Originally posted by akiira69

Thanks for the idea, but I have already tried City of Warehouse's it wasnt for me.

This response sums this thread up. Only one person was a bit sarcastic URNotMega. People have tried to offer suggestions but everyone of them has been shot down. Most with a bit of an insulting tone "city of warhouses" . The person who suggested CoH/CoV may love the game but it is "City of Warehouses" to the OP. Knowing this person went to the trouble to write a detailed honest repsonse to you about a game he likes, you might have simply said "it was not for me". I responded with a few idea but because I question the notion that his cards are not top of the line as claimed there was insulting tones to me as well. We have just been trying to offer ideas about the games we love and recommend. He even claim that he has been in mmos longer then me and knows more when I was just trying to help. This may be true but did you really need to post it, to prove what? We were just trying to help.

With the OPs vast experience in mmos I again question what was he trying to find here since he has played all of them? URNotMega in his sarcastic drunken post is looking more and more correct.  We have tried to help but there is obviously no mmos out there for akiira69. When you find one post what it is I am curious to learn what you think is a good mmo. You might simply stop playing mmos for now and hope for some mmo in the future that you will like. The mmo world is better and with more choices then ever. There are many game jumpers who never seem to be happy. I recommend staying with one and only one. Try to explore it fully and not divide your time between 4 or 5 at a time. Maybe mmos are simply not for the OP. You might try something like Fable, Oblivion, the Rise of the Argonauts, Fallout3, Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, Overlord, Grand Theft Auto, Tomb Raider or even Spore.

I do have one last suggestion Entropia Universe.

Originally posted by eccoton

Originally posted by akiira69

Thanks for the idea, but I have already tried City of Warehouse's it wasnt for me.

 

This response sums this thread up. Only one person was a bit sarcastic URNotMega. People have tried to offer suggestions but everyone of them has been shot down. Most with a bit of an insulting tone "city of warhouses" . The person who suggested CoH/CoV may love the game but it is "City of Warehouses" to the OP. Knowing this person went to the trouble to write a detailed honest repsonse to you about a game he likes, you might have simply said "it was not for me". I responded with a few idea but because I question the notion that his cards are not top of the line as claimed there was insulting tones to me as well. We have just been trying to offer ideas about the games we love and recommend. He even claim that he has been in mmos longer then me and knows more when I was just trying to help. This may be true but did you really need to post it, to prove what? We were just trying to help.

With the OPs vast experience in mmos I again question what was he trying to find here since he has played all of them? URNotMega in his sarcastic drunken post is looking more and more correct.  We have tried to help but there is obviously no mmos out there for akiira69. When you find one post what it is I am curious to learn what you think is a good mmo. You might simply stop playing mmos for now and hope for some mmo in the future that you will like. The mmo world is better and with more choices then ever. There are many game jumpers who never seem to be happy. I recommend staying with one and only one. Try to explore it fully and not divide your time between 4 or 5 at a time. Maybe mmos are simply not for the OP. You might try something like Fable, Oblivion, the Rise of the Argonauts, Fallout3, Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, Overlord, Grand Theft Auto, Tomb Raider or even Spore.

I do have one last suggestion Entropia Universe.

Most of the problems that happen in this thread is my fault(you notice i say it is my fault not likely, or probably but is my fault) because I never gave the guidlines to what type of MMO I like I have posted it in other threads like this but now I recognize that I failed to do so in this thread. To those that tried to help and I snapped at I am sorry. I am not sorry to URNotMega, instead of being helpful all he does is try to a) increase his post count and b) try to make it so I say something stupid and cause me to get kicked off these forums. Well URNotMega it didnt work I appluad you for trying but all in all you failed.

Originally posted by akiira69

 

Most of the problems that happen in this thread is my fault(you notice i say it is my fault not likely, or probably but is my fault) because I never gave the guidlines to what type of MMO I like I have posted it in other threads like this but now I recognize that I failed to do so in this thread. To those that tried to help and I snapped at I am sorry. I am not sorry to URNotMega, instead of being helpful all he does is try to a) increase his post count and b) try to make it so I say something stupid and cause me to get kicked off these forums. Well URNotMega it didnt work I appluad you for trying but all in all you failed.

I for one appreciate this response. My last suggestion was Entropia Universe. Have you ever tried it. It is an mmo with very mixed feelings around it. I played for about a year and basically broke even. It is unique and a challenge and not for everyone. I mention Ryzom and you said you tried it for a bit. You might try giving it another go since you can try it for free. For someone with your experience it will be hard to find a game. So I would suggest Ryzom or Entopia Universe. Something that may challenge your skill and notion of what an mmo can be. It does not have a huge population but D&D Online is a pretty well made game and deserves more credit then it gets. We are facing a few months of not much coming out but late this year and next year we should have a few more choices. Good luck and if you find an obscure mmo let us know.

Sorry for straying off topic, but aren't the 200 series for fucking graphics professionals and/or medical equipment?

My 4850x2's can run absolutely anything maxed out at 60+ FPS. I don't see why you would want to go any higher unless it's for your job.

Originally posted by Korby

Sorry for straying off topic, but aren't the 200 series for fucking graphics professionals and/or medical equipment?

 

My 4850x2's can run absolutely anything maxed out at 60+ FPS. I don't see why you would want to go any higher unless it's for your job.

Dude, your 4850x2 are more powerful than half the 200 series. Like for example, the GTX260 and below.

No, it's not for graphics professionals and/or medical equipment. They have EXACTLY the same purpose as your HD4850x2's, which is GAMING. Wheter they are capable of doing stuff like folding@home, CUDA, Physx, or what ever, is another subject.


To the OP. You have, in no way, top of the notch graphic cards. Yes,  you might be able to handle games at max settings, but what are max settings to you? And what resolution do you play at?

You WON'T be able to max ANYTHING new out, if you are playing with a res like 1920x1080 (which would be a 24 inch monitor)

I'm guessing you play at 1280x1024 (19 inches or less), so, yes, you could be able to "max" out a few games, at not so good fps. And what does maxing out mean to you anyway? Because maxing out, means using anisotropic filtering and antialiasing to its fullest, and those 2 cards you listed, won't handle that well under high resolutions.


Btw, the "high end" graphics games you listed, are not even high end. Those are outdated graphic compared to what's now on the market. Just try maxing out and playing at reasonable frame rate 35/40+, games like, World in Conflict, Crysis Warhead, Fear 2, GRID, to name a few.

One more thing, you said your 9400GT and your 8600GT were awesome because they had 1GB of RAM and others, which are more expensive, only have 512. Well, let me tell you something, RAM on a graphic card has VERY little to do with it's perfomance. Neither your cards is more powerful than a 9800GT with 512 for example, just because they have double the ram. FYI, the 9800GT would DESTROY both your cards. And it doesn't cost 220 bucks, you can get one for 89,99 at newegg.

And about your CPU and RAM, that's absolutely no excuse for not being able to play something. First of, RAM isn't that important, when talking about gaming or fps. It's important for multi tasking, and better/faster RAM will suit you well for loading in-game data faster. And about the CPUs, you can always overclock them to very high clocks, Intel Core 2 Duos are great for overclocking. Either way, CPUs will always bottleneck your VGA.



Conclusion: Your PC is low-mid range. Yes, it can "max out" (with in-game settings I suppose, that's not exactly maxing out) games that were released a few years ago, on resolutions like 1280x1024 or less, at not great fps rates.

You have NO clue about PCs, so stop talking about graphics cards and PC components, because I haven't read so much BS since I last visited troll land at gamefaqs.



PS: Sorry for my bad english.

PS2: FYI, the 7900GTX or the 7800GTX, are both more powerful than your cards. And that thing you said about getting a CPU for 700, a motherboard for 600 and a video card for 600 is BS. I can build a PC with a CPU for 100, a motherboard for 150 and a video card for less than 100 bucks, that will utterly destroy your PC in perfomance.

Have a nice day.

Originally posted by akiira69 

Most of the problems that happen in this thread is my fault(you notice i say it is my fault not likely, or probably but is my fault) because I never gave the guidlines to what type of MMO I like I have posted it in other threads like this but now I recognize that I failed to do so in this thread. To those that tried to help and I snapped at I am sorry. I am not sorry to URNotMega, instead of being helpful all he does is try to a) increase his post count and b) try to make it so I say something stupid and cause me to get kicked off these forums. Well URNotMega it didnt work I appluad you for trying but all in all you failed.

I signed up Jan 1, 2005 and have 58 posts.  What makes you think I care about my post count in the slightest?

You can check every other thread I've ever responded to.  You'll find nothing but helpful posts (or at least, for the most part) :)  When someone says this though...

"Its a waist of system resources and beneath me to even think about playing."

Well, that person doesn't deserve a decent response.  If I could go back, I'd take out the little piece of sincere advice I gave you in my first post.

*edit* Speaking of looking at post history... I just took a glance at yours.  You seem to be pretty confrontational and your arrogance carries on beyond this topic.  I feel much better about calling you out in my first post now, thanks :)

actually I use 1440x900(17" Widscreen on the Intel System 19" Widescreen on the AMD System)  on both my computers nd I never said that my cards were the best, all I said was why should I spend $220 on a card I can get the same performance out of one that considerbly cheaper. I also never said the RA like to know where you are getting this tM on a vid card makes a vid card uber. I really would like to know where you are getting all of this info. And as for games like World at War and crysis I dont bother playing those types of games FPS Offline(notice I say offline not online) pose no challenge for me because they are easy to defeat with cheats, that is why I play online games because it is impossible to cheat and not get caught even with PunkBuster on a FPS server its still easy to cheat and not get caught but to cheat and not get caught in a MMORPG is a real feat. the only games I play offline are CRPG's which also require heavy graphics cards.

Originally posted by URNotMega

Originally posted by akiira69 

Most of the problems that happen in this thread is my fault(you notice i say it is my fault not likely, or probably but is my fault) because I never gave the guidlines to what type of MMO I like I have posted it in other threads like this but now I recognize that I failed to do so in this thread. To those that tried to help and I snapped at I am sorry. I am not sorry to URNotMega, instead of being helpful all he does is try to a) increase his post count and b) try to make it so I say something stupid and cause me to get kicked off these forums. Well URNotMega it didnt work I appluad you for trying but all in all you failed.

I signed up Jan 1, 2005 and have 58 posts.  What makes you think I care about my post count in the slightest?

 

You can check every other thread I've ever responded to.  You'll find nothing but helpful posts (or at least, for the most part) :)  When someone says this though...

 

"Its a waist of system resources and beneath me to even think about playing."

 

Well, that person doesn't deserve a decent response.  If I could go back, I'd take out the little piece of sincere advice I gave you in my first post.

 

*edit* Speaking of looking at post history... I just took a glance at yours.  You seem to be pretty confrontational and your arrogance carries on beyond this topic.  I feel much better about calling you out in my first post now, thanks :)

That is my opinion on those types of games, we have state of the art game developing software(eg Maya 3D World Creator) and they make games using the Diablo 1 engine. to me its saying i dont care about the graphics part of the game. In my opinion a great game needs more than just a great storyline. but at the same time it also needs more than a great graphics engine. a great game has both killer graphics and a killer storyline to follow, to have 1 but not the other tells me that the game developer either doesnt care about the potential players they could attract ot doesnt care about the game it self. I will not waste time on a game that in my opinion the devs just slapped to gether using an out dated graphics engine. About my attitude in game forums, I have been playing online games sence about 1991(way before MMORPG's were ever thought of) with MUDs(Multi-User DomainsDungeons basically think of them as the grandfather of MMORPG's) I have seen games come and go, and yes Ive become somewhat of a grouch but its well founded and well placed. If you were to look through my eyes at the online game progression from BBS Boards to MUDs to MMORPG's youd be a little cynnical about things to. Especially towards people who think can tell a MMO Development team what they can and cannot do to their game. I have played more online games than I care to count Ive seen the best of online games and I have seen the worst of online games. Hell I even helped code a few MUDs myself, so excuse me for seeing how you respond to my thread for what it really is. And to me your posts are nothing but "Oh look he doesnt use the same vid card that I do so lets berate him over that choice". You didnt even bother to ask why I hated MMO's with 2D and 2.5D graphics you just took it that Im a snob(im not its just that when im paying for either extra goodies for a MMO or paying a monthly fee for a MMO i would want them to at least have decent graphics, and yes i do buy stuff from the stores for Free to Play MMO's and yes I do pay to play those that require a monthly subscription). And yes i notice the difference between the posts you make towards others and the posts you make towards me, and I am suprised by the difference between them, you are calm and civil towards them but the very first thing you say towards me is my choice in vid cards is a joke. Not all of us who play online and offline games have an unlimited budget to upgrade the systems, some of actually have things that are more important than a brand new spiffy vid card. I have rent I need to pay, utility bills I need to pay, phone bill, cable internet bill, cell phone bill, and groceries. No i didnt go through that sentence to make up a sob story on the first of every month i go thru all my bills pay them go out and by a months worth of groceries, after all that I have about $50-$70 USD and depending on the month I might have 2 pay to play MMO's active  so that is another $30 out of my check which limits me to $20-$40 a month to play with. After all of that I have very little left for fun, so excuse me if I dont go out and drop $200-$500 USD on a vid card that does a little more than one i pay $50 for. The only reason I mentioned the Vid Card size is every time I ask for help in getting a new game to play(whether it be offline or online) i always get asked what vid card im using and what size memory does it have.

you can try shadow of legend, its a good 2.5d f2p mmorpg game, having a familiar feel of Diablo2. i've been playing and it do bring me some good memory. it bear main elements of a mmorpg game and feature various kinds of pvp. the environment in it is very friendly and active. hope will help u.

Originally posted by akiira69

actually I use 1440x900(17" Widscreen on the Intel System 19" Widescreen on the AMD System)  on both my computers nd I never said that my cards were the best, all I said was why should I spend $220 on a card I can get the same performance out of one that considerbly cheaper. I also never said the RA like to know where you are getting this tM on a vid card makes a vid card uber. I really would like to know where you are getting all of this info. And as for games like World at War and crysis I dont bother playing those types of games FPS Offline(notice I say offline not online) pose no challenge for me because they are easy to defeat with cheats, that is why I play online games because it is impossible to cheat and not get caught even with PunkBuster on a FPS server its still easy to cheat and not get caught but to cheat and not get caught in a MMORPG is a real feat. the only games I play offline are CRPG's which also require heavy graphics cards.

1. Well, that resolution is as bad as the one I said, so it doesn't make any difference.

2. First of, you won't get the same perfomance from a $220 card, it will be much much better than yours, you are just too blind to realize that.

3. Yes, you said RAM matters, you said it on your first post, maybe you should remember what you say.

4. I never talked about World at War, I said World in Conflict, it's a strategy game. Btw, both games you are able to play online, and if you use cheats to beat a game, then it's your own fault. It doesn't make the game easier, it's just.. you are CHEATING. It's like saying, meh, olympics suck because I take steroids and am stronger than anyone else.

5. It's not impossible to cheat on an online game, and it is very easy to cheat on a MMORPG, ever heard of bots? Trainers? Buying in-game money, accounts or char with real money? That's all fairly easy, you just need MONEY.

CRPGs requiring heavy graphic cards? Don't make me laugh.



Again, get a clue what you are talking about. you don't even know what you said the day before.

PS: Playing on a 17" inch monitor... you really should stop talking about stuff you don't know.

Originally posted by akiira69 

That is my opinion on those types of games, we have state of the art game developing software(eg Maya 3D World Creator) and they make games using the Diablo 1 engine. to me its saying i dont care about the graphics part of the game. In my opinion a great game needs more than just a great storyline. but at the same time it also needs more than a great graphics engine. a great game has both killer graphics and a killer storyline to follow, to have 1 but not the other tells me that the game developer either doesnt care about the potential players they could attract ot doesnt care about the game it self. I will not waste time on a game that in my opinion the devs just slapped to gether using an out dated graphics engine. About my attitude in game forums, I have been playing online games sence about 1991(way before MMORPG's were ever thought of) with MUDs(Multi-User DomainsDungeons basically think of them as the grandfather of MMORPG's) I have seen games come and go, and yes Ive become somewhat of a grouch but its well founded and well placed. If you were to look through my eyes at the online game progression from BBS Boards to MUDs to MMORPG's youd be a little cynnical about things to. Especially towards people who think can tell a MMO Development team what they can and cannot do to their game. I have played more online games than I care to count Ive seen the best of online games and I have seen the worst of online games. Hell I even helped code a few MUDs myself, so excuse me for seeing how you respond to my thread for what it really is. And to me your posts are nothing but "Oh look he doesnt use the same vid card that I do so lets berate him over that choice". You didnt even bother to ask why I hated MMO's with 2D and 2.5D graphics you just took it that Im a snob(im not its just that when im paying for either extra goodies for a MMO or paying a monthly fee for a MMO i would want them to at least have decent graphics, and yes i do buy stuff from the stores for Free to Play MMO's and yes I do pay to play those that require a monthly subscription). And yes i notice the difference between the posts you make towards others and the posts you make towards me, and I am suprised by the difference between them, you are calm and civil towards them but the very first thing you say towards me is my choice in vid cards is a joke. Not all of us who play online and offline games have an unlimited budget to upgrade the systems, some of actually have things that are more important than a brand new spiffy vid card. I have rent I need to pay, utility bills I need to pay, phone bill, cable internet bill, cell phone bill, and groceries. No i didnt go through that sentence to make up a sob story on the first of every month i go thru all my bills pay them go out and by a months worth of groceries, after all that I have about $50-$70 USD and depending on the month I might have 2 pay to play MMO's active  so that is another $30 out of my check which limits me to $20-$40 a month to play with. After all of that I have very little left for fun, so excuse me if I dont go out and drop $200-$500 USD on a vid card that does a little more than one i pay $50 for. The only reason I mentioned the Vid Card size is every time I ask for help in getting a new game to play(whether it be offline or online) i always get asked what vid card im using and what size memory does it have.

Assuming you're being sincere, your intention seems to be far different from the attitude you portray.  I have nothing against someone who prefers a good looking game to a bad looking game.  Everyone's got their own opinion and I respect that.  I personally love pushing my graphics card to its limits, but I'm also a pretty hardcore gamer, so I love revisiting the old stuff (diablo 2, gemstone 3/4 - a MUD I've played on and off for years and years, chrono trigger, etc).

I also have no problem with whatever video card someone has.  The 8600 was a nicely priced, upper-mid-range card when it came out and an affordable way to get into DX10.  I don't know much about the 9400 but the way nVidia typically numbers things, I imagine that it might be lower end for gaming than the 8600, or perhaps on par with it in terms of power.  Don't know - don't care, but I do know it's not a high end card.  My problem with you came from a) your better-than-thou attitude you made very apparent coupled with b) your claim that the 8600 and 9400 were high end cards.

Lets just put all this garbage behind us.  Next time you come with a question, try to seem a little bit less arrogant, and I'll try not to snap so quick :)

Originally posted by URNotMega

Originally posted by akiira69 

That is my opinion on those types of games, we have state of the art game developing software(eg Maya 3D World Creator) and they make games using the Diablo 1 engine. to me its saying i dont care about the graphics part of the game. In my opinion a great game needs more than just a great storyline. but at the same time it also needs more than a great graphics engine. a great game has both killer graphics and a killer storyline to follow, to have 1 but not the other tells me that the game developer either doesnt care about the potential players they could attract ot doesnt care about the game it self. I will not waste time on a game that in my opinion the devs just slapped to gether using an out dated graphics engine. About my attitude in game forums, I have been playing online games sence about 1991(way before MMORPG's were ever thought of) with MUDs(Multi-User DomainsDungeons basically think of them as the grandfather of MMORPG's) I have seen games come and go, and yes Ive become somewhat of a grouch but its well founded and well placed. If you were to look through my eyes at the online game progression from BBS Boards to MUDs to MMORPG's youd be a little cynnical about things to. Especially towards people who think can tell a MMO Development team what they can and cannot do to their game. I have played more online games than I care to count Ive seen the best of online games and I have seen the worst of online games. Hell I even helped code a few MUDs myself, so excuse me for seeing how you respond to my thread for what it really is. And to me your posts are nothing but "Oh look he doesnt use the same vid card that I do so lets berate him over that choice". You didnt even bother to ask why I hated MMO's with 2D and 2.5D graphics you just took it that Im a snob(im not its just that when im paying for either extra goodies for a MMO or paying a monthly fee for a MMO i would want them to at least have decent graphics, and yes i do buy stuff from the stores for Free to Play MMO's and yes I do pay to play those that require a monthly subscription). And yes i notice the difference between the posts you make towards others and the posts you make towards me, and I am suprised by the difference between them, you are calm and civil towards them but the very first thing you say towards me is my choice in vid cards is a joke. Not all of us who play online and offline games have an unlimited budget to upgrade the systems, some of actually have things that are more important than a brand new spiffy vid card. I have rent I need to pay, utility bills I need to pay, phone bill, cable internet bill, cell phone bill, and groceries. No i didnt go through that sentence to make up a sob story on the first of every month i go thru all my bills pay them go out and by a months worth of groceries, after all that I have about $50-$70 USD and depending on the month I might have 2 pay to play MMO's active  so that is another $30 out of my check which limits me to $20-$40 a month to play with. After all of that I have very little left for fun, so excuse me if I dont go out and drop $200-$500 USD on a vid card that does a little more than one i pay $50 for. The only reason I mentioned the Vid Card size is every time I ask for help in getting a new game to play(whether it be offline or online) i always get asked what vid card im using and what size memory does it have.

 

Assuming you're being sincere, your intention seems to be far different from the attitude you portray.  I have nothing against someone who prefers a good looking game to a bad looking game.  Everyone's got their own opinion and I respect that.  I personally love pushing my graphics card to its limits, but I'm also a pretty hardcore gamer, so I love revisiting the old stuff (diablo 2, gemstone 3/4 - a MUD I've played on and off for years and years, chrono trigger, etc).

 

I also have no problem with whatever video card someone has.  The 8600 was a nicely priced, upper-mid-range card when it came out and an affordable way to get into DX10.  I don't know much about the 9400 but the way nVidia typically numbers things, I imagine that it might be lower end for gaming than the 8600, or perhaps on par with it in terms of power.  Don't know - don't care, but I do know it's not a high end card.  My problem with you came from a) your better-than-thou attitude you made very apparent coupled with b) your claim that the 8600 and 9400 were high end cards.

 

Lets just put all this garbage behind us.  Next time you come with a question, try to seem a little bit less arrogant, and I'll try not to snap so quick :)

He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. A $89 video card will give him DOUBLE the perfomance he is getting from a 8600. Nvm, people like to talk about stuff they don't know, that's the usual jerk for you.

 Let me shed some light on the video card issue. Simply put, the 9400 is the bottom of barrel of the 9 series, far from top of anything. The 8600 is a two generation old card, good in it's day, but struggles with today games. 20-35 FPS is NOT a decent framerate, usually you should turn your settings down with an FPS like that.  30-60 is more like a decent FPS. Personally, I run a 285GTX, really a top of the line card.

As for recommending a game, I can't. All I got was "I want something 3D that will challenge my old video card." In that case, go for WoW.

Originally posted by nickelpat

 Let me shed some light on the video card issue. Simply put, the 9400 is the bottom of barrel of the 9 series, far from top of anything. The 8600 is a two generation old card, good in it's day, but struggles with today games. 20-35 FPS is NOT a decent framerate, usually you should turn your settings down with an FPS like that.  30-60 is more like a decent FPS. Personally, I run a 285GTX, really a top of the line card.

As for recommending a game, I can't. All I got was "I want something 3D that will challenge my old video card." In that case, go for WoW.

Decent is at LEAST 40.

Originally posted by akiira69

Originally posted by eccoton

Originally posted by akiira69

Read above for EQ2, as for AC1 I played it for 4 and a Half years before I got bored with it, when I quit I had 2 max level characters(126 at the time) and 4 accounts that had enough weapons jewelry and armor to outfit atleast a dozen toons. Like I said there are very few I havent played, I wont play FPS games, I wont play 2D or 2.5D games(except for Diablo 3 I cant wait for this game to come out), I forgot to mention I wont play Browser based games either. If I had to pick a genre of games I like it would be fantasy, Ill give SciFi a shot but mainly I stick with Fantasy. I will not play Historical, Super-Hero, Horror, Real Life, or Sports. There are some exceptions to the rule so to speak like if they were to make a MMO based off The White Wolf Franchise I would play it, hell it would probably give The AD&D MMO being developed by Turbine a run for its money.

 

Have you tried Ryzom? I have not played it since its return but I played it for about 2 years prior and I highly recopmmend it. Someone with your experience should try it. You are expereinced and probably do not need your hand held. Ryzom might be a good choice for you.

 

I tried Ryzom when it was in beta didnt like the way it was so I never kept track after the devs brought it back in to alpha. If it has changed I might go back to it.

Ryzom; Sci-fi / fantasy, " P2P " PvE PvP: http://www.ryzom.com/en/index.html

It is nice that some people rang in with the truth in this thread. I tried to since the OP did claim his cards were top of the line and in an arrogant way, yet I still tried to offer suggestions to the original question. I responded originally because the statements about the OP's setup were simply ridiculos if you know anything about gaming hardware as many of us do. URNotMega although a bit sarcastic in his first response was right. I responded in a bit more gentle way but I was "the idiot". I mention the "idiot" comment not because I was offended. I mention it because someone was so insulted that I was trying to point out the OP was wrong about his claims of top of the line hardware. I was not putting him down but others felt I was.

I find it funny how people are about their games and equipment. These are just games and your equipment is just that, equipment. I am a bit of a technophile I admit this and people who know me will agree. I spend a lot of money/time on computers mainly for gaming. I do realize most people would view this as a bit over the top. However, I do not connect myself to this equipment or my love of certain games. I am not my games or equipment. We are entering a new time in human existance in how we relate to our electronics, connections, and technology. Games will get more immersive and we will live in two realities at the same time. I wonder how people will deal with this in the future. We get a little of the answer when reading simple threads in a game forum. It does not look to promising. Cultural anthropologists have a whole new area of study ahead.

Aside from the original question in this thread, it also points out how overly connected people are. People talked about someones mis-statement about a piece of electronic equipment and the insults started. One thing I have learned in over 37 years of electronic gaming (first system was, Magnovox Odyssey 2000 1972) I am not my equipment. If you are so tied to the cyber world, through games or other ways, that you start blurring the lines between yourself, your equipment and your time in cyber space it is time to disconnect. Of all the electronic gaming options mmorpgs seem to do this the most. I could write a 1000 page paper on this topic. But in short, some people need to disconnect for their own good and it seems many are mmo addicts. I am not saying the OP is a mmo addict but look how many games they have played and it seems plays many at the same time. Go to any number of threads at this site and you will see it over and over. People will neglect their real world for this cyber life. This seems to happen mostly with online gaming not offline gaming.

These comments were not direct specifically at the OP or anyone posting to this thread but it got me thinking about these issues.

Originally posted by Hannibp

Originally posted by akiira69

actually I use 1440x900(17" Widscreen on the Intel System 19" Widescreen on the AMD System)  on both my computers nd I never said that my cards were the best, all I said was why should I spend $220 on a card I can get the same performance out of one that considerbly cheaper. I also never said the RA like to know where you are getting this tM on a vid card makes a vid card uber. I really would like to know where you are getting all of this info. And as for games like World at War and crysis I dont bother playing those types of games FPS Offline(notice I say offline not online) pose no challenge for me because they are easy to defeat with cheats, that is why I play online games because it is impossible to cheat and not get caught even with PunkBuster on a FPS server its still easy to cheat and not get caught but to cheat and not get caught in a MMORPG is a real feat. the only games I play offline are CRPG's which also require heavy graphics cards.

 

1. Well, that resolution is as bad as the one I said, so it doesn't make any difference.

2. First of, you won't get the same perfomance from a $220 card, it will be much much better than yours, you are just too blind to realize that.

3. Yes, you said RAM matters, you said it on your first post, maybe you should remember what you say.

4. I never talked about World at War, I said World in Conflict, it's a strategy game. Btw, both games you are able to play online, and if you use cheats to beat a game, then it's your own fault. It doesn't make the game easier, it's just.. you are CHEATING. It's like saying, meh, olympics suck because I take steroids and am stronger than anyone else.

5. It's not impossible to cheat on an online game, and it is very easy to cheat on a MMORPG, ever heard of bots? Trainers? Buying in-game money, accounts or char with real money? That's all fairly easy, you just need MONEY.

CRPGs requiring heavy graphic cards? Don't make me laugh.



Again, get a clue what you are talking about. you don't even know what you said the day before.

PS: Playing on a 17" inch monitor... you really should stop talking about stuff you don't know.

1) The Resolution of a monitor does not set how a game runs just how you view a game.

2) I never said the perfomance was the same, I said why should i spend $220 when I can play the same game with one that costs $50.

3)I neve said RAM Matters I said its a driving force behind which games i can and cannot play.

4)I never said I cheat when playing an offline game, all I said was the opportunities to cheat in an offline game and have no reprecussions were higher than that of an online game. Also I do not play RTS games cause they do not pose a challenge to me. The only games that do are CRPG's, where there is an actualy challenge to stay either good or evil. In an RTS game there are set paramiters that one must follow to complete a level. I feel the same way about FPS games, only difference between RTS and FPS is that in a FPS its a FFA killing spree betwen the start of the level and the end of the level. In most of the new CRPG's you are given only a storyline and you choose how your character determines the outcome of the story.

5)I never  said it was impossinle to cheat in onlime games i said the possibilities to cheat and not get caught were slim to none.

6)I said 17' WIDESCREEN not 17" Plain there is a complete difference

You say I need to get a clue yet you nit pick at what I say and only comment on what you want to and more often than not you get it wrong learn to read before you comment then you might actually see what Im typing.

Please someone tell me when and where I said my cards were the best out. I would really like to know when I said this. I find it funny that people can take only what that want to read and place words in other peoples mouths. I never said my cards were the best, yet here are people claiming I did. The only thin I said was I can play wow on max settings, hell I said I could play EQ2 on max settings and took a screen shot with proof yet here are people basically calling me a liar. You know what forget the damn topic go back to your own sugar coated world where the only vid cards that matter to you are the ones in your own damn computer. Go back to the world where everyone can afford the same vid card you can because apparently you arent ready for the real world yet. I have tried to be civil, I have tried to make the point that not everyone can afford a $220 vid card but apparently it hasnt sunked in your thick skulls yet. I have tried not to be cross(and believe me if you think what I have said up till now is bad you havent seen the worst just think of what youve seen up till now is the calm before the storm. trust me when I say this you havent seen nothing yet if you keep attacking what i have said) this whole thread but you people just dont care what you say or how you attack others. you know what? I thought vnboards were the only place with this type of moronic attidue I guess I was wrong.

Edit: Oh about Ryzom. I beta tested it when it was called Saga of Ryzom. I didnt like it then what makes you think Ill like it now?

Originally posted by eccoton

I responded in a bit more gentle way but I was "the idiot". I mention the "idiot" comment not because I was offended. I mention it because someone was so insulted that I was trying to point out the OP was wrong about his claims of top of the line hardware. I was not putting him down but others felt I was.

Perhaps that wasn't the best choice of words -- typically, I am responding to someone who is behaving like an idiot, so I admit that it was my first inclination to respond in such a manner, but the comment was both inappropriate and rash in this circumstance, and it only resulted in making me seem childish, as I already said, so allow me to rephrase my thoughts and retract my initial comment:

After lambasting the OP for behaving arrogantly, you then had the audacity to post a photo of your computer, which, in my mind, is patently obvious hypocrisy. THAT was what irritated me. How did posting a photo of your hardware relate to trying clarify what you thought was a misconception about the quality of the OP's video cards? Yes, that seemed as condescending as anything the OP said at that time. If you wanted to show off your rig, perhaps this wasn't the best place to do it.

Apparently, you deliberately ignored a portion of my post; otherwise, you would have noticed that I also stated that I didn't understand why the fact that the OP can derive enjoyment from a "low-cost video card" seemed to exasperate you. I never mentioned thinking it was "top-of-the-line hardware." Either you can't read or you're trying to twist my words so as to have another connotation for them. Obviously, I believe the latter to be the case.

So, in case you again construe a different meaning from my words, let me reiterate the fact that what I initially said had nothing to do with being "insulted that [you were] trying to point out the OP was wrong about his claims of top of the line hardware." As I said, I believe that you already knew this, but that you're trying to convolute my intent. I think I already made a clear, concise explanation about my actual intent above, so there's little else to say.

EDIT:

OP:

After reading some of your more recent comments, particularly the "City of Warehouses" one, I think that the others are right about you to some degree. Such snide remarks, especially when people were offering you earnest suggestions, makes me question why I ever said anything in your defense to begin with.

Originally posted by akiira69

Please someone tell me when and where I said my cards were the best out. I would really like to know when I said this. I find it funny that people can take only what that want to read and place words in other peoples mouths. I never said my cards were the best, yet here are people claiming I did. The only thin I said was I can play wow on max settings, hell I said I could play EQ2 on max settings and took a screen shot with proof yet here are people basically calling me a liar. You know what forget the damn topic go back to your own sugar coated world where the only vid cards that matter to you are the ones in your own damn computer. Go back to the world where everyone can afford the same vid card you can because apparently you arent ready for the real world yet. I have tried to be civil, I have tried to make the point that not everyone can afford a $220 vid card but apparently it hasnt sunked in your thick skulls yet. I have tried not to be cross(and believe me if you think what I have said up till now is bad you havent seen the worst just think of what youve seen up till now is the calm before the storm. trust me when I say this you havent seen nothing yet if you keep attacking what i have said) this whole thread but you people just dont care what you say or how you attack others. you know what? I thought vnboards were the only place with this type of moronic attidue I guess I was wrong.

Edit: Oh about Ryzom. I beta tested it when it was called Saga of Ryzom. I didnt like it then what makes you think Ill like it now?

Akiira69, There's a nice little button called BLOCK just above or next to the report button, these can work wonders, use them.

As for Ryzom, nothing makes me think you would or wouldn't like it now, it's up to you to go find out and give it a second chance if you like it, as for me I'm playing TCoS and Mabinogi :)