Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

 

I wouldn't expect a card-carrying member of the "Order of the White Border" to be anything less than suspectful and doubtful; lest you be flogged, flamed and cast out of the "Order brotherhood" for heretical thinking, even in the Age of Enlightened Discovery (you know, DF launching and doing ok) :P

 

It's reassuring to be able to count on things being predictable in the world, kinda like the sun coming up every morning and taxes every April 15.

He is not a mere "card-carrying member of the Order", he actually is the founder and high priest(ess?) of the Order.

So pay humbly your respect  where it's due. 

Fanboism aside, it was an epic thread.

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Originally posted by Ragroz

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Originally posted by popinjay 
 
It's reassuring to be able to count on things being predictable in the world, kinda like the sun coming up every morning and taxes every April 15.

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and not being able to buy this game and IF you do... NOT being able to log into it
 
 
see what I did there ? ... oh yeah that would be take a partial post and .......................

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Originally posted by Ragroz on DF forums 3/20/09 (2nd post ever): Title: "How long before this game closes down?" -

"Is it "open" yet ?"

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Yep, I did. See what I did?

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Originally posted by Cuelda

 He is not a mere "card-carrying member of the Order", he actually is the founder and high priest(ess?) of the Order.

So pay humbly your respect  where it's due. 
Fanboism aside, it was an epic thread.

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That thread made me laugh so hard, I shot milk out of my nose.

I was really curious why the moderators let it go on for 65+ pages though. Any other forum and you know that would have been stopped, around page 5, you have to admit that though. I guess they though the game was going to be vaporware too, so no harm, no foul, lol.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Cuelda

 

 He is not a mere "card-carrying member of the Order", he actually is the founder and high priest(ess?) of the Order.

So pay humbly your respect  where it's due. 
Fanboism aside, it was an epic thread.

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That thread made me laugh so hard, I shot milk out of my nose.

 

I was really curious why the moderators let it go on for 65+ pages though. Any other forum and you know that would have been stopped, around page 5, you have to admit that though. I guess they though the game was going to be vaporware too, so no harm, no foul, lol.

Do you ever actually play the game or do you just defend it all day on here? Every thread that pops you have multiple posts at all times of day. Not saying you shouldnt be here but for such a ardent defender of everything Tasos, shouldnt you actually play or do you even have an account yet?  I am voting for dont have an account but then again maybe its a better game in theory than practice since you seem to be on forums more than you are in the game you profess to fondle over.

Originally posted by phrank

Originally posted by winter

 

 Did they (AV) announce somewhere they sold 10K pre-orders before launch, or are you just assuming that?

Total fanboi conjecture to try and make the game look better then it is.
 

There has never been any formal announcement of number playing and they took down the counter a couple weeks ago so no one can see just how small the numbers really are.

I am really sure that a company that needs several 10's of thousands to just break even are really kicking and perma-banning people. If they are then that is where the new accounts are coming from.

Since it has always appeared ever since close beta that the server can only handle 10K total entities I am sure that they have probably cut back the NPC population in out of the way places so that more people can get in quicker thereby reducing the queue times.

Half ass fixes for the lose

I actually got the number from the Darkfall official forums from people who got into the game before the counting feature of the clan page ingame was removed.

There was a thread talking about the number, and it was very close to 7.5k.  That was like the 2nd or 3rd day after the servers were actually up, and I know aventurine managed to fix some of the problems with botched pre-orders (though not most), so I just approximated that the initial pre-order amount was 10k.

So yea, the number isn't concrete, to say the least, but it is my best estimation.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Cuelda

 

 He is not a mere "card-carrying member of the Order", he actually is the founder and high priest(ess?) of the Order.

So pay humbly your respect  where it's due. 
Fanboism aside, it was an epic thread.

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That thread made me laugh so hard, I shot milk out of my nose.

 

I was really curious why the moderators let it go on for 65+ pages though. Any other forum and you know that would have been stopped, around page 5, you have to admit that though. I guess they though the game was going to be vaporware too, so no harm, no foul, lol.

 

Do you ever actually play the game or do you just defend it all day on here? Every thread that pops you have multiple posts at all times of day. Not saying you shouldnt be here but for such a ardent defender of everything Tasos, shouldnt you actually play or do you even have an account yet?  I am voting for dont have an account but then again maybe its a better game in theory than practice since you seem to be on forums more than you are in the game you profess to fondle over.

He also has time to bash every WAR thread. Go figure.

popin's omnipresence aside, I still don't believe much of what Tasos says. Things that he can prove, like no more queues, fine.

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Originally posted by parrotpholk

 
Do you ever actually play the game or do you just defend it all day on here? Every thread that pops you have multiple posts at all times of day. Not saying you shouldnt be here but for such a ardent defender of everything Tasos, shouldnt you actually play or do you even have an account yet?  I am voting for dont have an account but then again maybe its a better game in theory than practice since you seem to be on forums more than you are in the game you profess to fondle over.

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1. I do not play the game. I have not applied for an account. I am not registered at the Darkfall forum website. I have not been following the game for years.

2. I'm at a place now where things are slow and have been all day, so I have time while employees do other things. Hence, the "different times" of the day.

3. Again, no I don't have an account so I can't play. I do not defend Tasos personally as I do not know him or believed in anything a CEO anywhere says. You don't have to "vote"; I've said many times I do not have an account, if you've followed my posts as you say you have, you'd have known that by now.

4. I have not professed a "fondling" over. I have not said this is the greatest game ever. I would not even consider playing DF unless they had a NA server. After Vanguard and Warhammer, I play no games immediately on launch nor do I preorder anymore. I hope that fills your curiousity, but enough about me...

I don't have to guess about you, though... you're pretty transparent. Since we are watching each other's posting habits:

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Originally posted by parrotpholk: "DF interview with WomenGamers.com" - 8/27/06 Darkfall » General Discussion:

The only thing I hope is in 5 more years when this game is still in development people will then admit its never gonna happen"

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Originally posted by parrotpholk: "Darkfall Peek #31 - Fighting in Darkfall" - 10/03/06 Darkfall » General Discussion

I laugh at you all who think this game is coming out. Keep on keeping the faith.

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You are a Darkfall hater troll for over two years. You predicted over/over/over it would never launch. It did. You predicted over/over/over it would fail. It hasn't. You have been nothing but fail so far for two years.

Since 2/25/09, you have made around 105 posts regarding Darkfall in their forums, ALL negative. You clearly have an axe to grind, but you've worn down your axe to the handle already. Apparently, this game failing means an awful lot to you for some reason. At this point I don't think anyone can ever guess what Tasos or Aventurine did to you personally, but it must have been epic. You have no interest in playing this game, yet you spend an average of four posts a day on the Darkfall forums... ALL negative. You say nothing good about any game ever since Vanguard went bust. I know dude, I liked Vanguard as well and I was there at launch, but you gotta move on. At least TRY the game once before spewing so much vitriol, that's all.

There is absolutely no reason to fear if you try it and like it. No one will make fun of you so go ahead, you might have fun. But if you are going to be a troll, be a troll. Don't pretend as if you are really presenting facts and everyone playing the game and liking it is somehow brain deficient.

I've been honest in my defense of Darkfall. I'd actually, unlike you, like to see a small company make it agsinst the bigger, bloat budget companies that disappoint so often and so recently, especially in this economy. It would be a great thing for others trying to break in but can't due to the same old failures getting the checks and backing because of connections. The game is also providing some PVP fans with a form of pvp I think should be the standard: PvP with actual consequences other than die-respawn-die-respawn-die-respawn.

But you just go right on with your crusade praying for a failure. I guess we all have to have some kind of hobby and ambition.

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Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

He also has time to bash every WAR thread. Go figure.
popin's omnipresence aside, I still don't believe much of what Tasos says. Things that he can prove, like no more queues, fine.

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Well, unlike the people here and YOU on bashing Darkfall for sport, I actually PLAYED Warhammer, lol.

So I and the other 500k subscribers who played it and took off know what I'm talking about if I say the game was boring. Or crashy. Or unbalanced. Or loot bags don't work right. Or the cast lag has been in the game since alpha beta. Or Mark Jacobs said if they aren't adding servers six months out, that they aren't successful. Or the servers are merging. Or .. well you get the point ( I don't want to be here ALL day). I have been critical of Warhammer, but with reason and with first hand knowledge or widely industry wide issues.

I still follow Warhammer because I might come back and try it again IF they ever fix.. something. Don't try to equate that with this.

I have also NEVER told anyone "Do Not Play Warhammer". To the contrary, I have many times told people asking "Go check it out for yourself". Unlike you and some of the others here, I believe everyone should TRY games before trying to torpedoe them. But you just go right ahead thinking I bash Warhammer. And when you trip across the posts I made SUPPORTING it, make sure you put those in there too, ok? Every thread? Not even close.

Now, how much time have YOU spent in this forum, Mr. Pot?

Popinjay you dirty dog. Your posts always provide the best entertainment.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

 

He also has time to bash every WAR thread. Go figure.
popin's omnipresence aside, I still don't believe much of what Tasos says. Things that he can prove, like no more queues, fine.

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Well, unlike the people here and YOU on bashing Darkfall for sport, I actually PLAYED Warhammer, lol.

 

So I and the other 500k subscribers who played it and took off know what I'm talking about if I say the game was boring. Or crashy. Or unbalanced. Or loot bags don't work right. Or the cast lag has been in the game since alpha beta. Or Mark Jacobs said if they aren't adding servers six months out, that they aren't successful. Or the servers are merging. Or .. well you get the point ( I don't want to be here ALL day). I have been critical of Warhammer, but with reason and with first hand knowledge or widely industry wide issues.

 

I still follow Warhammer because I might come back and try it again IF they ever fix.. something. Don't try to equate that with this.

 

I have also NEVER told anyone "Do Not Play Warhammer". To the contrary, I have many times told people asking "Go check it out for yourself". Unlike you and some of the others here, I believe everyone should TRY games before trying to torpedoe them. But you just go right ahead thinking I bash Warhammer. And when you trip across the posts I made SUPPORTING it, make sure you put those in there too, ok? Every thread? Not even close.

 

Now, how much time have YOU spent in this forum, Mr. Pot?

 

 

Agreed.
 

It brings me great joy to see Darkfall failing at every turn.  Its what Tasos gets for being a cocky bull%^$^ artist.

Originally posted by popinjay

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We have been permanently banning all accounts that we detect are using 3d party software exploits. Still, there are a few people who don’t understand this and continue installing and using these exploits. You will definitely be banned if you do this. No appeals and no excuses are accepted.

 

 

Macroing: We are working to address it at its source, but until then we need to enforce our policies. Before we do that we will appeal to players not actually playing the game to log off rather than leaving their character in-game. This will allow more people to be able to enjoy Darkfall instead of unmanned characters taking up server space. If you’re skilling up by not playing the game as it was intended, you will be kicked and repeated offenses will result in a ban."

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This is the single most encouraging thing I've seen from any company in the last few years.

try jagex

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

 

 

 

"Prick?" And people say those Darkfall fanbois are crude, uncouth and rabid, lol. I'm sure everyone believes you (A) beta'd and that (B) 50 people anywhere on this planet would follow you in a straight line to any destination and listen to you based on your above reply.

 

 

 

I certainly don't mean to infringe on your 'God given right' to troll. Please, go right ahead and continue to debase yourself. As Sheriff Bart would say:

 

"Baby, please. You're making a German spectacle of yourself."

 

I rarly ring in anymore, heck I was one that NEVER thought this game was going to launch but be total vaporware. While I personally believe what the devs say is utterly total bullshit, that is again my opinion. However still reading the forums here for the vast entertainment it alone brings me I have to say Popinjay is by far the best poster I have seen. Eh not because he defends or offends anything, it is just the  fact he backs up what he says.

I have been against Darkfall for many reasons in the past, heck just look at my history , but actually I am glad to hear they launched. Maybe there will be something here after all, I have been proven wrong and can openly admit this. So I am one who called vaporware for years and now I am proven wrong and have no problem admiting it. However still skeptical, I will wait a few months to see what happens with the community to make sure this is not another DnL or others that followed the same path.

To Popinjay,

No matter what is said about you man, I have to admit, you keep it real and that is something to be admired. More people should be more real and maybe the net would be a better place to visit.

salu!

Haha..Popinjay is owning this argument.  You can tell people have lost a debate when they resort to personal attacks and name-callings instead of making a response at the subject.  Popinjay's enemies are doing just that.

Please debate the points and leave the personal comments elsewhere.  Thanks!

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Originally posted by chaintm

 I rarly ring in anymore, heck I was one that NEVER thought this game was going to launch but be total vaporware. While I personally believe what the devs say is utterly total bullshit, that is again my opinion. However still reading the forums here for the vast entertainment it alone brings me I have to say Popinjay is by far the best poster I have seen. Eh not because he defends or offends anything, it is just the  fact he backs up what he says.
I have been against Darkfall for many reasons in the past, heck just look at my history , but actually I am glad to hear they launched. Maybe there will be something here after all, I have been proven wrong and can openly admit this. So I am one who called vaporware for years and now I am proven wrong and have no problem admiting it. However still skeptical, I will wait a few months to see what happens with the community to make sure this is not another DnL or others that followed the same path.
To Popinjay,
No matter what is said about you man, I have to admit, you keep it real and that is something to be admired. More people should be more real and maybe the net would be a better place to visit.
salu!

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I started reading up on this last year and everything I saw pointed to it not launching. To build a FFA open RvR PvP loot game (lotta letters there) didn't seem possible or that anyone would actually buy it when done other than the fans who followed it for years. Most PvP games I had played since Diablo had no consequences and people liked that just fine. Dying and respawning was the status quo for most of them. I really made it boring for me to see that but if people are paying for it, who am I to argue?

When this game finally launched, it looked like three pissed off alleycats inside a burlap bag. It was all over the place. I really couldn't see how they were actually going to sell any games because.. they weren't actually SELLING any games. People couldn't get in there and play it, lol. Then they worked out some of that and then it only looked like two moderately peeved cats in a cotton bag.

Now, the game has gotten PLENTY of reviews from bloggers and PvPers, the people who play these games most. And after some initial refamiliarization it seems, the vast overwhelming majority (looking around on differing sites) seem to be pretty happy with the overall play. While its generally agreed this game is crude in a lot of its "polish", the underlying skeleton is there: Open FFA PvP RvR play. That's all pretty much a pvper looking for can ask to be correct with their game. Crafting, PvE, Tome titles, shiny gear, mount actions, fancy emotes... that stuff is usually reserved for the people who like that watered-down PvP without consequences usually.

The core of the Aventurine base wants little of that, or cares about it. This game was always niche, from inception so the "omgz.. you won't ever get 500k subz lulz" is immaterial. DF would like it, but don't really care. They just want to pay bills first and foremost, then see if they can expand into the Top 10 of MMOs wayyyy down the line. I think now that the game is up and running, these haters should at least try it out in it's current state before intentionally trying to sink it. DF is proving to be fixing itself up as it goes along, so I don't understand the venom now. Again, as a small company I would like them to succeed against the odds; that only means more money for other small developers. Companies like Mythic and Blizzard weren't always big, they had to start somewhere with a good idea.

So yeah, I support this type of product making it, even though I am normally a PvE guy first, PvP second. Negative nancies want it to fail because somehow, it validates a wrong done to them (?) or just so they can say "You remember me.. I was the guy who predicted DF would fail TWO years ago before anyone, so I know what I'm talking about." Pffft.. Just go away. Don't go away angry, just go away. Stop making new accounts each time you get banned on EVERY site, just to try it again. You will always be flushed out by the greenish tint to your post.

Oh, thx for the compliment but the best posters I have seen on this site so far are Pheace and Paragus. Usually those two have WAY more factual data and proof than I do, and are able to remain much calmer, lol. Usually they get hated because they bring out actual facts mixed in with their opinion.

I respect you for your honesty about wanting the game to fail earlier. That is no sin as you aren't trolling around TRYING to make it fail. I want the Yankees to fail each and every year, but I don't go to Yankee sites with fake accounts saying "Red Sox rule" or trying to spike their Gatorade somehow.

Originally posted by popinjay

 or trying to spike their Gatorade somehow.

 

 

 

Awesome idea, kthx man!

Actions speak louder than words Tasos. He's been saying that since the issue they created came up.

The lip service is fine, let's see the hacking and exploits taken care of then. The whole macroing issue is there because the game systems are so poorly designed. People wouldn't macro if it wasn't mind-numbingly boring and time consuming to craft or skill up.

Too little to late anyway IMO. Once you have a horrendous launch and the game is commonly known to be a hacker / 'sploiter's haven, the damage is done.

As usual these days, the game was released way to early, and it's paying the price.

The NSA should just make it illegal for anybody who ordered Dark Fall to play any other internet games for the rest of their life, as punishment for being a moron.

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Originally posted by Xaaa
The NSA should just make it illegal for anybody who ordered Dark Fall to play any other internet games for the rest of their life, as punishment for being a moron.

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Originally posted by Xaaa:

I can't wait to tell all the yuppie punk kids who pre-ordered this game "I told you so" when the launch period comes and goes with no success. That is, if the forums even remain up and this isn't all one big fly-by-night operation.

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Or, they should simply make them read their own incorrect "I told you so" posts over and over. That probably would be more torturous, because everyone already knew they were a moron in the first place.

You have been consisently wrong about your Darkfall predictions and I see no reason to believe you over Tasos. In fact, about the larger issue, you have been extremely wrong. You claimed it would never launch and fail once it did.

One more strike, and you're out.

Macroing: We are working to address it at its source, but until then we need to enforce our policies. Before we do that we will appeal to players not actually playing the game to log off rather than leaving their character in-game. This will allow more people to be able to enjoy Darkfall instead of unmanned characters taking up server space. If you’re skilling up by not playing the game as it was intended, you will be kicked and repeated offenses will result in a ban.

So are they fixing WHY people macro (AKA the game is boring) or are they just banning people that macro?

 

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Originally posted by Benthon

So are they fixing WHY people macro (AKA the game is boring) or are they just banning people that macro?

 

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"People macro because the game is boring." Because yep... macroing is fun!

/facepalm X 2

If you have a macro running, and your game is unattended they will ban you in the future.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

"People macro because the game is boring." Because yep... macroing is fun!

 

/facepalm X 2

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a macro running, and your game is unattended they will ban you in the future.

 

Thnx for the response before...

It's simple really, people macro to get an advantage it is as plain as that, I don't care what a person comes up with to say " I macro not to get an advantage but too... (Fill in the blank)".. in the end they macro to get ahead of others that don't. Still, they definitly need to resolve this quickly.  As a PVP foundation of a game, that is just asking for trouble. If any game ANY that comes out is based on the concepts of PVP you really need to have your code locked down before release. Look at any FPS out there, not counting a single MMO and you will see how many go out of their way to cheat. Let's face it , it's the internet, it's a game and if they can get away with it they will. Who are they? those that play to win no matter the cost, skill or not they just get off on other people's woes. Sadly that is in our nature, have more then the next and do better then the next. The gaming scene just makes that allot easier, in the Real World, If you cheated say at poker for cash, we would just take you in the back alley and beat the living crap out of you. The only retalliation for online behaviour is to ban the offender and even that is not a 100% thing.

Originally posted by chaintm

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

"People macro because the game is boring." Because yep... macroing is fun!

 

/facepalm X 2

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a macro running, and your game is unattended they will ban you in the future.

 

 

Thnx for the response before...

 

It's simple really, people macro to get an advantage it is as plain as that, I don't care what a person comes up with to say " I macro not to get an advantage but too... (Fill in the blank)".. in the end they macro to get ahead of others that don't. Still, they definitly need to resolve this quickly.  As a PVP foundation of a game, that is just asking for trouble. If any game ANY that comes out is based on the concepts of PVP you really need to have your code locked down before release. Look at any FPS out there, not counting a single MMO and you will see how many go out of their way to cheat. Let's face it , it's the internet, it's a game and if they can get away with it they will. Who are they? those that play to win no matter the cost, skill or not they just get off on other people's woes. Sadly that is in our nature, have more then the next and do better then the next. The gaming scene just makes that allot easier, in the Real World, If you cheated say at poker for cash, we would just take you in the back alley and beat the living crap out of you. The only retalliation for online behaviour is to ban the offender and even that is not a 100% thing.

 

 

Sadly, you are correct. 

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

 

He also has time to bash every WAR thread. Go figure.
popin's omnipresence aside, I still don't believe much of what Tasos says. Things that he can prove, like no more queues, fine.

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Well, unlike the people here and YOU on bashing Darkfall for sport, I actually PLAYED Warhammer, lol.

 

So I and the other 500k subscribers who played it and took off know what I'm talking about if I say the game was boring. Or crashy. Or unbalanced. Or loot bags don't work right. Or the cast lag has been in the game since alpha beta. Or Mark Jacobs said if they aren't adding servers six months out, that they aren't successful. Or the servers are merging. Or .. well you get the point ( I don't want to be here ALL day). I have been critical of Warhammer, but with reason and with first hand knowledge or widely industry wide issues.

 

I still follow Warhammer because I might come back and try it again IF they ever fix.. something. Don't try to equate that with this.

 

I have also NEVER told anyone "Do Not Play Warhammer". To the contrary, I have many times told people asking "Go check it out for yourself". Unlike you and some of the others here, I believe everyone should TRY games before trying to torpedoe them. But you just go right ahead thinking I bash Warhammer. And when you trip across the posts I made SUPPORTING it, make sure you put those in there too, ok? Every thread? Not even close.

 

Now, how much time have YOU spent in this forum, Mr. Pot?

 

 

I am not a popinjay enemy or anything like that, but let's be real here, if you think WAR was bugged/unblanced/boring/crashy...
 

Do I need to finish that? I have not played DF but I played WAR at launch. Somehow I played every day, had tons of fun, and yeah you are right, after awhile I got bored and quit. But let's not compare a "loot bag not working right" to the failure that is DF launch. They don't have a NA server, no one else can get into the game right now really, and there are many more bugs and exploits in the game than WAR.

Apparently you expected too much from WAR and was let down and expected nothing from DF and have been surprised but be realistic.