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  handshakes

Novice Member

Joined: 3/19/04
Posts: 73

Why does it hurt when I pee?

4/02/09 10:28:21 AM#26

About time!

 

See you in Hyboria.

 

Unless this is an April Fool's joke in which case this is the cruelest thing ever.

Why does it hurt when I pee?

  Cynthe

Novice Member

Joined: 5/22/06
Posts: 1414

Dreamer, dream me a gift.

4/02/09 10:33:07 AM#27
Originally posted by bryan1980

1.05 is  months away, probably June.

Honestly though, I don't get this at all.  They are not allowing vets to return.  The biggest problem the game had at launch was the huge dropoff in quality after tortage.  If vet players come back on a free account, all they are going to see is tortage again and they won't believe anything has changed past lvl 20. 

 

Not that this is a perfect solution but most people have more then one email address.

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  abal

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 171

4/02/09 10:45:48 AM#28

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57

  AmazingAvery

Age of Conan Advocate

Joined: 1/16/07
Posts: 6972

The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them.

4/02/09 10:53:35 AM#29

Couple of things to remember:

Server List looks like this now:

N.American servers:

Fresh Start Servers:

Agony PvP

Ironspire PvE


Set (PvE)
* Damballah
* Bardisattva
* Dagoth
* Derketo
* Hanuman

Wiccana (PvE)
* Mannanan
* Ajujo
* Thog
* Zug
* Omm

Gwahlur (PvE - Oceaninc)

Tyranny (PvP)
* Scourge
* Bluesteel
* Stormrage
* Deathwhisper
* Doomsayer
* Shadowblade

Cimmeria (PvP-RP)
* Bane

Bloodspire (PvP - Oceanic) - merged on 7th January 2009)
* Hyperborea
 

Agony, Ironspire and Bloodspire don't have the best populations at the moment they aren't that bad just growing. Can't really go wrong for population on the others. All depends on tastes. Best to read the sever specific Official forums to find which you like the look of really.
 

EU Servers :


English Servers


Fresh Start Servers:

Blackscar (PVE)

Skullcrusher (PVP)

 

Crom (PVE)
* Ymir
* Bori
* Bloodbrand (Ahriman)
* Dagon

Hyrkania (PVE-RP)

Fury (PvP)
* Battlescar
* Wildsoul
* Soulstorm
* Twilight

Aquilonia (PvP-RP)
* Corinthia

 

German Servers


Mitra (PvE)
* Ibis
* Asura

Aries (PvP)
* Titus

Asgard (PvP-RP)

 

French Servers


Ishtar (PvE)

Ferox (PvP)
* Strix

Stygia (PvP-RP)

 

Spanish Servers


Zingara (PvE)

Indomitus (PvP)

 

Polish Servers

Rothat (PvE)

Balthus (PvP)

 

Russian Servers

Scarlet Citadel (PvE)

Moon of Blood (PvP)

 

All servers existing are the ones in Blue, the other ones with Asterix infront got merged into the above blue server.

Second thing to remember is that the trial is limited just like in other game free trials.

Upon entering your key on your account page this is what it says:

"Welcome to the free 7 day trial of Age of Conan. Get ready for the most savage, sexy and brutal MMO ever created! The 7 days of free playtime will start from the first time you log into the game. Please note that trial accounts have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels, inability to post on forums and inability to send in-game mail. All these restrictions are lifted once you upgrade your account to the full version of the game.

The client you are about to download contains everything you require to start playing the game. Through the patcher you may elect to download the rest of the game at your own convenience. This is not needed before you reach level 20.

To continue playing after the trial period, you must purchase the full game. This is available for only $19.99 and includes an additional 30 days gametime.

IMPORTANT: Please ensure that you have selected the correct version of the game as the US version will not work on the EU servers."

(Abal - was typing as you posted LOL)


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  User Deleted
4/02/09 10:54:28 AM#30
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

  abal

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 171

4/02/09 10:59:15 AM#31

No, the trial is not limited to Tortage. The trial is limited to 7 or 14 days depending on where you obtain your trial key.

 

What they are saying is that the trial patcher gives you two options, either download initially just the tortage part and when you finish tortage, download the rest of the client or on the other hand, you can choose to download the full client right from the start so you don't have to do it afterwards.

 

Hope that's clear enough for you.

  User Deleted
4/02/09 11:02:50 AM#32
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

Wise...

You're my guy.  I usually enjoy what you have to say.  You seem educated and well read, but did ya even read what they said?

Players have a choice to DL the Trial (Tortage only) or the Full client DL.

Nowhere did I read the "Trial" is limited to Tortage unless that's how you DL it.

  User Deleted
4/02/09 11:07:04 AM#33
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

I think you need to read it all other then just the bits you want to focus on. Grats on making yourself look like a fool tho :)

  User Deleted
4/02/09 11:09:38 AM#34

everything equal now even if its going f2p

i would never touch this again

  sassoonss

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/16/07
Posts: 941

4/02/09 11:19:23 AM#35
Originally posted by Jackdog

wonder if you have to enter credit card info to get in. Just thinking about some of the threads I have seen on here lately.


 

no credit  card required

  VultureSkull

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/02/07
Posts: 1711

4/02/09 11:28:47 AM#36
Originally posted by kraizy

everything equal now even if its going f2p

i would never touch this again


 

Then what attracts you to this area of the forum? Seriously i am curious?

  Neale123

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/06
Posts: 62

4/02/09 11:36:50 AM#37

i got this game at release and quit becuase of bugs etc, is it possible to install and patch from the discs for the trial? any info will be great. maybe someone who plays the game and tried the trial account maybe to confirm this before i send the night patching for nothing. Cheers

  replicant

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/04
Posts: 8

"Be resolute, fear no sacrifice and surmount every
difficulty to win victory." - Mao

4/02/09 11:39:54 AM#38

Error:
Logging in. Your account has not been verified. Please use the Manage Account button for futher information. (24)

Anybody have an idea on how I can rectify this? I have 2 trial accounts showing as Open and Playable. They are both US accounts and the trial client is US. I have verified forum name, e-mail, and everything I can see that it allows me to verify and filled in all information except that which is exclusive to billing. Would appreciate any help possible with this issue.

  abal

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 171

4/02/09 11:41:52 AM#39
Originally posted by replicant

Error:
Logging in. Your account has not been verified. Please use the Manage Account button for futher information. (24)

Anybody have an idea on how I can rectify this? I have 2 trial accounts showing as Open and Playable. They are both US accounts and the trial client is US. I have verified forum name, e-mail, and everything I can see that it allows me to verify and filled in all information except that which is exclusive to billing. Would appreciate any help possible with this issue.

 

Did they email you to verify your email address? Check your spam folder.

  abal

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 171

4/02/09 11:43:08 AM#40
Originally posted by Neale123

i got this game at release and quit becuase of bugs etc, is it possible to install and patch from the discs for the trial? any info will be great. maybe someone who plays the game and tried the trial account maybe to confirm this before i send the night patching for nothing. Cheers

 

Yes, you can use the original discs to install the game, then let the patcher patch the game to the latest version 1.4.6

 

Then you can use your trial credentials to login into the game.

  VultureSkull

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/02/07
Posts: 1711

4/02/09 11:43:54 AM#41
Originally posted by Neale123

i got this game at release and quit becuase of bugs etc, is it possible to install and patch from the discs for the trial? any info will be great. maybe someone who plays the game and tried the trial account maybe to confirm this before i send the night patching for nothing. Cheers


 

Yes this is possible, someone asked the exact same question and it was confirmed that it is possible.

  replicant

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/04
Posts: 8

"Be resolute, fear no sacrifice and surmount every
difficulty to win victory." - Mao

4/02/09 11:51:52 AM#42


Originally posted by abal
Did they email you to verify your email address? Check your spam folder.

Yes, they sent 2 seperate e-mail verifications and both went through with the green verified message.

  AmazingAvery

Age of Conan Advocate

Joined: 1/16/07
Posts: 6972

The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them.

4/02/09 12:14:58 PM#43

I just started a new guy on Wiccana to see how things go + I need to level up a Bear Shaman there :P

Anyone interested in teaming up just send a PM :)


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  User Deleted
4/02/09 12:17:27 PM#44
Originally posted by replicant

 


Originally posted by abal
Did they email you to verify your email address? Check your spam folder.

 

Yes, they sent 2 seperate e-mail verifications and both went through with the green verified message.

Yep, count me in with this issue as well.

Not a good sign.  Going to check out the main site to see if this hopefully can be rectified.   Otherwise, meh it's an easy uninstall.

  abal

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 171

4/02/09 12:24:35 PM#45
Originally posted by EbonHawk
Originally posted by replicant

 


Originally posted by abal
Did they email you to verify your email address? Check your spam folder.

 

Yes, they sent 2 seperate e-mail verifications and both went through with the green verified message.

Yep, count me in with this issue as well.

Not a good sign.  Going to check out the main site to see if this hopefully can be rectified.   Otherwise, meh it's an easy uninstall.

 

Don't throw in the towel just yet. I remember that when I came back to the game and activated my old account using a credit card that it took around 30m for the system to process all data. I would suggest waiting at least that long and if the problem is still occurring, then I suggest posting your issue at:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28

 

Hope everything works well in the end for you.

 

  User Deleted
4/02/09 12:37:09 PM#46
Originally posted by Crashloop
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

I think you need to read it all other then just the bits you want to focus on. Grats on making yourself look like a fool tho :)

You're calling me a fool and you apparently haven't tread the part YOU highlighted.
 

So you can download either the full client or the small Tortage client to access the trial. That still leaves open what the trial content consist of.

Now if you can show a quote saying "you have access to the full game during the trial" that I may have missed somewhere, i'd love to see it since that would make the trial actually worth trying out.

The big client is there to make it easy to subscribe after the trial.

They do the same with Anarchy Online. A free account can download and use the full client which has all content, but you are still denied acces to anything more than what the free game entails. It is to make it easy for you to subscribe without having to download more.

  User Deleted
4/02/09 12:40:53 PM#47
Originally posted by abal
Originally posted by EbonHawk
Originally posted by replicant

 


Originally posted by abal
Did they email you to verify your email address? Check your spam folder.

 

Yes, they sent 2 seperate e-mail verifications and both went through with the green verified message.

Yep, count me in with this issue as well.

Not a good sign.  Going to check out the main site to see if this hopefully can be rectified.   Otherwise, meh it's an easy uninstall.

 

Don't throw in the towel just yet. I remember that when I came back to the game and activated my old account using a credit card that it took around 30m for the system to process all data. I would suggest waiting at least that long and if the problem is still occurring, then I suggest posting your issue at:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28

 

Hope everything works well in the end for you.

 

lol...  Nah, I'm fairly stubborn when it comes to throwing in the towel...

Anyway problem has been solved (miscommunication on both our parts).  Support was helpful and prompt.  So +1 for them.

Going to give it a go now. Thanks.

  AmazingAvery

Age of Conan Advocate

Joined: 1/16/07
Posts: 6972

The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them.

4/02/09 12:46:04 PM#48
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by Crashloop
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

I think you need to read it all other then just the bits you want to focus on. Grats on making yourself look like a fool tho :)

You're calling me a fool and you apparently haven't tread the part YOU highlighted.
 

So you can download either the full client or the small Tortage client to access the trial. That still leaves open what the trial content consist of.

Now if you can show a quote saying "you have access to the full game during the trial" that I may have missed somewhere, i'd love to see it since that would make the trial actually worth trying out.


 

Oh man. You have access to the full game area with the trial:  http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/230881

People have the option of just Downloading the Tortage part instead of all 14GB to check the game out, if they want to progress the game will update via the patcher at level 20.

This covers those ppl who just may want to take a peek, or see if performance is ok for them, and to get a quick glimpse.

 


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4/02/09 12:50:56 PM#49
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by Crashloop
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by abal

Some more info from Tarib taken from the official forums concerning trial accounts subject:

 

Trial players can choose to download the full client right from the start too if they wish to do that. So yes, if a full client is available (by getting it from another player for example), they will have access to the content.

The possibility to have a reduced client which contains Tortage was offered to be able to have a smaller download size of the trial client to start with.

About the topic of items mentioned above: those are given to trial players by chosen partners who help spread the news about the availability of the free trials. It is a common way to let more people know and raise interest in the game.

But I can understand the point that some players voice that they were not given the chance to attain the same items when they joined the game. Like the Snow Mammoth being offered to new registrations a while ago or the items now being given to trial players coming in from various partner websites. It is a little bit like when games bring out new expansions that let newcomers to the game level much faster and gain access to higher level gear that was ever available at the time when the game released or one or two expansions back. We are aware that veteran players should be rewarded in one way or another too. It is a topic that we will look into and hopefully will be able to inform you about soon.

 

On another (or somewhat similar?) topic I have been asked about ... Trial accounts also do have some restrictions to them, the most noticeable are inability to trade with others, restrictions to use public channels and inability to send in-game mail. These are there to prevent some other 'habits' that showed up in the past few years.

 

Source:

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255422&postcount=54

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=1255448&postcount=57


 

Wait. So the trial is limited to Tortage?

LOL

They're doing the same shit they did with the "open" beta.

I think you need to read it all other then just the bits you want to focus on. Grats on making yourself look like a fool tho :)

You're calling me a fool and you apparently haven't tread the part YOU highlighted.
 

So you can download either the full client or the small Tortage client to access the trial. That still leaves open what the trial content consist of.

Now if you can show a quote saying "you have access to the full game during the trial" that I may have missed somewhere, i'd love to see it since that would make the trial actually worth trying out.

The big client is there to make it easy to subscribe after the trial.

They do the same with Anarchy Online. A free account can download and use the full client which has all content, but you are still denied acces to anything more than what the free game entails. It is to make it easy for you to subscribe without having to download more.

>.<

I will be going out now, and will see what goodies I can throw in your face, avery allready spilled the ace tho :(

But yeah I see you maneged it again. Grats :D

  Volgore

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4/02/09 3:19:18 PM#50

As i'm typing this, i'm also installing the game to check out the trial and to see the changes made to the game. I left the beta in anger (sold my beta-acc on ebay to a poor fool), still gave the "final" game a try and left it cussing and swearing as well.

I really would like to play the trial with my former characters (assuming they still exist somewhere), 7 days free for vets would be the better thing for me.

However, the plan for tonight is to lead at last one char to Toratage before going to bed. Cheers everyone!

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