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MMORPG.com World of Warcraft Correspondent Deborah Dietrich writes this look at WoW, 3.1 Update.
Read Preparing for 3.1 Cheers, |
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cool thx for the post stradden i need to get back into this game. been out of it for like 2 weeks cuz ive been so busy |
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 Why do you keep calling it an Expansion? its just an update, an expansion is a update like BC and WOTLK. Just wanted to clear that up incase any noobs are reading :) |
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Originally posted by Marcelino
Expansions add to the game, and Uludar is certainly adding to the game, though I do see where you are coming from, it's a matter of semantics really :) |
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Originally posted by Sirr0
Expansions add to the game, and Uludar is certainly adding to the game, though I do see where you are coming from, it's a matter of semantics really :) I think the "correct" term is content update or content patch. But yeah it is just semantics but usually "expansion" means a lot more than in an update. 3.1 certainly will be like a mini-expansion thought. There is some major content coming (besides Ulduar) along with major, fundamental changes to the game. I am certainly looking forward to it. |
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So if I create a character and "add" it to the game I guess I am creating an expansion. Under the pretense I am adding to the game. Sometimes I feel that it's useless to actually speak my mind on this "general" chat for we are confined by (mod edit) Earl Lothar Loc'Nar |
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I just read the patch notes, I'm not seeing how this is a content update, all i see are bug fixes and more tweaking.
Anyone care to give bullet points, the article writer seems to only have talking about how things are going to depreciate in worth, due to the changes. So, how is this major, and what content is being added, like i said, all i see are changes and bug fixes.
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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth Thw two major things I was referring too are: 1. Ulduar - The raid is pretty big and has a lot of bosses. Some of the boss encounters are very unique and interesting and between the numerous hard modes and options with some of the fights, it is much more than a straight up raid. 2. The more interesting thing for me is the Argent Tournament. It is a really interesting PvE related event. Here is a link to it: http://www.wowinsider.com/guide-to-the-argent-tournament/ It reminds me a lot of the gate building event in EQ2 and it is interesting that it is supposed to span a long amount of time (WOW Insider says it won't be done before 3.2 comes and one can assume that will be late Summer at the earliest). I think its a great event and hope its done well. So in a way, I guess you could that this isn't so much about Blizzard adding content, but players creating it (given however the tournament comes out).
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It seems all they can come up with is new reputation items grinder. That's one of the reason i left wow, you cant buy anything with gold these days, you have to grind for everything. |
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Originally posted by Aguitha
Idiotic statement because Wow has the least grind feeling of all fantasy mmorpg's these days (daily open world PvPquests, tabards that eleminate the mindless kiling, the minigames quests and gear based on competitive PvP ladder systems, etc ...) NO the real innovative thing in patch 3.1 is dual specs Meaning omnivalent classes can be full healer/full tank or full DPS class just by having 2 talent point settings and choosing with ONE button to become a tank or healer. Watch the activity in the dungeons (as from level 40) go up by 200%. No more waiting for that healer/tank. The pure DPS classes are even better off: they can spec PVE AND PVP in their 61 deep talent point setting. Add to this the ONE button change in the full change gear selection and you have a winner. -- Again a winning strike which will widen the gap between WoW and the "wannabees". With EACH major content patch World of Warcraft widens the gap between what people like to play and the morons who think they know something about gaming. It suits me: it makes those idiotic Wow haters even more frustrated.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
Idiotic statement because Wow has the least grind feeling of all fantasy mmorpg's these days (daily open world PvPquests, tabards that eleminate the mindless kiling, the minigames quests and gear based on competitive PvP ladder systems, etc ...) NO the real innovative thing in patch 3.1 is dual specs Meaning omnivalent classes can be full healer/full tank or full DPS class just by having 2 talent point settings and choosing with ONE button to become a tank or healer. Watch the activity in the dungeons (as from level 40) go up by 200%. No more waiting for that healer/tank. The pure DPS classes are even better off: they can spec PVE AND PVP in their 61 deep talent point setting. Add to this the ONE button change in the full change gear selection and you have a winner. -- Again a winning strike which will widen the gap between WoW and the "wannabees". With EACH major content patch World of Warcraft widens the gap between what people like to play and the morons who think they know something about gaming. It suits me: it makes those idiotic Wow haters even more frustrated.
Zing! What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Except that the dual-spec ability will cost an inordinate amount of gold, so only the people with 'mains' and a lot of extra cash will be willing and able to DS their alts. So, I very much doubt the lower instances will get any more love than they do, right now; which is to say: next to none (unless you're high-level and are kind enough to drag a low-level or four through, while you go for the achievements you missed whilst levelling). I guess I'm sad, in that I actually miss the hour-or-two hell-for-leather runs through Scholo and UBRS, or the timed runs through Strat, that actually took skill and a moderately clued-up group. :P You just don't get that buzz, any more, especially with the arguably "care-bear" heroics that are available, now, and I fully expect new instances to be worse, with what's-his-face leaving (or having left) Bliz. Don't get me wrong: I'm looking forward to Ulduar and the ability to dual-spec... but the grind is still no better than before (regardless of whether it's better than other games or not), PvP still sucks (opinion from 3 years on a PvP realm) and Battlegrounds are still unbelievably biased towards one side or another, due to a badly designed battlegroup mechanic. People may not agree, of course - but that doesn't make me wrong. ;) |
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Originally posted by Marcelino
eve trodites call their content updates an expansion - whats the difference. this patch definitely expands the game - more so that additonal empty space. then theres the argent tourny, some kind of jousting and prizes and games, its looking like a great patch. also how did whoever it was conclude that no content was being added...thats just fucking stupid. anyway i still cant fathom why people come to wow posts to boast about how their superior intelect gains them the ability to dislike a game.
This patch looks grand, and the timing is nearly perfect - the core raiders - now sorry thats not the top 1% anymore boo-fucking-hoo -but the top 30% are all but ready. the pacing is great so far, i hope it carries on at this rate, i feel i had enough time to bask in my early epics and more than enough time to prepare while others geared a little slower. i think its great everyone gets to gear up. but ofc, lets pretend the games pants and it blows and what not. yeah hooray for bashing wow its so goddamned cool i get a hard on over it Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man! |
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Well when you consider how much content is being added it is certainly close to being an expansion. Basically this is the rest of the stuff they wanted in Lich King, but it was not vetted enough yet. Blizzard and Turbine continue to update their games as much through updates as through expansions. |
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(Ok - I'll try not to seem like a troll this time :-) ) People actually complained about having to travel to level up fishing? There's already no sense of epic achievement upon reaching 80 in WotLK, as there was reaching 60 in original WoW. I think an awful lot of players must hate levelling and Blizzard seems to only listen to them. It is really very frustrating how WoW is becoming a Quake-like Diablo clone if that makes sense. One wonders what point _any_ levelling serves given there's so little regard for it. Maybe a Diablo 3 (even without the great dark and forboding art of 1 & 2 - it's been WoWified) will attract some of these players away and there can be just a tad more focus on what made original WoW and other MMORPGs like EQ fun to play. Cause call me crazy - but if people complain levelling in WoW is boring - maybe Blizzard should do something to make it _more_ exciting, rather than continually depreciate it to the point where it's even MORE boring cause it's been made so easy and the callenge is gone. -- |
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Originally posted by Myrathi Except that the dual-spec ability will cost an inordinate amount of gold, so only the people with 'mains' and a lot of extra cash will be willing and able to DS their alts. I do not think 1000 gold is an inordinate amount. Just questing last night, I made 300-400 gold easily and that;s just selling junk and quest rewards. In my opinion, you really do not need DS before level 70 anyway, because most people have friends or guilds that are max level and can rapidly run you through an instance. And by level 70 you will have 1000 gold or more. DS isn't available until level 40 anyway and I see no need to DS then or anytime near then. Old players will know the spec they want to level with and new players may get over-whelmed with two specs and trying to balnace gear and skill to do more than 1 spec. I cannot wait to see all the DS tanks and healers try to think they know how to tank or heal just because they can. |
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wary: i still cant fathom why people come to wow posts to boast about how their superior intelect gains them the ability to dislike a game. LOL one of the best statements ever! I get so sick of people riding a false superiority horse just because they play some other game they like better. Those people don't know how 'dumb as a post' they sound. No pun intended. WoW has it's flaws, but I've never played an MMO that didn't irritate me in some ways. It's a great game. That doesn't mean it's 'better' than EQ2, Asheron's Call, Eve, etc, etc, those games are great too. Their qualities don't diminish WoW any more than WoW's diminishes theirs. I didn't stop (or start with) reading fantasy fiction because the Lord of the Rings trilogy was one of the best fantasies at the time it was written; I continued to read different books by different authors with different styles - and even (gasp!) read outside the genre. The point is almost no one reads (who actually reads) just one book, why would anyone stop with just one MMO over the years? I mean, I've read Tolkien's work 3 times, that's enough for me! Move on, nothing more to see here. Just like reading, as well, I get sick of the whole MMO genre, so have to take a break from them all, too (I've been playing MMO's since the first year of EQ).
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall |
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It looks good,hope we can get more and more happiness in the newest version.Thanks for WOW team!^ ^ |
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