Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Originally posted by Paragus1

I'm glad your enjoying it.   Many of the most vocal critics of the game have admitted at some point or another that they have never played it.  The game has its issues but its probably the funnest MMO my guys have played in years.

We spent the entire night sailing around on rafts tonight and fought an enemy raft full of guys.  It was fun as hell boarding them and taking them down to seize it.   We also went exploring on some random islands and saw some pretty interesting places.  If your in a good guild, you will enjoy this game much more than you would if your running around solo.

What race did you roll as?

 

First I rolled a human and joined the Duchy of Wessex (Hyperion) for a couple of days and then I contacted a secret group about my attempt to infiltrate them and gather information for the Coalition of the Chillin. Then I backstabbed them and ganked several of the crafters in town and stole goods and a mount while recording it. I showed it to the CoTC and they rewarded me for giving them some vital information and for betraying them. I was planning it for a while so it became a successful spy attempt. Then I headed to the Terrible Company city who are sharing it with Awful Company and then rerolled an Alfar and now I am finally part of TC.

Section 50?

I am not sure if I can post links, but this pretty much explains it from DF forums

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=170344

Originally posted by loxleynew

 All I hear from you is "We went in a group of 20 and killed people and looted them and was fun as hell. So all you trolls this game is super duper amazing and you all are lieing!" 

That is because you are trying to bash the game. You don't listen to the more positive aspects as that isn't all what I said obviously. Just admit that you are trying to degrade the game.

 

I fail to see anywhere in your post about the 20-40 other flaws that have been brought up about the game and disputed them. Why do we post less? Because people don't need to be told about the game anymore. You can easily go watch videos and read reviews of people have actually played the game. Personally Ive read more reviews disliking the game than liking it. It's fine that you are liking the game, however your post in no way reflects the major issues that countless people have brought up. Yes even people that have played the game.

Can you list 20-40 game breaking flaws? All games have flaws but I haven't encountered these "flaws" yet in the game. The hackers and exploiters are a problem but that doesn't destroy my time in game.

 

On a side note making a flame thread and calling people trolls is not a good way to stop people from posting and making them go buy the game.

That is just what you are, a troll. You deny the given evidence and try to think of the negatives of the game when most of it is not a big problem and we are having fun in the game regardless.

 

Responses in green

Well almost for any troll you see you can look at their post history. They are almost all fans of pve games like LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, etc and are most definetly all outspoken carebears. Just be careful and do not allow them to lure you into arguments. Just report them to moderators and move on

Anyway I am enjoying the game. I've been busy for past couple days so didnt have much time to play. But this weekend I should have a lot of time. This is the game us pvpers have been waiting for.

You can DODGE firebolts and arrows in this game yourself. How cool is that? There is no dice roll being rolled on the server that determines life/death. When two meleers fight in this game- they actually MOVE around and use tactics. In WoW and most any other horrid dice roll game, all meleers do is fight in ONE SPOT. And Spiking a target was so easy for guilds. You just call target on vent, everyone TABs to the poor sucker, and all attack. I've seen people die instantly in those other horrid MMOs

This all changes here. All that BS is fixed by merely getting rid of dice rolling. Finally, a true pvp mmo for us. and only cost $50 thats nothing. I spend over $120 for 2 xbox 360 games per month alone

Originally posted by PatchDay

Well almost for any troll you see you can look at their post history. They are almost all fans of pve games like LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, etc and are most definetly all outspoken carebears. Just be careful and do not allow them to lure you into arguments. Just report them to moderators and move on

 

Anyway I am enjoying the game. I've been busy for past couple days so didnt have much time to play. But this weekend I should have a lot of time. This is the game us pvpers have been waiting for.

You can DODGE firebolts and arrows in this game yourself. How cool is that? There is no dice roll being rolled on the server that determines life/death. When two meleers fight in this game- they actually MOVE around and use tactics. In WoW and most any other horrid dice roll game, all meleers do is fight in ONE SPOT. And Spiking a target was so easy for guilds. You just call target on vent, everyone TABs to the poor sucker, and all attack. I've seen people die instantly in those other horrid MMOs

 

This all changes here. All that BS is fixed by merely getting rid of dice rolling. Finally, a true pvp mmo for us. and only cost $50 thats nothing. I spend over $120 for 2 xbox 360 games per month alone

 

Where the hell have you been?

Go ahead call me a care bear, but i bet i have more time in real PvP games, than you sir, this is why i am a knowledgeable customer, and see darkfall for what it is. a mediocre, shallow, flawed from the design stage , amateur production, simplistic PvP game.

Just because someone currently plays, and enjoys a PvE game, does not mean someone is a carebear. I am glad you are enjoying the game. do it with out assuming about people.

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Originally posted by loxleynew

 All I hear from you is "We went in a group of 20 and killed people and looted them and was fun as hell. So all you trolls this game is super duper amazing and you all are lieing!" 

That is because you are trying to bash the game. You don't listen to the more positive aspects as that isn't all what I said obviously. Just admit that you are trying to degrade the game.

 I'm being realistic about the game unlike a lot of the fanboys here. There are as many trolls on your side as there are hater trolls. How would I try degrade the game when it does it by itself? I would listen to the positive aspects of the game if you guys would post them instead of this rabble calling out all the 'trolls'. Sure there is a decent pvp system, but beyond that I don't see any positives about the game. Instead of calling me a troll maybe enlighten me and post some things. Let me guess I should go back to wow?

I fail to see anywhere in your post about the 20-40 other flaws that have been brought up about the game and disputed them. Why do we post less? Because people don't need to be told about the game anymore. You can easily go watch videos and read reviews of people have actually played the game. Personally Ive read more reviews disliking the game than liking it. It's fine that you are liking the game, however your post in no way reflects the major issues that countless people have brought up. Yes even people that have played the game.

Can you list 20-40 game breaking flaws? All games have flaws but I haven't encountered these "flaws" yet in the game. The hackers and exploiters are a problem but that doesn't destroy my time in game.

I never said they were game breaking however some flaws to you (which you obviously have low standards) might be game breaking to a lot of other people. However yes there are at LEAST 20-40 flaws. If you have even read any posts you can see this. In fact go to their website and list 20 things on there that actually correlate to the actual game and I would be impressed. Flaws to me is where AV lied about what the game should have been and what it actually is. Maybe they should update their website. Maybe even hire competant programmers.

 

On a side note making a flame thread and calling people trolls is not a good way to stop people from posting and making them go buy the game.

That is just what you are, a troll. You deny the given evidence and try to think of the negatives of the game when most of it is not a big problem and we are having fun in the game regardless.

 

How is most of it not a big problem? Maybe not to you, but to an mmo that wants to survive it is. The piss poor combat mechanics and magic system alone is bad. Secondly the horrible community and AV lieing every second post tasos makes. Try ignore it and I'm glad you are happy with it. I like how all fanboys (you included) call everyone who posts what the game really is a troll post. Go enjoy your game. Without a constant subscription base it is hard for a game to survive. Let's see how many subscribers this game really has if they ever open more servers.

 

 

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Originally posted by PatchDay

Well almost for any troll you see you can look at their post history. They are almost all fans of pve games like LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, etc and are most definetly all outspoken carebears. Just be careful and do not allow them to lure you into arguments. Just report them to moderators and move on

 

Anyway I am enjoying the game. I've been busy for past couple days so didnt have much time to play. But this weekend I should have a lot of time. This is the game us pvpers have been waiting for.

You can DODGE firebolts and arrows in this game yourself. How cool is that? There is no dice roll being rolled on the server that determines life/death. When two meleers fight in this game- they actually MOVE around and use tactics. In WoW and most any other horrid dice roll game, all meleers do is fight in ONE SPOT. And Spiking a target was so easy for guilds. You just call target on vent, everyone TABs to the poor sucker, and all attack. I've seen people die instantly in those other horrid MMOs

 

This all changes here. All that BS is fixed by merely getting rid of dice rolling. Finally, a true pvp mmo for us. and only cost $50 thats nothing. I spend over $120 for 2 xbox 360 games per month alone

 

Ah the true fanboy post. Any thread cannot be complete unless the words "carebear" and "go back to wow" are present. 

Try EvE online for a REAL PvP sandbox game.

In darkfall you can....

PvP

PvE

Fight clan wars

Build and take citys

Craft [barely]

Exploring is there but not exactly usefull [as in you will get payed for it].

In EvE you can....

PvP

Fight Corperate wars

Build and take Stations

Craft - a lot

trade on the market

PvE

Exploring is supported and usefull

Mercenaries exist in EvE

Originally posted by HYPERI0N

Try EvE online for a REAL PvP sandbox game.

In darkfall you can....

PvP

PvE

Fight clan wars

Build and take citys

Craft [barely]

Exploring is there but not exactly usefull [as in you will get payed for it].

In EvE you can....

PvP

Fight Corperate wars

Build and take Stations

Craft - a lot

trade on the market

PvE

Exploring is supported and usefull

Mercenaries exist in EvE

 

Mercenaries exist in DF also, quite famous and in demand people I might ad: The Mercs & Covert Operations are two of the biggest mercenary guilds around and if you have the money they will help with your city being sieged or siege another city.

And what do you mean "barely" craft? - let me tell you something in the guild the busiest and most in demand people are the mount and armorsmiths/weaponsmiths. Besides the number of crafters who make modules for cities to sell them to other guilds (see Haven for example).

Perhaps DF does not "pay" for you to explore, but its far more useful to scout an area and see the rock formations/rivers that can be used as cover or springboard for counterattack.

In EVE its just empty space....come on now...even with planets DFs exploring is much more valuable than EVEs

Not trashing EVE in the least, but its sad that you guys who come here and have no ideea about the game come and give us examples of how your precious is so much more that.

Give me a break

Originally posted by HYPERI0N

Try EvE online for a REAL PvP sandbox game.

In darkfall you can....

PvP

PvE

Fight clan wars

Build and take citys

Craft [barely]

Exploring is there but not exactly usefull [as in you will get payed for it].

In EvE you can....

PvP

Fight Corperate wars

Build and take Stations

Craft - a lot

trade on the market

PvE

Exploring is supported and usefull

Mercenaries exist in EvE

 

How many years has EVE been out?   DF has been out for about like 5-6 weeks?   There are mercenaries in Darkfall,  there are several guilds who play this way.  The fact that you didn't know this makes me think you might not be playing the game.   A few of them PM'ed me about wanting to participate in the last article I wrote, but I didn't want to make it any longer.

I played it for 2 weeks and sold my account for what I paid for it. The game looks good but has too many flaws. The slow,clunky,half assed attempt at FPS combat in an MMO setting was a joke. It felt like BF1942 slowed down 80%. The game IS skill based but doesnt take any skill to play

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Go ahead call me a care bear, but i bet i have more time in real PvP games, than you sir, this is why i am a knowledgeable customer, and see darkfall for what it is. a mediocre, shallow, flawed from the design stage , amateur production, simplistic PvP game.

   Oh really?  You neither own or play Darkfall. Thanks for sharing your enlightened information to all of us actually playing the game. Im 35 and have been playing pvp games since I was a kid. Honestly though who cares? this game is fun and that's all that matters. There will always be a special place in my heart for WW II online though

I'm not sure everyone caught this.

For months before and after release of DF, we should recognize that the problem is not the game itself. The game can improve or has potential. The problem is Aventurine. The company is crooked and has a horrible Public Representative in the name of Tasos Flambouras... what is worse is that their ability to rectify situations and the judgment of their GMs is nothing short of a crack-baby with a missile-launcher.

Originally posted by Kruul

I played it for 2 weeks and sold my account for what I paid for it. The game looks good but has too many flaws. The slow,clunky,half assed attempt at FPS combat in an MMO setting was a joke. It felt like BF1942 slowed down 80%. The game IS skill based but doesnt take any skill to play

You are kidding right?

I suck at melee and get steamrolled everytime by a more experienced player with the same stats and weapon skills. Dude's just better at crouching under my swing and timing his hit so it hits me in the back. That is player skill, the real one

Not like all other mmorpgs where smashing on different keys plus the luck of the dice will determine the winner (lets not talk about the gear you have on, thats another matter onto itself)

What will you guys come up with to complain next, i mean come on "game is skill based but doesent take any skill to play" Roll On The Floor Laughing

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Kruul

I played it for 2 weeks and sold my account for what I paid for it. The game looks good but has too many flaws. The slow,clunky,half assed attempt at FPS combat in an MMO setting was a joke. It felt like BF1942 slowed down 80%. The game IS skill based but doesnt take any skill to play

 

You are kidding right?

I suck at melee and get steamrolled everytime by a more experienced player with the same stats and weapon skills. Dude's just better at crouching under my swing and timing his hit so it hits me in the back. That is player skill, the real one

 

Not like all other mmorpgs where smashing on different keys plus the luck of the dice will determine the winner (lets not talk about the gear you have on, thats another matter onto itself)

What will you guys come up with to complain next, i mean come on "game is skill based but doesent take any skill to play" Roll On The Floor Laughing

Don't be so humble.

Let's say that the player who pwn'd you is a younger kid with less experience than you. Who plays spammable games like AoC where you just spam your combo or attack buttons, regardless of cooldowns. Crouching under your swing? Please. Not even Age of Conan lets jumping matter when you're swinging. You're getting hit as a complete avatar.

Originally posted by PatchDay

Well almost for any troll you see you can look at their post history. They are almost all fans of pve games like LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, etc and are most definetly all outspoken carebears. Just be careful and do not allow them to lure you into arguments. Just report them to moderators and move on

 

Anyway I am enjoying the game. I've been busy for past couple days so didnt have much time to play. But this weekend I should have a lot of time. This is the game us pvpers have been waiting for.

You can DODGE firebolts and arrows in this game yourself. How cool is that? There is no dice roll being rolled on the server that determines life/death. When two meleers fight in this game- they actually MOVE around and use tactics. In WoW and most any other horrid dice roll game, all meleers do is fight in ONE SPOT. And Spiking a target was so easy for guilds. You just call target on vent, everyone TABs to the poor sucker, and all attack. I've seen people die instantly in those other horrid MMOs

 

This all changes here. All that BS is fixed by merely getting rid of dice rolling. Finally, a true pvp mmo for us. and only cost $50 thats nothing. I spend over $120 for 2 xbox 360 games per month alone

 

This is the problem with most Darkfall Fanboys.. they see any other game as a bad game... They can't see the forest for the trees, and their play experience is usually either so one sided in that they haven't played many games, or they played one game and compared every other game to that game.

The "This is the game that us PvPers have been waiting for".. Again.. a blind statement by someone who hasn't played many games.  The style of PvP in Darkfall is NOTHING NEW.  Let me stress again it's "NOTHING NEW".  I've been playing skill based PvP games for a long time (AC, CS, Hell even AoC has real time combat) where you have to dodge, move, strike, run away, run back, jump, spin.. ETC..   F'n amatures who call Darkfall PvP revolutionary.. Get a clue and get out of the parents basement.  There are a lot of games out there that can satisfy your PvP craving.

So, in closing, patch, I'd like to say that before you post do these things: 1. Think - Am I posting something that makes sense? 2. Delete what you have posted and write "edited" 3. click post. 

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Kruul

I played it for 2 weeks and sold my account for what I paid for it. The game looks good but has too many flaws. The slow,clunky,half assed attempt at FPS combat in an MMO setting was a joke. It felt like BF1942 slowed down 80%. The game IS skill based but doesnt take any skill to play

 

You are kidding right?

I suck at melee and get steamrolled everytime by a more experienced player with the same stats and weapon skills. Dude's just better at crouching under my swing and timing his hit so it hits me in the back. That is player skill, the real one

 

Not like all other mmorpgs where smashing on different keys plus the luck of the dice will determine the winner (lets not talk about the gear you have on, thats another matter onto itself)

What will you guys come up with to complain next, i mean come on "game is skill based but doesent take any skill to play" Roll On The Floor Laughing

Actually you are right he is wrong, it is not a skill based game... a leveling game with only 4 levels.
 

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by PatchDay

Well almost for any troll you see you can look at their post history. They are almost all fans of pve games like LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, etc and are most definetly all outspoken carebears. Just be careful and do not allow them to lure you into arguments. Just report them to moderators and move on

 

Anyway I am enjoying the game. I've been busy for past couple days so didnt have much time to play. But this weekend I should have a lot of time. This is the game us pvpers have been waiting for.

You can DODGE firebolts and arrows in this game yourself. How cool is that? There is no dice roll being rolled on the server that determines life/death. When two meleers fight in this game- they actually MOVE around and use tactics. In WoW and most any other horrid dice roll game, all meleers do is fight in ONE SPOT. And Spiking a target was so easy for guilds. You just call target on vent, everyone TABs to the poor sucker, and all attack. I've seen people die instantly in those other horrid MMOs

 

This all changes here. All that BS is fixed by merely getting rid of dice rolling. Finally, a true pvp mmo for us. and only cost $50 thats nothing. I spend over $120 for 2 xbox 360 games per month alone

 

 

This is the problem with most Darkfall Fanboys.. they see any other game as a bad game... They can't see the forest for the trees, and their play experience is usually either so one sided in that they haven't played many games, or they played one game and compared every other game to that game.

The "This is the game that us PvPers have been waiting for".. Again.. a blind statement by someone who hasn't played many games.  The style of PvP in Darkfall is NOTHING NEW.  Let me stress again it's "NOTHING NEW".  I've been playing skill based PvP games for a long time (AC, CS, Hell even AoC has real time combat) where you have to dodge, move, strike, run away, run back, jump, spin.. ETC..   F'n amatures who call Darkfall PvP revolutionary.. Get a clue and get out of the parents basement.  There are a lot of games out there that can satisfy your PvP craving.

So, in closing, patch, I'd like to say that before you post do these things: 1. Think - Am I posting something that makes sense? 2. Delete what you have posted and write "edited" 3. click post. 

I know if you double-direction you get a dodge bonus or double-forward for charge bonus... there's a "jump" bonus for AoC? o.O When did this happen?

And just reminding me about these bonuses, helps me understand that AoC does seem to require a bit more skill... but I haven't seen these movement bonuses make a difference in the long run.

I haven't seen a civil discussion thread about this game yet, and I doubt I ever will.  I would probably try it if the shop were ever up for more than an hour or two at a time.  Can't say I have a good impression of the company behind it based on everything I've read, but I've definitely tried stinker games before, so if it is one, it wouldn't be the first.

Originally posted by argos5

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Kruul

I played it for 2 weeks and sold my account for what I paid for it. The game looks good but has too many flaws. The slow,clunky,half assed attempt at FPS combat in an MMO setting was a joke. It felt like BF1942 slowed down 80%. The game IS skill based but doesnt take any skill to play

 

You are kidding right?

I suck at melee and get steamrolled everytime by a more experienced player with the same stats and weapon skills. Dude's just better at crouching under my swing and timing his hit so it hits me in the back. That is player skill, the real one

 

Not like all other mmorpgs where smashing on different keys plus the luck of the dice will determine the winner (lets not talk about the gear you have on, thats another matter onto itself)

What will you guys come up with to complain next, i mean come on "game is skill based but doesent take any skill to play" Roll On The Floor Laughing

 

Don't be so humble.

 

Let's say that the player who pwn'd you is a younger kid with less experience than you. Who plays spammable games like AoC where you just spam your combo or attack buttons, regardless of cooldowns. Crouching under your swing? Please. Not even Age of Conan lets jumping matter when you're swinging. You're getting hit as a complete avatar.

I dont really see what Age of Conan has anything to do with this discussion.

DF is a twitch based combat system, where if you crouch at the right time the swing will go over your head....simple. It also helps alot against mounted players since they are high up and you are crouching.

If as you say AoC does not let jumping matter when youre swinging....well it seems like a design problem, perhaps petition Funcom about it than telling me monologues about a game you havent even played?