Originally posted by hipiap

At this point, anyone from before then has serious psychological issues if they are still ranting over OMG NGE FTL or crap like that.

Where did you get your degree in psychology?

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by hipiap

At this point, anyone from before then has serious psychological issues if they are still ranting over OMG NGE FTL or crap like that.

Where did you get your degree in psychology?

I dont' know, it seems a bit logical that anyone angry, actually angry over all this time can't really move on. Don't think you need a degree for this one. Just perspective.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by hipiap

At this point, anyone from before then has serious psychological issues if they are still ranting over OMG NGE FTL or crap like that.

Where did you get your degree in psychology?

 I dont' know, it seems a bit logical that anyone angry, actually angry over all this time can't really move on. Don't think you need a degree for this one. Just perspective.

And where did you study logic?

I put 3 years into SWG, it was my first MMO and i loved it, i spent so much time on it and most of my offline time organising things and searchign for info on different aspecs etc that i became a hermit (sad i know but true). I was one phase change away from becoming a Jedi when the NGE happened, this annoyed me so much i left the game for a week to calm down, i gave the NGE a try for 2 months and then cancelled my accounts.

I can't speak for anyone else but the main reason i lost faith is the fact that no one needed to see crafters on a regular basis after the NGE, therfore making crafters obsolete and the once great economy that no one has managed to match never mind rival was extinct. The moment the NGE went live the Jedi population (which in the timeframe the game is set in should have been minimal) boosted so fast that i could swear at least 80% of players were Jedi, this is because instead of the months of hard work you had to put in to become a jedi were gone and you could select Jedi as a starting profession...

SOE you made a huge mistake by simplifying the game just to try and get more subs, you shot yourselves in the foot and lost your loyal players. I hope Your losing mass amounts of money on SWG because of this.

I didn't want to bring this up but seeing as the thread is listed as "We're Angry at SOE" and not not specifically aimed at SWG devs, i will..  i tried Vanguard and you screwed that up at the beginning too, i have friends that have left Everquest games because of some changes in there too.  sounds to me like instead of looking after your loyal members who have paid your wages for years your more interested in alienating everyone..  such a shame as i'd have still been in SWG today if it wasn't for your money grabbing attempts at getting more subs.

I started playing swg eight months after release.  For myself swg was an awesome mmo and I left EQ to jump aboard and join the community of swg players.  But right from the start I encountered problems such as latency problems  missing inventory items and character problems. It would seem that swg was released to early and yet the community still wanted to play the mmo just because I believe that the community where star war fans.

Crafters had a wet dream about crafting and the system was inovative and aloud for crafters too have a sense of involvement or any profession that you choose. Mind you the system was not perfect but as a swg community we acted as a community.  Also players who wanted too pvp had too prepare for pvp. Eating the right foods which kept the crafters busy and buffed  pvp/pve players.

Many players had muliple account some had 12 accounts and you could only have one character per account. And many where nurses , police officers , workers , students and others who made up the community.

When the last expansion ( Trials of Obi-Wan ) was released alot of people paid for a one year subscription to swg and two weeks without warning  the NGE made its introduction.  We as a community asked for a rollback which was normal when SOE brought down a unwanted patch and SOE had said 'NO" to us.

We asked for answers and why the NGE and they said "NO" and we asked for our subscription back for the year and the answer was 'NO".  Its been a few years since the NGE came out SOE should be able too understand that the community has said  "NO" to them.

They have said 'NO" to a swg classic server its time to say "YES" before the new SWG is released.

This game was so great before the Hologrind, such a sense of community and such great PvP battles. I remember how much fun going into Anchorhead with our AT-STs was, and having random Rebels call you Imperial scum. Creature Handler in general and the thrill of taming your first Rancor baby. Even afterwards, it was still decent despite the masses of people grinding random proffessions. Commandos, and how they started the general use of armor and buffs. The melee stackers... good times. Even Bounty Hunting and killing your first Jedi player. This game could have been so great if they had spent their time adding content instead of combat revamps that were not needed. A few more dungeons done well, some more content for the GCW, and it would have been perfect. It's too bad they gave up on the skill based character development so quickly. Jedi were handled pretty poorly as well, but that's another issue.

I think this thread is a great idea. I played SWG when it first came out and unlike the majority of these so called Vets i remember how broken the game truly was.  SWG precu was not some mmo paradise.  It had 32 classes, 30 of which were typicallly broken at the same time forcing everyone to migrate to one or two flavor of the month classes.  Questing consisted of grinding the same kill this mobs hideout quest and every one and their mother wore composite armor.

I really hope that they do start banning people who religiously hijack threads on this board.  I dont play the game now but like to check up on here to see whats new yet every thread someone who still PLAYS the game posts gets taken over by people angry at changes that happened years ago. 

If you hate the game, dont play and move on.

Seems fitting my first post here should be in this thread.  I am a PreNGE vet, and just left because of all the crap that SOE pulled over the past few years and finally just made it the most boring of MMOs, from what started to be a great MMO idea.  The move the the NGE was the worst idea in MMO history.  Well, I am in limbo until Stargate Worlds or the new Star Wars MMO comes out.  Might jump around to some of the others now again but for now, SOE has lost itself another one.

http://stargate.mgm.com/specialops/link.php?link=32&id=6769

Since leaving swg I have played wow (twice) guild wars, vanguard, aoc, warhammer, and you know what, they crap in comparison. SWG was so far ahead its just not funny so I may have said before but eff u SOE, go kiss my hairy yellow butt lol.

Oh swg vets are gods with supreme intelligence, just look at all the feckin fanboi's out there playing lesser games and singing their praises.

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Originally posted by Unforgetable

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I agree.

I didnt read all 666 posts before posting mythoughts.  However what I have seen in the posts that I did read is a consistent theme.  How much fun we all had at the beggining!  I started SWG just a few days after launch.  It was my first mmo and I played for hours everyday.  I made friendships that will last a lifetime.  Like many others I have kept my subs just to log in a few times a year to see whats going on.  I know that there are many viewpoints as to why the game is not longer liked..  But I think we all agree that at one time it was the best around.  I truly hope that Bioware is reading this thread.  I hope it's game brings us all back together. 

Hmmm in the words of Yoda...

"SOE Baaaad"

/sign

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Originally posted by Deadlobster
Since leaving swg I have played wow (twice) guild wars, vanguard, aoc, warhammer, and you know what, they crap in comparison. SWG was so far ahead its just not funny so I may have said before but eff u SOE, go kiss my hairy yellow butt lol.
 
Oh swg vets are gods with supreme intelligence, just look at all the feckin fanboi's out there playing lesser games and singing their praises.

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The devs interaction with the playerbase is one of the most important things for me, NCSoft tried their best with Tabula Rasa after Gariot abandoned it but it was too little too late, the devs talked with us nearly every day in game and took our feedback in.

On the other hand, Treyarch is starting to look alot like another SOE, they leave smartass comments and don't answer player's questions and they only seem to care about the XBox 360 version, pretty sad with a very popular game that has to come with such a rotten dev team (and they never fixed the glitches and bugs that existed in Call of Duty 3 after 3 years).

Originally posted by morock

I didnt read all 666 posts before posting mythoughts.  However what I have seen in the posts that I did read is a consistent theme.  How much fun we all had at the beggining!  I started SWG just a few days after launch.  It was my first mmo and I played for hours everyday.  I made friendships that will last a lifetime.  Like many others I have kept my subs just to log in a few times a year to see whats going on.  I know that there are many viewpoints as to why the game is not longer liked..  But I think we all agree that at one time it was the best around.  I truly hope that Bioware is reading this thread.  I hope it's game brings us all back together. 

It's been stated in the SWTOR forums, both on MMORPG and SWTOR official forums that SWTOR will be nothing like SWG.  It will be a linear, level based system.  Also, from what I've read, seems like it is going to be a solo RPG with many players on the same server rather than a true MMO.  I was excited when this was finally anounced back in October, but with the information released and the cheezy graphics, I will take a pass unless they make vast changes prior to release.  I too, miss the early, sandbox, skill tree days of SWG.

Please note that the solo RPG accusation is pure speculation base on my interpretations of what I've read and seen.  I hope my speculation turns out to be false.

This is truly a sad story of the life and death of an MMO.  Sony as a company is very arrogant.  I learned that going to trade shows and dealing with them.  Basically their motto is "We are Sony and we know what is good for you".   I hope other devs learn from this and take it to heart...their career could depend on it.

I beleive we are still very angry with SOE.

 why dont you guys open up a classic server and watch the floodgates open? or are you afraid your lame NGE will become

D E A D!?  seriously though why not? DAMNIT AT THE VERY LEAST WE DESERVE AN APOLOGY!! 

Leoron:  SWG! , you're breaking my heart! And you're going down a path I cannot follow!
SONY:    Because of  Trials of Obi-Wan?
Leoron:  Because of what you've done... what you plan to do! Stop! Stop now; come back... I love you!

o the feeling of unlocking a jedi 

I'm even angrier at SOE now than I was when they took a dump and shat out the NGE, because back then I didn't realize there wouldn't be a comparable sandbox game coming out within my lifetime.