Originally posted by IAmMMO

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Patience........., if the optimisation they did on the DX9 version is anything to go by i am sure that they will get DX10 right as well.

But do expect an overall drop regardless as all those nice effects must come at a price.

 

  DX10 allows more things on screen  at the same time and renders them far quicker than dx9 would be able to do it. The only problem with AOC is it's not a true dx10 game. It's still dx9 with some dx10 element layered on, mainly lighting.

The game looks really good on just DX9 you can't deny that. Any increase from those graphics just makes this game look even that much better than the rest = D

Originally posted by unithrow

Last time I played this game I had this rig:

8800GTS 320mb

Q6600 2.4GHZ

4Gig DDR2 1066

I could run mostly high graphics at about 30 FPS, was only the cities that slowed it down a bit. Haven't played with new stuff yet. I expect my currect setup can do around 30-40FPS on all high settings anywhere, and with 2nd video card I will get around 40 at highest settings. I will let you know my results though, I am also interested in my DX10 performance.

Shadows are the single most heavy hitting setting that a modern video card has to deal with. If you guys disable them you will see a REMARKABLE increase in performance, you can up other settings as well. If your card does not have enough video memory (eg <512mb) then Antialiasing will also be a major dump. If you have one of the modern vid cards with 1gig you should be able to run AA at x8 or x16 no problem. Another thing you can do, if you have again over 512mb of video ram is turn on triple buffering, depending on the game your FPS will jump about 10-20fps in any situation. This is only possible if you have enough video ram.

Triple Buff + AA chews up a bit of ram, so make sure you have enough or enabling triple buffering with AA enabled will actually decrease performance.

its the exact same thing i have on my PC in which i run AoC, the only diffrence is that i have a G92 card, 8800GTS512.

i have evrything on high x16, shadows, etc... the frame rate only drops below 30 inside Old Tarantia and some other heavilly populated cities... outside of the cities its running 40~70  and smouth, and indoors or inside dungeons it is usually over 80+

My frames went from 40-50fpst to 15-20fps with the dx10 client. I might by a quad core cpu and mobo and see if that helps, anyone running quad ?

If you dont have PC good enough to play AoC in DX10, play it in DX9.

If you think that you have PC good enough to run it in DX10, post your specs on official feedback thread.

Posting here is quite pointless and if anyone thinks that he will run DX10 just like DX9 they are stupid. Just look at other DX10 games, where DX10 makes no visible difference from DX10, but FPS goes down by half. Also if your card have DX10 doesnt mean that card can actually handle it (but you are only bitching about FC).

If you want to play the game use DX9

If you want to watch screenshots use DX10

10 FPS is not bad while doing PVP !  Patience !  Its only 9 months since DX10 was supposed to be in the game.  Who cares if another 9 past by before it actually runs.

Now ppl can't say DX10 isn't in the game... Even tho its only in the form of screenshots !

Here is the difference, I'm not a test, no one on live is, they are paying subscribers.  Pay to test is a bad module in my opinion.

Originally posted by Frobner

If you want to play the game use DX9

If you want to watch screenshots use DX10

10 FPS is not bad while doing PVP !  Patience !  Its only 9 months since DX10 was supposed to be in the game.  Who cares if another 9 past by before it actually runs.

Now ppl can't say DX10 isn't in the game... Even tho its only in the form of screenshots !

yes, it is running.

and yes, nobody cares if your PC cant run AoC DX10 at a descent framerate.

wanna run it? upgrade ! 

cant upgrade? your own problem :)

Originally posted by solareus

Here is the difference, I'm not a test, no one on live is, they are paying subscribers.  Pay to test is a bad module in my opinion.

then simply dont test it !

keep using DX9 it still looks WAAY cooler than LoTRO on DX10 !

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by solareus

Here is the difference, I'm not a test, no one on live is, they are paying subscribers.  Pay to test is a bad module in my opinion.

then simply dont test it !

keep using DX9 it still looks WAAY cooler than LoTRO on DX10 !

 

k . that is your opinion. My differs because not only does LotRO work, it works well with no impact in performance. What does AoC dx10 bring to the table ? God rays shooting through solid objects, blurry effects to distant trees which has been done in dx9 in Vangaurd, almost all of the textures are blurry, the grass and trees still spin in place when you turn the camera, and the over all performance of most pc's his cut in half. Being an arrogant asshole won't help Funcom get dx10 to perform better, but be my guest and keep being one :) .

Originally posted by solareus

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by solareus

Here is the difference, I'm not a test, no one on live is, they are paying subscribers.  Pay to test is a bad module in my opinion.

then simply dont test it !

keep using DX9 it still looks WAAY cooler than LoTRO on DX10 !

 

 

k . that is your opinion. My differs because not only does LotRO work, it works well with no impact in performance. What does AoC dx10 bring to the table ? God rays shooting through solid objects, blurry effects to distant trees which has been done in dx9 in Vangaurd, almost all of the textures are blurry, the grass and trees still spin in place when you turn the camera, and the over all performance of most pc's his cut in half. Being an arrogant asshole won't help Funcom get dx10 to perform better, but be my guest and keep being one :) .

still, if you dont wanna test it then simply dont ! nobody is forcing you.

and still even on DX9 AoC looks WAAY better than LoTRO in DX10 !

those are facts that you have to live with and which have nothing to do with my personal opinion, insulting me will not change them neither :)

sorry , projecting opinion as facts in 2009 is pretty transparent. Maybe want to step into the 21st century of forum posting and stop the insanity while you can before you discredit yourself as any shape or form a helpful part of any community.

Originally posted by solareus

sorry , projecting opinion as facts in 2009 is pretty transparent. Maybe want to step into the 21st century of forum posting and stop the insanity while you can before you discredit yourself as any shape or form a helpful part of any community.

dont need to be sorry, i can take a couple of insultes from time to time, 

anyways, i honestly and without any sarcasm think that i didnt state antything based on opinion...

can you be more specific, which of the two statements you think is my opinion? the fact that you can either test or not test or because i said AoC DX9 looks better than LoTRO DX10? 

I really do not understand why they concenrated on DX10 so much and players gagging for it when clearly we need more crucial things done.

The graphics already are good enough if not too good for a standard MMO.. Content is what we need and performance tweaks.

Not more graphics to bring more bugs and sluggish performance.

I dunno what this world is coming too... I recently signed up to Runescape for a joke.. IM enjoy it more than any MMO i played since UO.

Its more ugly than ugly yet its fun and addictive!

FC need to go back to drawing board and concentrate on conteont and gameplay

Just remember it is in testing and the message on the login screen clearly states they are allowing access to the live community so they can gather more information on cards etc.  So lets wait for them to 'officially' launch it then bitch about performance

Originally posted by Naranar

Originally posted by dougmysticey

Also note that it says DX10 TEST. This is a precurser to the formal client launch.

 

This is great!So they are putting on LIVE that need's to be tested? Yeah sure thing dude!

Yea... they put in an optional FLUFF feature that people want to see/test without putting in on the test server where 15 people play. So you, like everyone else in game who can run DX10, can now test it, give feedback and if the results aren't up to par then you can turn it off.

It makes perfect sense if you get your head out of your butt for 15 seconds and think before you post.

Originally posted by Phyluxia

Originally posted by Naranar

Originally posted by dougmysticey

Also note that it says DX10 TEST. This is a precurser to the formal client launch.

 

This is great!So they are putting on LIVE that need's to be tested? Yeah sure thing dude!

 

Yea... they put in an optional FLUFF feature that people want to see/test without putting in on the test server where 15 people play. So you, like everyone else in game who can run DX10, can now test it, give feedback and if the results aren't up to par then you can turn it off.

It makes perfect sense if you get your head out of your butt for 15 seconds and think before you post.

That's probably a bit harsher than I would have worded it but...

Most games cannot get a very large "test" population.  Thus when things go live and there are issues...

Even with Q/A (aka internal testers) you are not going to come anywhere close to the range of hardware or numbers on your live servers.  So yes obviously an optional client to test with population makes sense.

The entire thread seems more like a troll/flame fest in the making than anything else.

You want to know why?

If you are having issues with a "test client" then give feedback in the thread asking for feed back on the official forum.. and help fix the problem.

Instead of coming here to try and create a problem... what an odd concept.

btw I used to be part of a test community we had an entire 300 people active... 300 people is not enough to test things like this and that's probably pretty average and some test communities are probably much smaller.

DX10 is an option, if it kills your perforamce atm stick with DX9.

Currently it is available, but it is still in a test phase persay...this is not the final release.

If your having issues just submit your feedback (be helpful, don't complain) and then go back to 9.

Originally posted by Alexander26

DX10 is an option, if it kills your perforamce atm stick with DX9.

 

Currently it is available, but it is still in a test phase persay...this is not the final release.

If your having issues just submit your feedback (be helpful, don't complain) and then go back to 9.

8 posts and I'm sure all 8 make my top ten worlds most perfect reply's Go Go Alex ^.^

Originally posted by Aguitha

8800 GTS 512 Mo Card

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 Ghz

4 Go of RAM

Win Vista 64 Bits

 

DX 9.0,setting at high, average FPS : 90.

DX 10, setting at high, average FPS : 12.

 

I left the game at launch because i was getting 12 fps everywhere.   Came back last month and noticed the game was now running smoothly.   Today they launch their DX 10  version and altough the improvement in graphics quality is VERY noticeable, the FPS went WAYYYYYYY down.

this is odd. i have the same computer, even the vista 64 part. u didnt mention the monitor, i have a samsung 22".

dx9 i get 48, dx10 18. both tarantia, not overcrowded, moving through city.  im planning to use dx9, can u tell me how  u get 90 fps? i did all the obvious things like driver updates etc. 

oh almost forgot, i play in windowed mode but i dont think changing it can double my fps

playing this game is alot like living in an earthquake zone, at some point you'll have to accept the haters and learn to live with them. while its a good thing to have them against fc pr, flaming about an update such as this? lol . 

im running dx10 just fine and my computer sucks ass.... sorta

all you have to do to get good fps is disable grass in advanced video settings

then in dx10 test options tab, disable the grass physics. 

it brings it from 9fps to 30fps. i ran all over hyborea to see if it would drop badly and the lowest i get is 18fps in a crowded place with people casting spells and shit

oh yeah.... DX10 IS FUCKIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i drowned in the ocean last night cause i was in such awe! of the way being underwater looks now with the godrays coming through the water

Originally posted by sigamon

im running dx10 just fine and my computer sucks ass.... sorta

all you have to do to get good fps is disable grass in advanced video settings

then in dx10 test options tab, disable the grass physics. 

it brings it from 9fps to 30fps. i ran all over hyborea to see if it would drop badly and the lowest i get is 18fps in a crowded place with people casting spells and shit

oh yeah.... DX10 IS FUCKIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i drowned in the ocean last night cause i was in such awe! of the way being underwater looks now with the godrays coming through the water

ROFL, first time it went on test server with the water caustics ability available I drown too!

It is great that it is very tweakable.

all these people complaining have an 8800

thats a weak as hell dx10 card.  it does not even remotely have enough shaders to run modern dx10 games well.

i paid 130 for my ati 4850 and its shader archetecture annihilates an 8800 without even trying.

buy a new card.

I myself had to try dx10 when I got the chance.

I am truly amazed. I thought the game looked good before, but now it just needs to be seen.

My computer is about 2 years old, so I bought an ATI 4870. When I run with dx10 I need to scale back a bit on the other settings to have acceptable fps, and I hope the final client will perform better.

All in all, together with the patching this game is becoming even more than I hoped it would be at launch.

It's been mentioned earlier, but I'll say it again. If your system can't handle the extra load, stick with dx9.

The increased desperation in the flame posts is getting more noticable, and I see it as a sure sign that this game is getting better

I myself left a few months after launch, but recently returned. So to all you other players that also were left bitter and dissapointed after the botched launch. There is no shame in playing a game that used to be sub par.

Actually I consider it healthy to rather want to enjoy a good game than spew bitterness on a forum.

After seeing the screenshots I re-subscribed this weekend and much to my surprise it really looks awesome and performs very well. I am running it at 1920x1200 without any problems.

I have a BFG GTX 285 OC with a Core i7 920

 Bgf version is bad ass and I've got mine overclocked..