Thanks Tahi...you are great Tahi and so on.If you look closer you 'll see the same few posters who are active on the forums.

I am not a Conan fanboi, I have only just started playing past few days been rolling and rerolling toons all over the place not even out of tortage. I have done my research and spent equal amounts of time in the game and on the forums.

Trust me (in my short experience) there is PLENTY and I mean PLENTY of Funcom bashing that is allowed to sit on the forums but it is usually in negative feedback to some class tweaking coming in 1.05.  I have not been around conan since it launched so perhaps under Gaute everything was locked down and taken off but from my short experience I have seen enough bashing for me to think that Funcom are not neo-nazi forum deleters. 

At least Funcom have the balls to fund and  put up an official forum, where's WAR's Official forums? wheres's DAOC 's Euro Official forums? Where was Tabula Rasa's Official forums?

Im not posting alot of drivel here but currently sitting on the EU class forums is the start of this post.

-----------

Taken from the EU Forums itself.

Poll. Who else is gonna reroll/quit after patch1.05
As the title said. Who is gonna reroll char or even quit the game after the patch 1.05 hit's the live servers?

The above is just some of my evidence that they allow negativity to sit on their forums.  Please please any new players thinking about trying conan do not listen to the crap that some people say about this game I almost did myself.  The only person that can judge for you is you.

Originally posted by prettycrazy

No wonder these game owners do what they want since their players are such idiots. I pay for that game and i use the forum, if you don't like the way your paying players use it then shut it down. Making a forum doens't mean you can do what you want, but well, what kind of replies do you expect from trash players? The forum is their so they can do what they want. Fucking ignorants.

I agree with this guy 101%

I the great Agricola should be allowed, nay have the god given right to Rickroll everyone on this forum over and over with infantile spam posts here and to their PMs without being touched by one of MMORPG.coms facist skinhead MODS!

Also after recieving abuse for being a twat I shall state that that's what the ignore function is for, and after everyone has me on ignore I'll create a new account so that I can Rickroll them again and then send Goatse to their inboxs. Because that is what I believe free speech is about, forcing people to suffer purile crap from lobotomised chimps with more teeth than braincells such as myself! Whilst MMORPG.com maintains this site, paying for the domain name, server and all the staff and not having the right to prevent me from running riot. Infact my name should be taken off the ignore list as that is just a crypto-facist piece of borgiour crap designed to keep down the budding working class intellectual with verbal diarrhea such as myself!

On the other hand maybe the OP is just a stupid wanker? Who knows?

Originally posted by Zhqrxt

Locking threads because they contain a negative tone about a product is basicly cencorship, and should never occur in a democracy; especialy not in a scandinavian country. It`s really that simple.

You do realize that "democracy" is just another form of tyranny?  Why should 51 get to tell 49 what to do? Simply because 51 is larger than 49?  Does might make right? "Democracy" has become just another excuse for the Few to RULE the Many. Wake up and use your head.

Originally posted by prettycrazy

Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, er., uh, yeah.  Its called an official forum for a reason, and that reason is to promote the game.

They've got no reason to let discord and disagreement stand on it, there's no benefit to them.  Think of official forums as marketing tools and you'll understand their purpose.

Which is why I like MMORPG.com, where you can voice your displeasure and for the most part remain unmoderated.

 

 

In whitch 3rd world contry do you live? Peoples as peoples and customers as paying customers have the right to say what they want, have you ever heard about the freedom of speech? It wont be some emopunk forum what is gonna cut words.

It's pretty clear you've only 'heard' of freedom of speech since if you knew anything about the term you'd know how stupid it is to cry about it on forums owned by a private company.